• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EST 05:17
CET 11:17
KST 19:17
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
TL.net Map Contest #21: Winners5Intel X Team Liquid Seoul event: Showmatches and Meet the Pros10[ASL20] Finals Preview: Arrival13TL.net Map Contest #21: Voting12[ASL20] Ro4 Preview: Descent11
Community News
Starcraft, SC2, HoTS, WC3, returning to Blizzcon!28$5,000+ WardiTV 2025 Championship5[BSL21] RO32 Group Stage4Weekly Cups (Oct 26-Nov 2): Liquid, Clem, Solar win; LAN in Philly2Weekly Cups (Oct 20-26): MaxPax, Clem, Creator win9
StarCraft 2
General
5.0.15 Patch Balance Hotfix (2025-10-8) Starcraft, SC2, HoTS, WC3, returning to Blizzcon! TL.net Map Contest #21: Winners RotterdaM "Serral is the GOAT, and it's not close" Weekly Cups (Oct 20-26): MaxPax, Clem, Creator win
Tourneys
- nuked - Constellation Cup - Main Event - Stellar Fest $5,000+ WardiTV 2025 Championship Merivale 8 Open - LAN - Stellar Fest Sea Duckling Open (Global, Bronze-Diamond)
Strategy
Custom Maps
Map Editor closed ?
External Content
Mutation # 498 Wheel of Misfortune|Cradle of Death Mutation # 497 Battle Haredened Mutation # 496 Endless Infection Mutation # 495 Rest In Peace
Brood War
General
BW General Discussion [ASL20] Ask the mapmakers — Drop your questions [BSL21] RO32 Group Stage BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ SnOw's ASL S20 Finals Review
Tourneys
[Megathread] Daily Proleagues [BSL21] RO32 Group B - Sunday 21:00 CET [BSL21] RO32 Group A - Saturday 21:00 CET BSL21 Open Qualifiers Week & CONFIRM PARTICIPATION
Strategy
PvZ map balance Current Meta How to stay on top of macro? Soma's 9 hatch build from ASL Game 2
Other Games
General Games
Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Dawn of War IV Nintendo Switch Thread ZeroSpace Megathread General RTS Discussion Thread
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread SPIRED by.ASL Mafia {211640}
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine YouTube Thread Dating: How's your luck?
Fan Clubs
White-Ra Fan Club The herO Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
Anime Discussion Thread Movie Discussion! [Manga] One Piece Korean Music Discussion Series you have seen recently...
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread NBA General Discussion MLB/Baseball 2023 TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023 Formula 1 Discussion
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
SC2 Client Relocalization [Change SC2 Language] Linksys AE2500 USB WIFI keeps disconnecting Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
The Automated Ban List Recent Gifted Posts
Blogs
Coffee x Performance in Espo…
TrAiDoS
Saturation point
Uldridge
DnB/metal remix FFO Mick Go…
ImbaTosS
Why we need SC3
Hildegard
Reality "theory" prov…
perfectspheres
Our Last Hope in th…
KrillinFromwales
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 1609 users

[P]Iccup slumps

Blogs > YPang
Post a Reply
Normal
YPang
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
United States4024 Posts
July 24 2009 04:01 GMT
#1
Hmm. I've been wondering what would be the ideal solution to face iccup slumps.

Some say that the player should just continue playing at his rank even though he's losing a lot. Lets say that a C player was at 4900, then suddenly dropped to 4100. Some people would say to keep going at it and try to get C+ this way. Its closer to 5000, and it'll take less games.

others believe that its better just to just reset, and clear the old leaf up, and its obvious that the dude's mindset about playing these C players at the moment is bad and lack confidence, so maybe after some noob raping at D/D+/C- he'd be more confident and play better. (NOTE: I do realize that iccup gets easier as time goes, but if the guy coulda gotten 4900 early, then getting it again shoudl be twice as easy if he's fresh.)

[image loading]

Poll: Reset or keep going?
(Vote): Keep going you quitting scum
(Vote): Wtf you thinking nerd reset!



*
sMi.Gladstone | BW: B high| SC2: gold T_T
clazziquai
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
6685 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-07-24 04:02:56
July 24 2009 04:02 GMT
#2
I slumped last week, losing like 18 games out of 20. It was frustrating, but I took a break for two-three days, and then I was able to come back.

So keep going, but make sure you take a break!
#1 Sea.Really Fan / #1 Nesh Fan / Terran Forever~
konadora *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Singapore66357 Posts
July 24 2009 04:07 GMT
#3
Only reset if you drop two ranks (now that's slumping)

Like me :<
POGGERS
ZZangDreamjOy
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
Canada959 Posts
July 24 2009 04:08 GMT
#4
If your "slumping", just log off iccup or play some friendly games. Get back into the swing of things, then get back to it. I had a mean slump last season, going from 8100 B+ (first time ever), to 6200 B-. I didn't play for a week after that. -_-
HitEmUp
KingofHearts
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Japan562 Posts
July 24 2009 04:08 GMT
#5
you need to learn the power of nothingness. stats are nothing. losing is nothing. winning is nothing. c ranks are nothing. only after you master the power of nothingness then you will achieve higher ranks. higher ranks is nothing.
moshi moshi~
GoShox
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States1842 Posts
July 24 2009 04:09 GMT
#6
Gladstone you only made this blog cause I did!

Anyways I'd be interested in answers as well.. I've lost like 17 of my last 20 and it seems like I'm not playing well at all either..
Athos
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States2484 Posts
July 24 2009 04:12 GMT
#7
I'm 20-47 right now.



You better not reset your stats T_T
gumbum8
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States721 Posts
July 24 2009 04:12 GMT
#8
On July 24 2009 13:08 KingofHearts wrote:
you need to learn the power of nothingness. stats are nothing. losing is nothing. winning is nothing. c ranks are nothing. only after you master the power of nothingness then you will achieve higher ranks. higher ranks is nothing.

exactly. It doesn't make any difference what your ladder stats are, they just make matchmaking fair. Don't cheat the system. You'll get to C+ when you get to C+.
but really, has anyone REALLY been far even as decided to use even go want to do look more like?
YPang
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
United States4024 Posts
July 24 2009 04:13 GMT
#9
On July 24 2009 13:08 ZZangDreamjOy wrote:
If your "slumping", just log off iccup or play some friendly games. Get back into the swing of things, then get back to it. I had a mean slump last season, going from 8100 B+ (first time ever), to 6200 B-. I didn't play for a week after that. -_-


lol maybe this is why i shouldn't be a poker player, becuase i always have the mindset of, "man i can't stop now i gotta get back to where i was ealier"
sMi.Gladstone | BW: B high| SC2: gold T_T
FragKrag
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States11552 Posts
July 24 2009 04:20 GMT
#10
keep going, you quitting scum!
*TL CJ Entusman #40* "like scissors does anything to paper except MAKE IT MORE NUMEROUS" -paper
ThisIsJimmy
Profile Joined July 2004
United States546 Posts
July 24 2009 04:21 GMT
#11
I wouldn't reset. You will just slow your progress. Gonna learn more when you lose then when you win... that's how I look at it. I always feel like if I can lose 20 in a row, then I can win the next 20 in a row based on what I learned .
Twitter @_ThisIsJimmy_
Dr.Dragoon
Profile Joined November 2007
United States1241 Posts
July 24 2009 04:22 GMT
#12
On July 24 2009 13:02 clazziquai wrote:
I slumped last week, losing like 18 games out of 20. It was frustrating, but I took a break for two-three days, and then I was able to come back.

So keep going, but make sure you take a break!

And then you became a 43-16 B-
~o~ I have returned
Licmyobelisk
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Philippines3682 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-07-24 04:24:36
July 24 2009 04:24 GMT
#13
Play another account for the meantime then once you've already "felt" that you're slump is gone that's the time you get back to you're main account.

Works well for me!

Edit: Suggest not to reset.
I don't think I've ever wished my opponent good luck prior to a game. When I play, I play to win. I hope every opponent I ever have is cursed with fucking terrible luck. I hope they're stuck playing underneath a stepladder with a black cat in attendance a
YPang
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
United States4024 Posts
July 24 2009 04:24 GMT
#14
On July 24 2009 13:21 Silent`Assassin wrote:
I wouldn't reset. You will just slow your progress. Gonna learn more when you lose then when you win... that's how I look at it. I always feel like if I can lose 20 in a row, then I can win the next 20 in a row based on what I learned .


Like the losses are so insignificant, its like oops forgot to make a bunker, or oops bad attack, or oops late turrets all stupid shit that you cant learn from.
sMi.Gladstone | BW: B high| SC2: gold T_T
dekuschrub
Profile Joined May 2008
United States2069 Posts
July 24 2009 04:31 GMT
#15
im slumping really hard right now. Today I lost to basically mass ling from every base on blue storm. The guy laughed at me and was like "are you really d+?"

i didnt have to heart to tell him i chill around C-...
Failsafe
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States1298 Posts
July 24 2009 04:33 GMT
#16
there's no reason to reset ever
MrBitter: Phoenixes... They're like flying hellions. Always cost efficient.
Dfgj
Profile Joined May 2008
Singapore5922 Posts
July 24 2009 04:34 GMT
#17
On July 24 2009 13:24 Licmyobelisk wrote:
Play another account for the meantime then once you've already "felt" that you're slump is gone that's the time you get back to you're main account.

Works well for me!

Edit: Suggest not to reset.

I agree with this. If your goal is to gain ranks, then you might as well keep the points you have and work off frustration playing on another acc than resetting.

FirstBorn
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
Romania3955 Posts
July 24 2009 04:37 GMT
#18
You could just take a 2-3 day break and come back, it usually fixes my "slumps". Or you could just make another account and play a few games at D/D+ level and then come back.
SonuvBob: Yes, the majority of TL is college-aged, and thus clearly stupid.
Yaqoob
Profile Blog Joined March 2005
Canada3337 Posts
July 24 2009 04:48 GMT
#19
Gladstone, don't pull a Yaqoob and reset
김택용 Fighting!
AttackZerg
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States7465 Posts
July 24 2009 04:53 GMT
#20
Create a new account and play 3 or 4 games. Then go back to your C level games. This way you don't quit but also get the feeling of stress free fun games.

Remember I hit b- early on and haven't played a game of broodwar until yesterday and then I started on a d account. I think confidence is more important then skill for ladder climbing and stablity.
Schismotive
Profile Joined March 2009
United States60 Posts
July 24 2009 04:57 GMT
#21
I think resetting is a bad choice. I'm a D level player, and I hate it when better players come to lower levels to get easy wins.

I remember one time when I played this guy who's account was at D. He beat me really easily, which was extremely frustrating, and the next day I looked at his stats. The guy was like 22-1. That really pissed me off, and to be honest, its happened to me several times now.
Doing to blue what blue does to you.
ReCharge
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Philippines505 Posts
July 24 2009 05:10 GMT
#22
I was C-, then dropped to D- You think I should reset? of course. And so should you.
David Kim for Bonjwa!
infinity21 *
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
Canada6683 Posts
July 24 2009 05:19 GMT
#23
On July 24 2009 13:57 Schismotive wrote:
I think resetting is a bad choice. I'm a D level player, and I hate it when better players come to lower levels to get easy wins.

I remember one time when I played this guy who's account was at D. He beat me really easily, which was extremely frustrating, and the next day I looked at his stats. The guy was like 22-1. That really pissed me off, and to be honest, its happened to me several times now.

Half the people will have a higher skill level than their current rank. You just have to live with it.
Official Entusman #21
LxRogue
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
United States1415 Posts
July 24 2009 05:29 GMT
#24
Sometimes, it can be good to just stop for the night and cut your losses. If you're playing bad, just give yourself some time to start fresh.
madnessman
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States1581 Posts
July 24 2009 05:40 GMT
#25
my worst slump was 11 loses in a row over 2 days. I don't really remember but I don't think that I reset. Do as everybody else says and take a break for a while.
rredtooth
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
5461 Posts
July 24 2009 05:53 GMT
#26
resetting is free.
just do it and get your mechanics together while laddering back up.
[formerly sponsored by the artist formerly known as Gene]
Toxic
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
Canada233 Posts
July 24 2009 05:57 GMT
#27
On July 24 2009 13:22 Dr.Dragoon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 24 2009 13:02 clazziquai wrote:
I slumped last week, losing like 18 games out of 20. It was frustrating, but I took a break for two-three days, and then I was able to come back.

So keep going, but make sure you take a break!

And then you became a 43-16 B-


I second that, Mr. Iamnotgosuthosearenotmystats. No one believes you!
Yes.
Meatpost[aov]
Profile Joined July 2009
United States62 Posts
July 24 2009 06:20 GMT
#28
Pftttttt i went from 55-23 B- 6060 to 80-55 B- 6305


Keep going dont reset
B- Zerg
Licmyobelisk
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Philippines3682 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-07-24 06:40:27
July 24 2009 06:39 GMT
#29
On July 24 2009 14:10 ReCharge wrote:
I was C-, then dropped to D- You think I should reset? of course. And so should you.



Don't worry charge, you're already gosu... no need to think of getting a higher rank. Stop thinking of the loses as well. LOL

Edit: Btw, do you guys still consider this a very early season or it's mid season? seems to me the guys that have high skill level has their right rank now.
I don't think I've ever wished my opponent good luck prior to a game. When I play, I play to win. I hope every opponent I ever have is cursed with fucking terrible luck. I hope they're stuck playing underneath a stepladder with a black cat in attendance a
selboN
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United States2523 Posts
July 24 2009 06:44 GMT
#30
Rage and uninstall Starcraft. Then the next day when you come to your senses and get everything reinstalled you will be able to get out of your slump! ^_^
"That's what happens when you're using a mouse made out of glass!" -Tasteless (Referring to ZergBong)
Dfgj
Profile Joined May 2008
Singapore5922 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-07-24 06:44:55
July 24 2009 06:44 GMT
#31
On July 24 2009 13:57 Schismotive wrote:
I remember one time when I played this guy who's account was at D. He beat me really easily, which was extremely frustrating, and the next day I looked at his stats. The guy was like 22-1. That really pissed me off, and to be honest, its happened to me several times now.

During Korean hours, practically half the D ranks I run into are much higher. I was on a 9-loss streak at D+ level that had me really demoralized until I checked and found all of them were between C and A-. Not much you can do but use those games as practice :p
Licmyobelisk
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Philippines3682 Posts
July 24 2009 06:46 GMT
#32
On July 24 2009 15:44 Dfgj wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 24 2009 13:57 Schismotive wrote:
I remember one time when I played this guy who's account was at D. He beat me really easily, which was extremely frustrating, and the next day I looked at his stats. The guy was like 22-1. That really pissed me off, and to be honest, its happened to me several times now.

During Korean hours, practically half the D ranks I run into are much higher. I was on a 9-loss streak at D+ level that had me really demoralized until I checked and found all of them were between C and A-. Not much you can do but use those games as practice :p



We're almost in the same time slot with the koreans that's why practice is so hardcore. I'm still not getting the feel with their Late Mutas as of the moment..
I don't think I've ever wished my opponent good luck prior to a game. When I play, I play to win. I hope every opponent I ever have is cursed with fucking terrible luck. I hope they're stuck playing underneath a stepladder with a black cat in attendance a
Mastermind
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Canada7096 Posts
July 24 2009 07:47 GMT
#33
On July 24 2009 13:33 Failsafe wrote:
there's no reason to reset ever

this is the truth.
ImNotBisu
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada142 Posts
July 24 2009 20:42 GMT
#34
I dropped from lvl 13 to lvl 11 in a day on VS... X_X

Lost like almost 2k exp:O
ghostWriter
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States3302 Posts
July 24 2009 21:03 GMT
#35
On July 24 2009 15:44 Dfgj wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 24 2009 13:57 Schismotive wrote:
I remember one time when I played this guy who's account was at D. He beat me really easily, which was extremely frustrating, and the next day I looked at his stats. The guy was like 22-1. That really pissed me off, and to be honest, its happened to me several times now.

During Korean hours, practically half the D ranks I run into are much higher. I was on a 9-loss streak at D+ level that had me really demoralized until I checked and found all of them were between C and A-. Not much you can do but use those games as practice :p


Well duh, what do you expect?
High ranks don't come out of nowhere, they have to rank up just like the rest of us. They just happen to end up in a higher rank.
Sullifam
Dfgj
Profile Joined May 2008
Singapore5922 Posts
July 24 2009 21:55 GMT
#36
On July 25 2009 06:03 ghostWriter wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 24 2009 15:44 Dfgj wrote:
On July 24 2009 13:57 Schismotive wrote:
I remember one time when I played this guy who's account was at D. He beat me really easily, which was extremely frustrating, and the next day I looked at his stats. The guy was like 22-1. That really pissed me off, and to be honest, its happened to me several times now.

During Korean hours, practically half the D ranks I run into are much higher. I was on a 9-loss streak at D+ level that had me really demoralized until I checked and found all of them were between C and A-. Not much you can do but use those games as practice :p


Well duh, what do you expect?
High ranks don't come out of nowhere, they have to rank up just like the rest of us. They just happen to end up in a higher rank.

I was just noting how it seems far more common when I play during Korean hours.
Normal
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 1h 43m
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
Nina 158
StarCraft: Brood War
Calm 8124
Jaedong 674
TY 388
BeSt 335
Soma 258
Stork 204
Light 171
PianO 160
Leta 155
JYJ150
[ Show more ]
Pusan 127
Aegong 101
soO 73
sSak 71
Mini 58
Rush 53
Sharp 52
EffOrt 47
Backho 36
sorry 31
yabsab 25
Larva 20
NotJumperer 15
Bale 13
Noble 10
Terrorterran 5
HiyA 5
Dota 2
Gorgc5261
KheZu206
XcaliburYe182
League of Legends
JimRising 424
Reynor173
Counter-Strike
fl0m1490
taco 82
zeus22
Other Games
summit1g15584
singsing1061
ceh9434
Happy167
crisheroes151
Sick97
XaKoH 76
NeuroSwarm53
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick504
Counter-Strike
PGL169
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 14 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• LUISG 30
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• iopq 2
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
League of Legends
• Jankos3764
• Stunt621
Upcoming Events
OSC
1h 43m
LAN Event
4h 43m
Lambo vs Harstem
FuturE vs Maplez
Scarlett vs FoxeR
Gerald vs Mixu
Zoun vs TBD
Clem vs TBD
ByuN vs TBD
TriGGeR vs TBD
Korean StarCraft League
16h 43m
CranKy Ducklings
23h 43m
LAN Event
1d 4h
IPSL
1d 7h
dxtr13 vs OldBoy
Napoleon vs Doodle
BSL 21
1d 9h
Gosudark vs Kyrie
Gypsy vs Sterling
UltrA vs Radley
Dandy vs Ptak
Replay Cast
1d 12h
Sparkling Tuna Cup
1d 23h
WardiTV Korean Royale
2 days
[ Show More ]
LAN Event
2 days
IPSL
2 days
JDConan vs WIZARD
WolFix vs Cross
BSL 21
2 days
spx vs rasowy
HBO vs KameZerg
Cross vs Razz
dxtr13 vs ZZZero
Replay Cast
2 days
Wardi Open
3 days
WardiTV Korean Royale
4 days
Replay Cast
4 days
Kung Fu Cup
5 days
Classic vs Solar
herO vs Cure
Reynor vs GuMiho
ByuN vs ShoWTimE
Tenacious Turtle Tussle
5 days
The PondCast
5 days
RSL Revival
5 days
Solar vs Zoun
MaxPax vs Bunny
Kung Fu Cup
6 days
WardiTV Korean Royale
6 days
RSL Revival
6 days
Classic vs Creator
Cure vs TriGGeR
Liquipedia Results

Completed

BSL 21 Points
SC4ALL: StarCraft II
Eternal Conflict S1

Ongoing

C-Race Season 1
IPSL Winter 2025-26
KCM Race Survival 2025 Season 4
SOOP Univ League 2025
YSL S2
Stellar Fest: Constellation Cup
IEM Chengdu 2025
PGL Masters Bucharest 2025
Thunderpick World Champ.
CS Asia Championships 2025
ESL Pro League S22
StarSeries Fall 2025
FISSURE Playground #2
BLAST Open Fall 2025
BLAST Open Fall Qual

Upcoming

BSL Season 21
SLON Tour Season 2
BSL 21 Non-Korean Championship
Acropolis #4
IPSL Spring 2026
HSC XXVIII
RSL Offline Finals
WardiTV 2025
RSL Revival: Season 3
META Madness #9
BLAST Bounty Winter 2026: Closed Qualifier
eXTREMESLAND 2025
ESL Impact League Season 8
SL Budapest Major 2025
BLAST Rivals Fall 2025
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2025 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.