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ToT)OjKa(
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Korea (South)2437 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-07-16 20:58:02
July 16 2009 20:54 GMT
#1
I've had to get this off my chest for awhile now and i have to share my disappointment (to anyone that cares) of MGS4.

In my opinion, the MGS series has got progressively worse. MGS was fucking awesome
MGS2 was...well it was going ok despite being this panzy man, you know, i was having fun and stuff busting C4 and shit everywhere and making my own pretend scenarios. I thought the boss fights were pretty lame and my god at the end, what the fuck happened to the story?
So there i am, 14 or so, busting Metal Gear Rays left right and centre. BANG BANG WHOOSH CAPOODLE SHIT and then old Solidus starts talking to me about the SSS shit.

Let me tell you something, having some dude explain this whole fucking SSS thing for 10 or so minutes, and then having the next 20 minutes having some other dude explain that the previous SSS thing was a mistake and tell you the real version for the next 10 minutes...man come on...it's like reading the first chapter of a book and getting on to the next chapter which starts as:

"yo, forgot the first chapter, it's all shit" and have that chapter last for 100 pages.
bloody bloody crap

MGS3 - i don't know how to rate this...it's a good game (sadly i didn't have the better edition so i was forced to play with enemies that come out of nowhere because the camra angle is retarded) and it was kinda fun i guess. I did like being Naked Snake but the game just...was so linear.
Yes i know they all are, but with 3 it just felt like, YO, DO THIS AND SHIT THEN DO THAT with no jokes inbetween or fun dialogue (no way can you beat MGS1 dialogue)
The last fight vs the Boss was pretty damn good, but after i completed it...i just couldn't think of any fun stuff to do with it.

On to MGS4:
ehhhh
It's an alright game, but a terrible MGS game.

The story, well, fairplay, i'll go through this stuff just so i can see how this saga ends anWAR ECONOMY NANOMACHINES NANOMACHINES NAN
Ok i don't really have much to say about the story, it was alright

The bosses in this game are fucking terrible. Absolutely pathetic:

No1: Frogs
Not really a boss but it's the first kind of special battle you have with these elite ninja P50 motherfuckers that like to walk into you while Johnny shits his pants.

2: Laughing Octopus
So there i am in some laberotory with just my wits to arm me (ok and some guns). WHERE? WHERE IS THIS CAMOFLAGUED DEMON?!
She taunts me and laughs, i walk around slowly...wait a minute...is that...? shit i better take a closer look...
Ok so i see this moron camoflagued pretty well, but er...whats the point in completely hiding yourself when you're going to do absolutely nothing when i walk over to you? I mean what the hell? This alone just ruins the boss fight entirely. Here i am expecting some crazy shit splatty ambush stuff when i can just walk about to her and stick my gun in her ass...whats the point?
And that fucking stupid rolling attack she does...

3: Don't remember
Bloody stupid flying raven thing. God this fight was boring and stupid. Yes i want to fight a boss, no i don't want to fight these stupid bloody unmanned flying twats.

4: Crying Wolf
Again, i want to fight a boss in this stupid bloody weather where i can't see shit, not having to stop the fight to shoot those damn Frog bastards again. THEY DON'T SEE ME, THEY DON'T SHOOT ME, THEY WASTE MY AMMO. Pointless.

5: Vamp
bloody hell, how is this guy so shit compared to 2? This fight is just atrocious. Boring, not fun and nothing special.

6: METAL GEAR!?s
When your little robot dude sticks his wang in REX to restart him or something, a bunch of bastard smaller metal gears jump around, some that just self destruct (waste of money really...)
Now, Raiden did do a pretty good show of gunning down a relentless horde of RAYS back in 2, that was pretty cool, that was intense and you didn't know when it would end.
This however is just stupid. Just stupid.

7: REX vs RAY
During being abandoned, REX meditated and gained some ninja powers. This fight is pretty cool, i mean come on, it's Snake and REX vs Liquid and RAY, fuck yeah.
Too easy to enjoy it fully though

8: Screaming Mantis
ehhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh FROGS AGAIN. As soon as you shoot Mantis' doll things and throw one at him, he's dead. Thats it. How pathetic is that? Some long drawn out fight in some crazy place, dodging shit and zombies and when you throw a doll at him, he just dies...she rather or whatever.

9: SNAAAAAAAAAAAAAKE?! vs LIQUID!
Beautiful.

Overall the boss fights are shit, except the last which has been the greatest fight and cinematics i have witnessed for a game so far. You crazy old bastards.

It seems like the dialogue has no flaNANOMACHINES and is just tedious. The characters are so flat yet they have so much history together...

SNAAAAAKE?! and Meryl:
the fuck man, i got tortured for you, saved your ass countless times and how do you repay me? You called me a legend back in the day and now you don't say anything nice to me and you go blow Johnny...da fuck man

and Mei Ling:
Same shit man, she says like one thing to snake after like...10 years or whatever from Shadow Moses? Yeah thanks for saving the world snake and risking your life and shit, see you later when you do it repeatedly...pff

OTACON!
Don't actually remember anything he said...he's a cool guy though...

Raiden:
Look Raiden, no one likes a know it all cyborg ninja twat thats invincible. I mean, it's not even like you're risking your life, you just do shit and fight vamp and get owned (UNLIKE OLD SNAKEY BOY). More on you later

And some other characters that i forgot

The beauty and the beast squad...look ladies, i don't fucking care about your stupid bloody stories that some dude tells me after i've killed you. Unlikes MGS1 where snake shares some dialogue way before you even fight them, before you fight them and have their tales told to you as they lie dieing, you damn bitches think i give a shit about you when you say stupid things like "I'M LAUGHING HAHAHA" and "RAAAAGE"? Come over here so i can bust your ass and die and then after i'm done with you, some other dude will tell me about your stupid life over the phone as if i cared anymore. Just think back to snake with Psycho Mantis and Vulcan Raven, man, when do you ever have a good chat with a boss like that? No chat, no reason to care.

Vamp is just a pussy. They had to ruin his mystic and YO WTF BULLET IN THE HEAD shit with NANOMACHINES NANOMACHINES HE LIVES CUZ NANOMACHINES LOLL. Yeah nice one Vamp you gimp.

Honestly man, why didn't anyone die? Ok, Naomi did, but once again, when someone is gonna be a bastard and backstab me, i tend not to care if they die.
Maybe Snake at the end could have blown his brains out. If he did i'd think
"oh snake, forever fighting all to the end. Never had a chance of peace...why...why do you have to sacrafice yourself again and again?! It's not fair snake...it's just not fair"
Then i'd probably get pissed off because all these junk characters like Meryl and Raiden survive.

When Raiden gets himself mashed up by that big mother fucking boat and you get those flashbacks and shit...man, fairplay Raiden, you were a bit of a dick, but i feel sorrow that you die like this, you have sacra- oh wait he's alive, just a bit fucked up. Stick him in the plane.
Oh Raiden, back to save Snake from the FROGS while he goes through that corridor of death (really cool by the way). Oh how you use your mouth to wield the blade and slice FROG bastards, you know Raiden, you're kinda cool an OH SHIT THEY ALL JUST STABBED THE FUCK OUTTA YOU. Damn Raiden, your death will not be forgo- oh wait he's afuckinglive again...fuck sake Raiden this is why no one likes you, you donk.
And by the way, Grey Fox shits on you.

Meryl and Johnny, how the fuck do you not die? HOW THE FUCK. Even without your superpower nanomachine, you still survive and have a stupid bloody wedding after. HOW YOU THINK SNAKE FEELS ABOUT THAT HUH? DAMN BITCH I HATE YOU!

God damn man, those dicks should have died, then i could have respected them instead of them injecting some pheonix down into themselves.

Big MAMA
YO SNAKE, I'M YOUR MOTHER THAT YOU NEVER KNEW ABOUT. YO SUP, OH SHIT I'M DEAD. Snake doesn't seem to be bothered much...

Ocelot
Man, so you were ocelot all along pretending to be liquid? The fuck man, why you kill the magic? WHY YOU KILL THE MAGIC

Like MGS2, i am flabbergausted with all these weapons. Every weapon in 1 had a purpose, you needed them at some point to progress through the game. Now MGS4 just shits weapons on you and whats even worse is that i'm never going to run out of ammo because i can buy a lot of shit faster than i can sneeze.
Whatever happened to the slugfest vs Vulcan Raven where you're running low on shit? You stick a few C4s around and try to time it, plant a claymore or two, even shoot a nikita into his face. Desperate times man.

Big Boss:
Sup man, glad to see your alive because of some stupid story. You mother fucking badass. Ah well looks like you're dead again...nevermind
A woman...in a cell?!

TL:DR
Bosses suck dick except final boss
Characters and dialogue are pathetic
other negetive stuff

Oh and by the way, don't big up some kind of multichoice shit with having multiple ways through maps. You either take the shooty way with the ever present rebel dudes, or you take the quiet road...bloody overhyped gay mother fuck donkaments

Only reason i got a PS3 was mainly for MGS4 and to a lesser extent Tekken 6 and the FF series (actually a much less extent, lost faith long time ago)
Don't even think i'm getting ANOTHER metal gear game with that fucknig Raiden because he's a dick and he's not going to die or do anything creative and i find no joy in playing immortal bastards.


METAL GEAR?!...I CAN'T BE!

oh and i forgot

Shadow Moses:
Way to fucking ruin this whole chapter with those stupid bloody little shitty gay ass robot dickheads that...fuck sake man...stupid bloody 3 legged robots...3 armed robots rather

****
OjKa OjKa OjKa!
barth
Profile Joined March 2008
Ireland1272 Posts
July 16 2009 20:59 GMT
#2
I remember playing first game, but that was so long ago that I barely remember the game itself... Im pretty sure it was good though
"Somebody you are talking to disappears mid sentence, and the universe shoots you because you talked to someone that wasn`t there." - MasterOfChaos
benutbutter
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States66 Posts
July 16 2009 21:12 GMT
#3
:/

I enjoyed all of them, especially the last one, though I have to agree that the game was pretty drawn out thanks to long cutscenes explaining all that tedious boring stuff.
Revabug
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United Kingdom147 Posts
July 16 2009 21:15 GMT
#4
Yeah the story was bad; but I completely disagree where you state things about the gameplay being the culprit. I've only got to play it a few times but the gameplay/boss fights are amazing if you're only just playing it for a bit.

If you play it for a while I think it gets to the point where you can just easily abuse the AI (like in MGS1/2/3 as well). I thought it was a good game and yeah MGS2 did make the storyline pretty ridiculous but the ending of MGS4 with whatshisname (guy in wheelchair) finally dying was epic!
Magic84
Profile Joined October 2008
Russian Federation1381 Posts
July 16 2009 21:18 GMT
#5
MGS4 was so great, i loved it. No way it's any worse than 2 or 3. It's actually way more epic than those. What i missed a lot was a good codec system, i loved reading these hours and hours long conversations in 1-2.

MGS1 was by far the most emotionally stunning experience, because it was the first one, so i won't compare it to later games.

I can name 3 scenes in MGS4 (won't spoil those), that are greater than anything there ever was in mgs1-3.
PanoRaMa
Profile Blog Joined June 2003
United States5070 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-07-16 21:21:46
July 16 2009 21:20 GMT
#6
On July 17 2009 05:54 ToT)OjKa( wrote:
Oh how you use your mouth to wield the blade and slice FROG bastards, you know Raiden, you're kinda cool an OH SHIT THEY ALL JUST STABBED THE FUCK OUTTA YOU. Damn Raiden, your death will not be forgo- oh wait he's afuckinglive again...fuck sake Raiden this is why no one likes you, you donk.


i lol'ed

MGS1 was far superior but I still enjoyed MGS4. Everyone seems to share the same sentiments about the bosses in this one (just retarded filler characters) too . For me it was just capping the end to the entire saga which is just...closure I guess, and that's fine w/ me.

On July 17 2009 06:18 Magic84 wrote:
I can name 3 scenes in MGS4 (won't spoil those), that are greater than anything there ever was in mgs1-3.


the game is over a year old you're not really spoiling much :x or put them in spoiler tags if you need to.
DeathSpank
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States1029 Posts
July 16 2009 21:26 GMT
#7
I'm too poor for a ps3 but it makes me sad to hear all of this. Snake is such a badass...its a shame he is surrounded by limp dicks.
yes.
GoSu
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Korea (South)1773 Posts
July 16 2009 22:06 GMT
#8
MGS 1 was the best for me. The scenario and atmosphere can't be defeated...Really the best game ever on Playstation. On GameCube, he is excellent too.
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ToT)OjKa(
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Korea (South)2437 Posts
July 16 2009 22:20 GMT
#9
On July 17 2009 06:20 PanoRaMa wrote:
MGS1 was far superior but I still enjoyed MGS4. Everyone seems to share the same sentiments about the bosses in this one (just retarded filler characters) too . For me it was just capping the end to the entire saga which is just...closure I guess, and that's fine w/ me.


yeah thats how i feel, it was nice to end it, but it could have just been so much better than it was
OjKa OjKa OjKa!
lazymej
Profile Joined February 2006
Canada269 Posts
July 16 2009 22:46 GMT
#10
i loved mgs4
^_~
Revabug
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United Kingdom147 Posts
July 17 2009 10:03 GMT
#11
[QUOTE]On July 17 2009 06:20 PanoRaMa wrote:
i lol'ed

MGS1 was far superior but I still enjoyed MGS4. Everyone seems to share the same sentiments about the bosses in this one (just retarded filler characters) too . For me it was just capping the end to the entire saga which is just...closure I guess, and that's fine w/ me.

QUOTE]

Yeah till they answer another! [Metal Gear Rising] :p

Not complaining about them continuing but using this 'Last in the series' ploy to get in an extra few sales has been done to death by them.

But! It' s on PC! Might buy a controller and try it. Playing as Raiden might sucks but playing as Ninja Raiden? Sounds fun
konadora *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Singapore66364 Posts
July 17 2009 10:47 GMT
#12
I watched my friend play this, and I have never played the series but I think the graphics were pretty awesome. But the intro (all those weird stuff where they simulated a TV with different channels) was hella weird
POGGERS
ToT)OjKa(
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Korea (South)2437 Posts
July 17 2009 16:31 GMT
#13
The TV programs at the start...i was like the fuck man what have i bought? i didn't even change the channel the first time cos i was just like the fuck man what have i bought? Luckily my ps3 crashed both times after the TV stuff was over so i did manage to change the controls and i began to recognise the characters from the previous games. Then with a little bit of "put the old PS3 on it's side instead" my MGS4 began to work

My ps3 is kinda borked, it's all cool, but for some reason just hates on a game...i'm lucky if my Warhawk doesn't crash within the first 3 seconds of joining a map, after that it runs fine ;/
OjKa OjKa OjKa!
Insane Lane
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States397 Posts
July 17 2009 22:48 GMT
#14
*GASP* NANOMACHINES!!

Too much talk, not enough walk. Seriously, by far like 3/4s of the actual game time was watching cinematics and people explain shit and all this useless stuff. I kinda wanna play the game, as I expected I would after playing the other MGS games.

Btw my favorite MGS was 3.. I loved the jungle setting, storyline, and bosses. Man, the MGS3 bosses were so awesome.

The MGS4 bosses... were anticlimactic yeah. After so much time was spent hyping them up, just facing them without any real pretext and killing them relatively quickly was just... bleh. And wtf with making them all walk up and try and give you head lol.. like seriously.

NANOMACHINES?!?!?!

I mean I love epic storylines, but there was way too much contrived BS in MGS4. And I also didn't like how they made Dennis Rodman such a big part of the storyline.

NANOMACHINES
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