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Spenguin
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
Australia3316 Posts
July 12 2009 11:25 GMT
#41
The IRC suggestion is a good idea I'm surprised it hasn't been suggested before.

Don't go kona!!!
< TeamLiquid CJ Entusman #46 > I came for the Brood War, I stayed for the people.
d(O.o)a
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Canada5066 Posts
July 12 2009 11:26 GMT
#42
On July 12 2009 20:21 Manifesto7 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 12 2009 20:12 TommyG wrote:
ur a big baby


get bent.


Thank you.
Hi.
Medzo
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States627 Posts
July 12 2009 11:27 GMT
#43
aw you shouldn't stop streamin you do a good job. The people complaining are just teens filled with raging hormones. Don't take it to heart, nobody kicks a dead dog.
Polis
Profile Joined January 2005
Poland1292 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-07-12 11:32:24
July 12 2009 11:29 GMT
#44
On July 12 2009 19:57 konadora wrote:And if I don't, people go "FUCK YOU WHY DON'T OFF CHAT ??!?!?!?!!?"


Where will they post it? It seems like turning the chat off will solve problems.

As for putting information above stream, without chat there will be no need for it as you can post that info in chat screen.
d(O.o)a
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Canada5066 Posts
July 12 2009 11:30 GMT
#45
On July 12 2009 20:25 Too_MuchZerg wrote:
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On July 12 2009 20:03 d(O.o)a wrote:
On July 12 2009 20:02 Too_MuchZerg wrote:
Just turn off chat. I personally left konadora stream when there was extra things showing on stream (showing who is playing etc aka covering upper screen and my attention is too much there because of contrast).


The reason he puts the little blurb thing at the top is so people aren't confused about who's playing if they're either a) new to starcraft or b) tuning in late

and it doesn't cover up the top he puts it right above the stream.


Its contrast. White up and black starcraft screen makes me look both at same time.

If I don't know who is playing I do

A) Check races they are playing and then compare to tl.net thread

B) check players teams (usually shown next to players name) and figure out who is who

C) If its proleague game, obviously from game score.

D) not being lazy and doing your own research

E) from TL.net thread where usually some one types players starting positions

F) sometimes observers ally left side booth if its mirror game (around 75% time) so I can figure out who is playing mirror races)

If these won't help I just enjoy watching without knowing who is playing.


Yes but there are a lot of people who have just recently started watching SC and don't think to do that so having that tiny blurb at the top is nice.
Hi.
disciple
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
9070 Posts
July 12 2009 11:32 GMT
#46
I totally understand you, if you decide to stop streaming, I get easily annoyed by stupid people as well, but believe me, you have the support of the hole community for what you are doing - streaming, translations etc.
Dont stop, really
Administrator"I'm a big deal." - ixmike88
sixghost
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
United States2096 Posts
July 12 2009 11:34 GMT
#47
Just turn off chat immediately when you start up the stream. All problems solved.
mG.sixghost @ iCCup || One ling, two ling, three ling, four... Camp four gas, then ultra-whore . -Saracen
Jusciax
Profile Joined August 2007
Lithuania588 Posts
July 12 2009 11:36 GMT
#48
I like your streams and comments during games but man, you have to be realistic about this issue... There's no way in hell that a stream with 500 users won't have assholes, spammers and other trash. I don't know why are you giving them points by acknowledging their influence on you, stopping streaming and then writing a blog about it. I'm 100% sure that majority of people, including me, appreciate your streams and the time and effort you put in, so why not look at the bright side instead of focusing on few fucktards.
Carnac
Profile Blog Joined December 2003
Germany / USA16648 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-07-12 11:39:21
July 12 2009 11:39 GMT
#49
There were retards on the mogulus chats pretty much from day one (way before you started streaming), there's nothing you can do about it. Plus with a lot of people in the chat it tends to hog a lot of resources, so the best way is really to deactivate the chat and chat elsewhere (TL IRC, like others pointed out). Personally I don't like the Chinese streams either, but I keep it to myself (not to mention having a Chinese stream is always better than having no stream at all) and don't pollute the chat or any threads with it. Ungrateful fucks are common on the internet (and life in general), it's just the way it is
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Crissaegrim
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
2947 Posts
July 12 2009 11:49 GMT
#50
The saddest part is that it only takes one or two idiots to spoil a stream that has an average of 100+ viewers.

I'm not defending them, but sometimes when let's say your stream gets dc'ed and everyone goes like "F*** You Kona..", don't take it personally. It's just that many people are really into the game and their reaction is well, very spontaneous. It's the same with many other sports. A split second goal can make even the most well-mannered and decent man into a swearing machine.

I have used your stream many times and well, if that's your decision then, I'll respect your decision. Thanks for the good views. Much appreciated.
Too_MuchZerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
Finland2818 Posts
July 12 2009 11:50 GMT
#51
I posted this on NeverGG blog some time ago, so here it is for Konadora blog too.


"Well pretty much standard way to get e-sports famous.

1. Massively doing things (let it be uploading vods, photos, interviews, etc)

2. You reach your peak.

3. You don't see enough respect towards you (lack of comments, traffic, popularity etc)

4. now that you have basic fanbase you can slow down things and try to get more quality towards it

5. Some point you wonder is this really necessary to do, should I just quit/retire.

6. fading out of scene

I personally have experienced same situation and going phase 6."
konadora *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Singapore66201 Posts
July 12 2009 11:53 GMT
#52
"Well pretty much standard way to get e-sports famous.


...

If you misread my intentions then I don't know what to say anymore
POGGERS
motbob
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States12546 Posts
July 12 2009 11:56 GMT
#53
On July 12 2009 20:53 konadora wrote:
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"Well pretty much standard way to get e-sports famous.


...

If you misread my intentions then I don't know what to say anymore

LOL it's a mistranslation. He's talking about the general arc of being eSports famous.
ModeratorGood content always wins.
fnaticNoname
Profile Joined January 2008
India858 Posts
July 12 2009 11:59 GMT
#54
You must be feeling so hurt to have made this blog

Don't quit - you've been doing so well, I might not check the stream often due to my crappy internet here in India but I always like the fact that no matter what you're streaming or doing translations from your own free time. Maybe you need to take a break from this and probably only do select stuff but don't underestimate your contributions to the community.

Hope you think of these things with a calm mind.
HonestTea *
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
5007 Posts
July 12 2009 12:00 GMT
#55
what some people are trying to say, albiet ungainly, is that the nature of sharing things on the internet will require some thick skin.

while nochat + TL irc is the logical solution,

on a higher level, doing anything on the internet will never be always peaches and cream, and you should expect anything. It's unfortunate that your streaming service, which brought a lot of joy and a sense of community to many people, will be stopped because you let bad comments and bad incidents get to you.

words are just words, and if this great thing that you're doing goes down because you couldn't get over the fact that some anonymous douche who doesn't even know you is calling you a few words, that would be very sad.

All the things you started for this site never were done with feedback as the goal, whether positive or negative. I've been in your shoes, and I know; you don't do it for the props. You do it to share. So why let the negative comments get to you?

Toughen up.
returns upon momentous occasions.
Badjas
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Netherlands2038 Posts
July 12 2009 12:03 GMT
#56
On July 12 2009 19:57 konadora wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 12 2009 19:55 motbob wrote:
OK, stop streaming. If you can't handle it and you're not willing to turn off chat, stop.

Yeah lol cause if I turn off chat people still go "FUCK YOU WHY OFF CHAT?!?!?!?!??"

And if I don't, people go "FUCK YOU WHY DON'T OFF CHAT ??!?!?!?!!?"

whatever man

How can people complain about not having a chat in an f'ing video stream??
Just turn it off I'd say, there's tl's board, irc, msn and related, even...
People (read: trolls) will get used to it.

Sorry that you feel troubled about this.

(oh, and don't you love the irony that people are now saying WTF! NO MORE STEAMING!!! F YOU KONA!)
I <3 the internet, I <3 you
PH
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States6173 Posts
July 12 2009 12:08 GMT
#57
Do whatever the fuck you want to do, Kona-fucking-dora!!

Who gives a fuck...you're doing a service to the community streaming games and all that shit.

But...I don't really watch SC live anymore, so it doesn't affect me a whole lot. I've used your stream like once. The regular dudes'll probably have a lot more to say about this in the OTHER direction...ahahaha.
Hello
nozaro33
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Taiwan1819 Posts
July 12 2009 12:08 GMT
#58
I enjoyed using your stream to watch live, and appreciate your contribution. Whether you decide to quit streaming or not, thank you for doing this for all of us. (I always had problems watching live until your stream came along)
#1 Flash / #2 NaDa / #3 Stats fan / KT fan for life
Archaic
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States4024 Posts
July 12 2009 12:09 GMT
#59
Despite being banned from your channel, I still watched it, and really appreciate the effort that you put into it. Also, the chat on livestream is painful anyways so it really isn't much of a loss. Thank you konadora!
kaleidoscope
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Singapore2887 Posts
July 12 2009 12:10 GMT
#60
Others can still post onto the threads in TL as per normal if they stream into OGN's VLC or Daum Sports, blah blah.. They will jsut type what they want on the thread instead in your stream..

But i think others should be grateful of what kona did though, and if those who think his stream is laggy, prove to the rest and stream it to others..
대지따라 돌린게 시간이다.. 흘러가고 돌아오지도 않고..
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