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T.O.P. *
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Hong Kong4685 Posts
June 17 2009 19:27 GMT
#61
On June 18 2009 02:49 AoN.DimSum wrote:
haha read the youtube comments in the apology video. Everyone is bashing tlnet now.

Don't even bother writing pro-TL comments in the apology video, he'll just delete them.
Oracle comes in, Scvs go down, never a miscommunication.
Kyo Yuy
Profile Joined January 2009
United States1286 Posts
June 17 2009 19:43 GMT
#62
On June 18 2009 03:34 Hot_Bid wrote:
Hacking and abusing is the cardinal sin in the Brood War community. Making one video and apologizing doesn't just absolve you from blame. In fact, I encourage excessive flaming of hackers and abusers for at least 1+ year from the incident.

Just wondering, hasn't it been a year by now? Or is he still abusing ICCUP?

Combat seems to get a LOT more hate than players like LastShadow, Dino, and even the recent fiasco with ilovejessgill or whatever his/her name was.
#1 KawaiiRice fan :D
Hypnosis
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States2061 Posts
June 17 2009 20:00 GMT
#63
On June 18 2009 04:43 Kyo Yuy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 18 2009 03:34 Hot_Bid wrote:
Hacking and abusing is the cardinal sin in the Brood War community. Making one video and apologizing doesn't just absolve you from blame. In fact, I encourage excessive flaming of hackers and abusers for at least 1+ year from the incident.

Just wondering, hasn't it been a year by now? Or is he still abusing ICCUP?

Combat seems to get a LOT more hate than players like LastShadow, Dino, and even the recent fiasco with ilovejessgill or whatever his/her name was.


Thats because the other players are actually good.
Science without religion is lame, Religion without science is blind
Megalisk
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
United States6095 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-06-17 20:11:08
June 17 2009 20:09 GMT
#64
On June 18 2009 01:13 TheFoReveRwaR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 18 2009 00:54 Megalisk wrote:
On June 18 2009 00:45 Combat-EX wrote:
im not blaming anyone for what ive done...

and just to clear it up....i didn't post that ad, and i have no idea who did

this video is literally exactly what you guys have asked
and i made it...posted it on youtube for all my fans to see

if this doesn't make u guys happy,
i dont know what else i can do.


Thanks for the vid man, that's pretty brave, honestly, your vids are what got me into 1v1 starcraft instead of playing BGH/Fastest.

You have painfully low standards.



Cause I don't care about his little shenanigans, He just posts videos to help noobs and they do. He is a liar and he knows he isn't B-, but hes just giving some help.
Tear stained american saints and dirty guitar dreams across a universe of desert and blue sky , gas station coffee love letters and two dollar pistol kisses from thirty five dollar hotel room stationary .
Fr33t
Profile Joined June 2008
United States1128 Posts
June 17 2009 20:13 GMT
#65
rofl at the new banner, that's awesome, haha
"Wow you could literally transport Lomo's face to a girl and the result would be pretty deceptive."
Harem
Profile Joined November 2007
United States11390 Posts
June 17 2009 20:15 GMT
#66
On June 18 2009 05:13 Fr33t wrote:
rofl at the new banner, that's awesome, haha

It even links to esports2.wav when you click on it.

Whoever added it is a hero.
Moderator。◕‿◕。
PriitM
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Algeria181 Posts
June 17 2009 20:16 GMT
#67
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Hot_Bid
Profile Blog Joined October 2003
Braavos36374 Posts
June 17 2009 20:17 GMT
#68
On June 18 2009 05:09 Megalisk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 18 2009 01:13 TheFoReveRwaR wrote:
On June 18 2009 00:54 Megalisk wrote:
On June 18 2009 00:45 Combat-EX wrote:
im not blaming anyone for what ive done...

and just to clear it up....i didn't post that ad, and i have no idea who did

this video is literally exactly what you guys have asked
and i made it...posted it on youtube for all my fans to see

if this doesn't make u guys happy,
i dont know what else i can do.


Thanks for the vid man, that's pretty brave, honestly, your vids are what got me into 1v1 starcraft instead of playing BGH/Fastest.

You have painfully low standards.

Cause I don't care about his little shenanigans, He just posts videos to help noobs and they do. He is a liar and he knows he isn't B-, but hes just giving some help.

Unfortunately, helping someone isn't a shield against criticism. For instance, OJ Simpson entertained millions of people with his skills as a running back in the National Football League. He then went on to murder two people. But I'm sure he helped people when he was a running back. This doesn't mean we can't say that his murders are wrong. Why are you supporting murder?
@Hot_Bid on Twitter - ESPORTS life since 2010 - http://i.imgur.com/U2psw.png
disciple
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
9070 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-06-17 20:19:05
June 17 2009 20:17 GMT
#69
well he screwed it up badly, but the year long flaming that Hot_Bid was talking about in the previous thread is just not necessary. I agree that the forgiveness must come later but think about it the other way. Sooner or later you will all become parents, and when your kids lie to you about smth which they eventually will do, you will most likely beat them, forbid them to watch tv for a week and thats it. If your so called love to the game and to fair play is so strong just focus on this and stop gangbanging ot combat-ex. Sure he did smth childish but you have no reason not to act mature yourself...
Administrator"I'm a big deal." - ixmike88
Megalisk
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
United States6095 Posts
June 17 2009 20:23 GMT
#70
On June 18 2009 05:17 Hot_Bid wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 18 2009 05:09 Megalisk wrote:
On June 18 2009 01:13 TheFoReveRwaR wrote:
On June 18 2009 00:54 Megalisk wrote:
On June 18 2009 00:45 Combat-EX wrote:
im not blaming anyone for what ive done...

and just to clear it up....i didn't post that ad, and i have no idea who did

this video is literally exactly what you guys have asked
and i made it...posted it on youtube for all my fans to see

if this doesn't make u guys happy,
i dont know what else i can do.


Thanks for the vid man, that's pretty brave, honestly, your vids are what got me into 1v1 starcraft instead of playing BGH/Fastest.

You have painfully low standards.

Cause I don't care about his little shenanigans, He just posts videos to help noobs and they do. He is a liar and he knows he isn't B-, but hes just giving some help.

Unfortunately, helping someone isn't a shield against criticism. For instance, OJ Simpson entertained millions of people with his skills as a running back in the National Football League. He then went on to murder two people. But I'm sure he helped people when he was a running back. This doesn't mean we can't say that his murders are wrong. Why are you supporting murder?



Except this isn't murder, its playing a fucking computer game.
Tear stained american saints and dirty guitar dreams across a universe of desert and blue sky , gas station coffee love letters and two dollar pistol kisses from thirty five dollar hotel room stationary .
Avidkeystamper
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States8552 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-06-17 20:28:03
June 17 2009 20:27 GMT
#71
On June 18 2009 05:23 Megalisk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 18 2009 05:17 Hot_Bid wrote:
On June 18 2009 05:09 Megalisk wrote:
On June 18 2009 01:13 TheFoReveRwaR wrote:
On June 18 2009 00:54 Megalisk wrote:
On June 18 2009 00:45 Combat-EX wrote:
im not blaming anyone for what ive done...

and just to clear it up....i didn't post that ad, and i have no idea who did

this video is literally exactly what you guys have asked
and i made it...posted it on youtube for all my fans to see

if this doesn't make u guys happy,
i dont know what else i can do.


Thanks for the vid man, that's pretty brave, honestly, your vids are what got me into 1v1 starcraft instead of playing BGH/Fastest.

You have painfully low standards.

Cause I don't care about his little shenanigans, He just posts videos to help noobs and they do. He is a liar and he knows he isn't B-, but hes just giving some help.

Unfortunately, helping someone isn't a shield against criticism. For instance, OJ Simpson entertained millions of people with his skills as a running back in the National Football League. He then went on to murder two people. But I'm sure he helped people when he was a running back. This doesn't mean we can't say that his murders are wrong. Why are you supporting murder?



Except this isn't murder, its playing a fucking computer game.

That's just pointing out the difference in severity between the two examples but not the similarities.
It's like no one knows what an analogy is since I see this retort every time one is used.
Jaedong
YPang
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
United States4024 Posts
June 17 2009 20:28 GMT
#72
On June 18 2009 05:23 Megalisk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 18 2009 05:17 Hot_Bid wrote:
On June 18 2009 05:09 Megalisk wrote:
On June 18 2009 01:13 TheFoReveRwaR wrote:
On June 18 2009 00:54 Megalisk wrote:
On June 18 2009 00:45 Combat-EX wrote:
im not blaming anyone for what ive done...

and just to clear it up....i didn't post that ad, and i have no idea who did

this video is literally exactly what you guys have asked
and i made it...posted it on youtube for all my fans to see

if this doesn't make u guys happy,
i dont know what else i can do.


Thanks for the vid man, that's pretty brave, honestly, your vids are what got me into 1v1 starcraft instead of playing BGH/Fastest.

You have painfully low standards.

Cause I don't care about his little shenanigans, He just posts videos to help noobs and they do. He is a liar and he knows he isn't B-, but hes just giving some help.

Unfortunately, helping someone isn't a shield against criticism. For instance, OJ Simpson entertained millions of people with his skills as a running back in the National Football League. He then went on to murder two people. But I'm sure he helped people when he was a running back. This doesn't mean we can't say that his murders are wrong. Why are you supporting murder?



Except this isn't murder, its playing a fucking computer game.


a computer game that brings tons of competition that people want to be fair, and often times money is involved in MANY events/clan leagues.
sMi.Gladstone | BW: B high| SC2: gold T_T
freelander
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
Hungary4707 Posts
June 17 2009 20:32 GMT
#73
On June 18 2009 05:15 Harem wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 18 2009 05:13 Fr33t wrote:
rofl at the new banner, that's awesome, haha

It even links to esports2.wav when you click on it.

Whoever added it is a hero.


it is so chill-esque
or maybe a fast expansion.. you never know you know
And all is illuminated.
Hot_Bid
Profile Blog Joined October 2003
Braavos36374 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-06-17 20:33:38
June 17 2009 20:32 GMT
#74
On June 18 2009 05:23 Megalisk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 18 2009 05:17 Hot_Bid wrote:
On June 18 2009 05:09 Megalisk wrote:
On June 18 2009 01:13 TheFoReveRwaR wrote:
On June 18 2009 00:54 Megalisk wrote:
On June 18 2009 00:45 Combat-EX wrote:
im not blaming anyone for what ive done...

and just to clear it up....i didn't post that ad, and i have no idea who did

this video is literally exactly what you guys have asked
and i made it...posted it on youtube for all my fans to see

if this doesn't make u guys happy,
i dont know what else i can do.


Thanks for the vid man, that's pretty brave, honestly, your vids are what got me into 1v1 starcraft instead of playing BGH/Fastest.

You have painfully low standards.

Cause I don't care about his little shenanigans, He just posts videos to help noobs and they do. He is a liar and he knows he isn't B-, but hes just giving some help.

Unfortunately, helping someone isn't a shield against criticism. For instance, OJ Simpson entertained millions of people with his skills as a running back in the National Football League. He then went on to murder two people. But I'm sure he helped people when he was a running back. This doesn't mean we can't say that his murders are wrong. Why are you supporting murder?

Except this isn't murder, its playing a fucking computer game.

Would you like me to provide an example that is less serious than murder, and we can debate which is more severe, abusing on ICCup or taking steroids in high school sports (he's helping the fans so i don't care!), or cheating in high school (he's helping his friends get better grades and get into college so i dont care!), etc.

But thank you for pointing out that taking freewins on a ladder is not actually killing someone, I was not aware of this difference when I made the analogy. I can't believe I didn't see that.
@Hot_Bid on Twitter - ESPORTS life since 2010 - http://i.imgur.com/U2psw.png
keV.
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States3214 Posts
June 17 2009 20:34 GMT
#75
On June 18 2009 05:27 Avidkeystamper wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 18 2009 05:23 Megalisk wrote:
On June 18 2009 05:17 Hot_Bid wrote:
On June 18 2009 05:09 Megalisk wrote:
On June 18 2009 01:13 TheFoReveRwaR wrote:
On June 18 2009 00:54 Megalisk wrote:
On June 18 2009 00:45 Combat-EX wrote:
im not blaming anyone for what ive done...

and just to clear it up....i didn't post that ad, and i have no idea who did

this video is literally exactly what you guys have asked
and i made it...posted it on youtube for all my fans to see

if this doesn't make u guys happy,
i dont know what else i can do.


Thanks for the vid man, that's pretty brave, honestly, your vids are what got me into 1v1 starcraft instead of playing BGH/Fastest.

You have painfully low standards.

Cause I don't care about his little shenanigans, He just posts videos to help noobs and they do. He is a liar and he knows he isn't B-, but hes just giving some help.

Unfortunately, helping someone isn't a shield against criticism. For instance, OJ Simpson entertained millions of people with his skills as a running back in the National Football League. He then went on to murder two people. But I'm sure he helped people when he was a running back. This doesn't mean we can't say that his murders are wrong. Why are you supporting murder?



Except this isn't murder, its playing a fucking computer game.

That's just pointing out the difference in severity between the two examples but not the similarities.
It's like no one knows what an analogy is since I see this retort every time one is used.


So true... this is one of those knee jerk forum auto responses people think make sense.
"brevity is the soul of wit" - William Shakesman
Hot_Bid
Profile Blog Joined October 2003
Braavos36374 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-06-17 20:38:00
June 17 2009 20:37 GMT
#76
On June 18 2009 05:17 disciple wrote:
well he screwed it up badly, but the year long flaming that Hot_Bid was talking about in the previous thread is just not necessary. I agree that the forgiveness must come later but think about it the other way. Sooner or later you will all become parents, and when your kids lie to you about smth which they eventually will do, you will most likely beat them, forbid them to watch tv for a week and thats it. If your so called love to the game and to fair play is so strong just focus on this and stop gangbanging ot combat-ex. Sure he did smth childish but you have no reason not to act mature yourself...

There is a difference between someone sincerely apologizing and then people slowly forgiving them and someone who repeatedly denied any wrongdoing, then a full year later still asks his opponents to intentionally lose to him and trade wins in exchange. Do you really not see the difference here?

Also, when someone acts a certain way, gets caught, and then doesn't change how he acts at all, how can you expect people to forgive him? Plus, a year of flaming and this was his first real "apology" for it, and even in the apology it looks like he's trying to martyr himself and make it look like TL is unnecessarily attacking him and forcing him to stop making videos. It's ridiculous.
@Hot_Bid on Twitter - ESPORTS life since 2010 - http://i.imgur.com/U2psw.png
Butigroove
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
Seychelles2061 Posts
June 17 2009 20:42 GMT
#77
On June 18 2009 05:37 Hot_Bid wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 18 2009 05:17 disciple wrote:
well he screwed it up badly, but the year long flaming that Hot_Bid was talking about in the previous thread is just not necessary. I agree that the forgiveness must come later but think about it the other way. Sooner or later you will all become parents, and when your kids lie to you about smth which they eventually will do, you will most likely beat them, forbid them to watch tv for a week and thats it. If your so called love to the game and to fair play is so strong just focus on this and stop gangbanging ot combat-ex. Sure he did smth childish but you have no reason not to act mature yourself...

There is a difference between someone sincerely apologizing and then people slowly forgiving them and someone who repeatedly denied any wrongdoing, then a full year later still asks his opponents to intentionally lose to him and trade wins in exchange. Do you really not see the difference here?

Also, when someone acts a certain way, gets caught, and then doesn't change how he acts at all, how can you expect people to forgive him? Plus, a year of flaming and this was his first real "apology" for it, and even in the apology it looks like he's trying to martyr himself and make it look like TL is unnecessarily attacking him and forcing him to stop making videos. It's ridiculous.

I have a theory that this might actually make retards not visit TL, and thus imporve forum quality/less work for mods. THANK YOU COMBAT-EX!
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VIB
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
Brazil3567 Posts
June 17 2009 20:50 GMT
#78
On June 18 2009 05:42 Butigroove wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 18 2009 05:37 Hot_Bid wrote:
On June 18 2009 05:17 disciple wrote:
well he screwed it up badly, but the year long flaming that Hot_Bid was talking about in the previous thread is just not necessary. I agree that the forgiveness must come later but think about it the other way. Sooner or later you will all become parents, and when your kids lie to you about smth which they eventually will do, you will most likely beat them, forbid them to watch tv for a week and thats it. If your so called love to the game and to fair play is so strong just focus on this and stop gangbanging ot combat-ex. Sure he did smth childish but you have no reason not to act mature yourself...

There is a difference between someone sincerely apologizing and then people slowly forgiving them and someone who repeatedly denied any wrongdoing, then a full year later still asks his opponents to intentionally lose to him and trade wins in exchange. Do you really not see the difference here?

Also, when someone acts a certain way, gets caught, and then doesn't change how he acts at all, how can you expect people to forgive him? Plus, a year of flaming and this was his first real "apology" for it, and even in the apology it looks like he's trying to martyr himself and make it look like TL is unnecessarily attacking him and forcing him to stop making videos. It's ridiculous.

I have a theory that this might actually make retards not visit TL, and thus imporve forum quality/less work for mods. THANK YOU COMBAT-EX!
Haha! That's a great way to see the bright side of things. Combat is a tard but at least he contributes and keeping TL clean from other tards who follow him :p
Great people talk about ideas. Average people talk about things. Small people talk about other people.
pyrogenetix
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
China5094 Posts
June 17 2009 20:52 GMT
#79
he's an average player that markets himself to be something great and gets a following of new players and then uses builds/strats that only work vs low level players so he doesn't really help at all
Yea that looks just like Kang Min... amazing game sense... and uses mind games well, but has the micro of a washed up progamer.
Chill
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
Calgary25979 Posts
June 17 2009 20:57 GMT
#80
On June 18 2009 05:17 disciple wrote:
well he screwed it up badly, but the year long flaming that Hot_Bid was talking about in the previous thread is just not necessary. I agree that the forgiveness must come later but think about it the other way. Sooner or later you will all become parents, and when your kids lie to you about smth which they eventually will do, you will most likely beat them, forbid them to watch tv for a week and thats it. If your so called love to the game and to fair play is so strong just focus on this and stop gangbanging ot combat-ex. Sure he did smth childish but you have no reason not to act mature yourself...

Combat-Ex was caught abusing two weeks ago. This is a year-long flaming.
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