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pyrogenetix
China5095 Posts
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disciple
9070 Posts
On June 18 2009 05:57 Chill wrote: Combat-Ex was caught abusing two weeks ago. This is a year-long flaming. Well you cant stop him making his videos, but you can just ignore his efforts. Why are you wasting your time with him anyway? Your points make sense, everything you say is completely reasonable but still its just not necessary - hackers and abusers will always exist on every level even on competitive. I'm not defending him and not saying "just let him be". Ignore him and dont let him in your house, thats all imho. The community is too large to bother so much about a random guy (maybe combat-ex is not completely random but still) who is cheating since forever and uploading his videos on youtube. What are you trying to achieve anyway? Combat-Ex is not welcome to TL anyway, so this must be done with some kind of educational purpose - "dont do like combat-ex, cause he is a fag and the gaming world must get rid of guys like him"? Believe me I'm with you on everything and I support hot_bid about everything he said, but putting the banner on the main page, even discussing this so inside out is just... an overkill imho. I dont think all this will help in anyway to clean the gaming from the hackers | ||
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Etherone
United States1898 Posts
In any sport cheating is an outrage, it is inexcusable, it undermines the sport, and it ridicules the community especially a community so heavily based on sportsmanship. apology was crap, and is worthless until he actually does something, and even then it is still worthless because it is a half ass attempt at acting like the victim of an assault by TL, it also suggests that it is not such a bad, or so uncommon occurrence to ask a friend to give you 1 win for a few points to get to the next rank. He did it so he could play the martyr, keep all of his fans, rally them behind him, and seeing as he is mentally inept he might have even thought that this would help TL like him. He insults TL's intelligence and mine by association with that ridiculous piece of shit he calls an apology. If he loves the game and supports the community, and isn't simply after some notion of E-fame, he will keep playing, without abusing, until enough time has passed that it is evident he has reformed his ways, and regrets his idiocy. unfortunately i don't see that happening, especially since he is unwilling to stream his games. | ||
Chill
Calgary25981 Posts
On June 18 2009 06:08 disciple wrote: Well you cant stop him making his videos, but you can just ignore his efforts. Why are you wasting your time with him anyway? Your points make sense, everything you say is completely reasonable but still its just not necessary - hackers and abusers will always exist on every level even on competitive. I'm not defending him and not saying "just let him be". Ignore him and dont let him in your house, thats all imho. The community is too large to bother so much about a random guy (maybe combat-ex is not completely random but still) who is cheating since forever and uploading his videos on youtube. What are you trying to achieve anyway? Combat-Ex is not welcome to TL anyway, so this must be done with some kind of educational purpose - "dont do like combat-ex, cause he is a fag and the gaming world must get rid of guys like him"? Believe me I'm with you on everything and I support hot_bid about everything he said, but putting the banner on the main page, even discussing this so inside out is just... an overkill imho. I dont think all this will help in anyway to clean the gaming from the hackers You are saying if we stop hackers and abusers, more will fill their ranks. I think that's simply not true. If people realize he abuses to the level he says he is, then maybe they will realize his is not sound and will turn to better sources for information. | ||
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VIB
Brazil3567 Posts
On June 18 2009 06:08 disciple wrote: The path of the righteous man is beset on all sides by the inequities of the selfish and the tyranny of evil men. Blessed is he who, in the name of charity and good will, shepherds the weak through the valley of the darkness. For he is truly his brother's keeper and the finder of lost children. And I will strike down upon thee with great vengeance and furious anger those who attempt to poison and destroy my brothers. And you will know I am the Lord when I lay my vengeance upon you.Well you cant stop him making his videos, but you can just ignore his efforts. Why are you wasting your time with him anyway? Your points make sense, everything you say is completely reasonable but still its just not necessary - hackers and abusers will always exist on every level even on competitive. I'm not defending him and not saying "just let him be". Ignore him and dont let him in your house, thats all imho. The community is too large to bother so much about a random guy (maybe combat-ex is not completely random but still) who is cheating since forever and uploading his videos on youtube. What are you trying to achieve anyway? Combat-Ex is not welcome to TL anyway, so this must be done with some kind of educational purpose - "dont do like combat-ex, cause he is a fag and the gaming world must get rid of guys like him"? Believe me I'm with you on everything and I support hot_bid about everything he said, but putting the banner on the main page, even discussing this so inside out is just... an overkill imho. I dont think all this will help in anyway to clean the gaming from the hackers Ezekiel 25:17 + Show Spoiler + | ||
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WhuazGoodJaggah
Lesotho777 Posts
On June 18 2009 05:32 Hot_Bid wrote: Would you like me to provide an example that is less serious than murder, and we can debate which is more severe, abusing on ICCup or taking steroids in high school sports (he's helping the fans so i don't care!), or cheating in high school (he's helping his friends get better grades and get into college so i dont care!), etc. But thank you for pointing out that taking freewins on a ladder is not actually killing someone, I was not aware of this difference when I made the analogy. I can't believe I didn't see that. murdering a murder doesnt make the murder better at all. if a fellow student is cheating you dont need to "blab" it to the teacher, you can just tell him that you dont like it if you really have the need to do so. I like never cheated in school but i didnt care if someone else did, why should i? its not like that this will change much anyway, but if he wrote his name under my work i'd fuck him up. | ||
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Barbapapa
Sweden8 Posts
I have no idea why you are so freaking mad at combat-ex. He is a bad player... SO FUCKING WHAT? I feel so stupid that I listened to him at the first place. NO! He's fucking awesome at what he is doing, I'm not only learning from his videos, but it's mostly entertaining. And isn't that what matters? Well, I'm not gonna work as a SC player when I get older, so why does it fucking matter if he might be teaching me wrong. I think it's you who are only jealous at his great work of posting VODs. And I don't get the videos less entertaining, if he has abused. You all seem to forget, that starcraft is used for entertainment. | ||
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SpiritoftheTunA
United States20903 Posts
On June 18 2009 06:17 VIB wrote: The path of the righteous man is beset on all sides by the inequities of the selfish and the tyranny of evil men. Blessed is he who, in the name of charity and good will, shepherds the weak through the valley of the darkness. For he is truly his brother's keeper and the finder of lost children. And I will strike down upon thee with great vengeance and furious anger those who attempt to poison and destroy my brothers. And you will know I am the Lord when I lay my vengeance upon you. Ezekiel 25:17 + Show Spoiler + http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CMnpu6rdabg fucken made up quotes | ||
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VIB
Brazil3567 Posts
On June 18 2009 06:21 Barbapapa wrote: - You think he is teaching you and improving your skillsOk I have no idea why you are so freaking mad at combat-ex. He is a bad player... SO FUCKING WHAT? I feel so stupid that I listened to him at the first place. NO! He's fucking awesome at what he is doing, I'm not only learning from his videos, but it's mostly entertaining. And isn't that what matters? Well, I'm not gonna work as a SC player when I get older, so why does it fucking matter if he might be teaching me wrong. I think it's you who are only jealous at his great work of posting VODs. And I don't get the videos less entertaining, if he has abused. You all seem to forget, that starcraft is used for entertainment. - He is not, he is bad, he is teaching you wrong - If in all of his hundreds of videos all he have said was "if you wanna learn sc watch this vods from stylish and day9 etc" then he would have done 10000x a better good for the community - Instead he rather teach crap to people only to make others think he is good - He is fucking the community - We care about the community And I repeat myself: + Show Spoiler + http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CMnpu6rdabg | ||
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Avidkeystamper
United States8552 Posts
To hate someone is not he same as getting mad about it, we're mostly mad at the people that supports his actions and try to justify or downplay it. | ||
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Barbapapa
Sweden8 Posts
And you say he is fucking the community??? Then I must say you all got pretty owned.. (raped, ayye??) Anyways, it's really retarded. If that statement is based on the fact that you said in your comment, that he would tell his viewers to watch stylish and day9 to learn starcraft - your brain must be really far up your ass. | ||
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nAi.PrOtOsS
Canada784 Posts
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KOFgokuon
United States14898 Posts
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VIB
Brazil3567 Posts
On June 18 2009 06:39 Barbapapa wrote: 1) You think that. You could be much better watching decent players.1) He is improving my skills a lot, you cannot deny that. 2) And you say he is fucking the community??? Then I must say you all got pretty owned.. (raped, ayye??) 3) your brain must be really far up your ass. 2) You're part of it  3) At least my fart is smart! | ||
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Barbapapa
Sweden8 Posts
On June 18 2009 06:45 VIB wrote: 1) You think that. You could be much better watching decent players. 2) You're part of it 3) At least my fart is smart! 1) I don't believe that he is famous because he is a superawesome trainer, mostly because he has a much bigger sense humor than these other vod-posters. 2) Booo, I created this account 1 hour ago. 3) I guess... | ||
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MamiyaOtaru
United States1687 Posts
On June 18 2009 06:39 Barbapapa wrote: He is improving my skills a lot, you cannot deny that. And you say he is fucking the community??? Then I must say you all got pretty owned.. (raped, ayye??) Anyways, it's really retarded. If that statement is based on the fact that you said in your comment, that he would tell his viewers to watch stylish and day9 to learn starcraft - your brain must be really far up your ass. You are improving your own skills by playing. Your skills would improve even more by watching a competent player. Sure, someone might praise a tutor for raising a student's grade from failing to barely passing, but if there are better tutors out there who could raise the student's grade to above average, why would anyone use the first tutor? Because he has good advertisements? That's combatEx. His students may not be failing, but they are still getting shortchanged. And then they keep coming here and being all proud of how combatEx has helped them not fail. "Now I'm getting Ds instead of Fs and it's all because of combatEx! He's a great tutor stop shitting on him!" | ||
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Zapdos_Smithh
Canada2620 Posts
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VIB
Brazil3567 Posts
On June 18 2009 06:55 Barbapapa wrote: The whole community of starcraft players. Not only this website. You're part of it, he is screwing you up. You just don't know it yet 2) Booo, I created this account 1 hour ago. | ||
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ZeroCartin
Costa Rica2390 Posts
And now this bullshit is happening. WTF. I remember a couple of years ago I started playing starcraft, and I couldnt find anything that could help me alot *apart from pro-gamers, but no actual commentating*. Then I found this guy that posted his games on youtube. I watched them weekly, and understood some of the really basic fundamentals of starcraft. I look at them now, and sure, there are alot of holes in his vids, but they still help beginners imo. This is a community for learning on starcraft, not for bashing on people, at least not for 2 fkn years in a row, thats the time ive been here. | ||
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Barbapapa
Sweden8 Posts
On June 18 2009 06:58 MamiyaOtaru wrote: You are improving your own skills by playing. Your skills would improve even more by watching a competent player. Sure, someone might praise a tutor for raising a student's grade from failing to barely passing, but if there are better tutors out there who could raise the student's grade to above average, why would anyone use the first tutor? Because he has good advertisements? That's combatEx. His students may not be failing, but they are still getting shortchanged. And then they keep coming here and being all proud of how combatEx has helped them not fail. "Now I'm getting Ds instead of Fs and it's all because of combatEx! He's a great tutor stop shitting on him!" Dude... Comparing Combat-ex and other Vod-posters is like comparing South Park with Fox-news. When I watch South Park, I watch it because it's entertaining, not because I learn stuff from it. And that is exactly why I rather watch Combat. Starcraft isn't science, IT IS ENTERTAINMENT! | ||
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