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pyrogenetix
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
China5094 Posts
June 17 2009 21:03 GMT
#81
wow hollllyyyy shit i had no idea this little fucking noob had so many supporters hahaha how the fuck can he have 4 thousand subscribers on youtube? even I play better than him LOL
Yea that looks just like Kang Min... amazing game sense... and uses mind games well, but has the micro of a washed up progamer.
disciple
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
9070 Posts
June 17 2009 21:08 GMT
#82
On June 18 2009 05:57 Chill wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 18 2009 05:17 disciple wrote:
well he screwed it up badly, but the year long flaming that Hot_Bid was talking about in the previous thread is just not necessary. I agree that the forgiveness must come later but think about it the other way. Sooner or later you will all become parents, and when your kids lie to you about smth which they eventually will do, you will most likely beat them, forbid them to watch tv for a week and thats it. If your so called love to the game and to fair play is so strong just focus on this and stop gangbanging ot combat-ex. Sure he did smth childish but you have no reason not to act mature yourself...

Combat-Ex was caught abusing two weeks ago. This is a year-long flaming.

Well you cant stop him making his videos, but you can just ignore his efforts. Why are you wasting your time with him anyway? Your points make sense, everything you say is completely reasonable but still its just not necessary - hackers and abusers will always exist on every level even on competitive. I'm not defending him and not saying "just let him be". Ignore him and dont let him in your house, thats all imho. The community is too large to bother so much about a random guy (maybe combat-ex is not completely random but still) who is cheating since forever and uploading his videos on youtube.
What are you trying to achieve anyway? Combat-Ex is not welcome to TL anyway, so this must be done with some kind of educational purpose - "dont do like combat-ex, cause he is a fag and the gaming world must get rid of guys like him"? Believe me I'm with you on everything and I support hot_bid about everything he said, but putting the banner on the main page, even discussing this so inside out is just... an overkill imho. I dont think all this will help in anyway to clean the gaming from the hackers
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Etherone
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States1898 Posts
June 17 2009 21:15 GMT
#83
if only his user realized that the reason they went from d- to d+ was they were massing games and getting the mechanics down, not com-ex's "instructional videos"

In any sport cheating is an outrage, it is inexcusable, it undermines the sport, and it ridicules the community especially a community so heavily based on sportsmanship.

apology was crap, and is worthless until he actually does something, and even then it is still worthless because it is a half ass attempt at acting like the victim of an assault by TL, it also suggests that it is not such a bad, or so uncommon occurrence to ask a friend to give you 1 win for a few points to get to the next rank. He did it so he could play the martyr, keep all of his fans, rally them behind him, and seeing as he is mentally inept he might have even thought that this would help TL like him. He insults TL's intelligence and mine by association with that ridiculous piece of shit he calls an apology.

If he loves the game and supports the community, and isn't simply after some notion of E-fame, he will keep playing, without abusing, until enough time has passed that it is evident he has reformed his ways, and regrets his idiocy. unfortunately i don't see that happening, especially since he is unwilling to stream his games.
Chill
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
Calgary25979 Posts
June 17 2009 21:17 GMT
#84
On June 18 2009 06:08 disciple wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 18 2009 05:57 Chill wrote:
On June 18 2009 05:17 disciple wrote:
well he screwed it up badly, but the year long flaming that Hot_Bid was talking about in the previous thread is just not necessary. I agree that the forgiveness must come later but think about it the other way. Sooner or later you will all become parents, and when your kids lie to you about smth which they eventually will do, you will most likely beat them, forbid them to watch tv for a week and thats it. If your so called love to the game and to fair play is so strong just focus on this and stop gangbanging ot combat-ex. Sure he did smth childish but you have no reason not to act mature yourself...

Combat-Ex was caught abusing two weeks ago. This is a year-long flaming.

Well you cant stop him making his videos, but you can just ignore his efforts. Why are you wasting your time with him anyway? Your points make sense, everything you say is completely reasonable but still its just not necessary - hackers and abusers will always exist on every level even on competitive. I'm not defending him and not saying "just let him be". Ignore him and dont let him in your house, thats all imho. The community is too large to bother so much about a random guy (maybe combat-ex is not completely random but still) who is cheating since forever and uploading his videos on youtube.
What are you trying to achieve anyway? Combat-Ex is not welcome to TL anyway, so this must be done with some kind of educational purpose - "dont do like combat-ex, cause he is a fag and the gaming world must get rid of guys like him"? Believe me I'm with you on everything and I support hot_bid about everything he said, but putting the banner on the main page, even discussing this so inside out is just... an overkill imho. I dont think all this will help in anyway to clean the gaming from the hackers

You are saying if we stop hackers and abusers, more will fill their ranks. I think that's simply not true. If people realize he abuses to the level he says he is, then maybe they will realize his is not sound and will turn to better sources for information.
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VIB
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
Brazil3567 Posts
June 17 2009 21:17 GMT
#85
On June 18 2009 06:08 disciple wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 18 2009 05:57 Chill wrote:
On June 18 2009 05:17 disciple wrote:
well he screwed it up badly, but the year long flaming that Hot_Bid was talking about in the previous thread is just not necessary. I agree that the forgiveness must come later but think about it the other way. Sooner or later you will all become parents, and when your kids lie to you about smth which they eventually will do, you will most likely beat them, forbid them to watch tv for a week and thats it. If your so called love to the game and to fair play is so strong just focus on this and stop gangbanging ot combat-ex. Sure he did smth childish but you have no reason not to act mature yourself...

Combat-Ex was caught abusing two weeks ago. This is a year-long flaming.

Well you cant stop him making his videos, but you can just ignore his efforts. Why are you wasting your time with him anyway? Your points make sense, everything you say is completely reasonable but still its just not necessary - hackers and abusers will always exist on every level even on competitive. I'm not defending him and not saying "just let him be". Ignore him and dont let him in your house, thats all imho. The community is too large to bother so much about a random guy (maybe combat-ex is not completely random but still) who is cheating since forever and uploading his videos on youtube.
What are you trying to achieve anyway? Combat-Ex is not welcome to TL anyway, so this must be done with some kind of educational purpose - "dont do like combat-ex, cause he is a fag and the gaming world must get rid of guys like him"? Believe me I'm with you on everything and I support hot_bid about everything he said, but putting the banner on the main page, even discussing this so inside out is just... an overkill imho. I dont think all this will help in anyway to clean the gaming from the hackers
The path of the righteous man is beset on all sides by the inequities of the selfish and the tyranny of evil men. Blessed is he who, in the name of charity and good will, shepherds the weak through the valley of the darkness. For he is truly his brother's keeper and the finder of lost children. And I will strike down upon thee with great vengeance and furious anger those who attempt to poison and destroy my brothers. And you will know I am the Lord when I lay my vengeance upon you.

Ezekiel 25:17

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WhuazGoodJaggah
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Lesotho777 Posts
June 17 2009 21:19 GMT
#86
On June 18 2009 05:32 Hot_Bid wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 18 2009 05:23 Megalisk wrote:
On June 18 2009 05:17 Hot_Bid wrote:
On June 18 2009 05:09 Megalisk wrote:
On June 18 2009 01:13 TheFoReveRwaR wrote:
On June 18 2009 00:54 Megalisk wrote:
On June 18 2009 00:45 Combat-EX wrote:
im not blaming anyone for what ive done...

and just to clear it up....i didn't post that ad, and i have no idea who did

this video is literally exactly what you guys have asked
and i made it...posted it on youtube for all my fans to see

if this doesn't make u guys happy,
i dont know what else i can do.


Thanks for the vid man, that's pretty brave, honestly, your vids are what got me into 1v1 starcraft instead of playing BGH/Fastest.

You have painfully low standards.

Cause I don't care about his little shenanigans, He just posts videos to help noobs and they do. He is a liar and he knows he isn't B-, but hes just giving some help.

Unfortunately, helping someone isn't a shield against criticism. For instance, OJ Simpson entertained millions of people with his skills as a running back in the National Football League. He then went on to murder two people. But I'm sure he helped people when he was a running back. This doesn't mean we can't say that his murders are wrong. Why are you supporting murder?

Except this isn't murder, its playing a fucking computer game.

Would you like me to provide an example that is less serious than murder, and we can debate which is more severe, abusing on ICCup or taking steroids in high school sports (he's helping the fans so i don't care!), or cheating in high school (he's helping his friends get better grades and get into college so i dont care!), etc.

But thank you for pointing out that taking freewins on a ladder is not actually killing someone, I was not aware of this difference when I made the analogy. I can't believe I didn't see that.


murdering a murder doesnt make the murder better at all.

if a fellow student is cheating you dont need to "blab" it to the teacher, you can just tell him that you dont like it if you really have the need to do so. I like never cheated in school but i didnt care if someone else did, why should i? its not like that this will change much anyway, but if he wrote his name under my work i'd fuck him up.
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Barbapapa
Profile Joined June 2009
Sweden8 Posts
June 17 2009 21:21 GMT
#87
Ok

I have no idea why you are so freaking mad at combat-ex. He is a bad player... SO FUCKING WHAT? I feel so stupid that I listened to him at the first place. NO! He's fucking awesome at what he is doing, I'm not only learning from his videos, but it's mostly entertaining. And isn't that what matters? Well, I'm not gonna work as a SC player when I get older, so why does it fucking matter if he might be teaching me wrong. I think it's you who are only jealous at his great work of posting VODs. And I don't get the videos less entertaining, if he has abused.

You all seem to forget, that starcraft is used for entertainment.
SpiritoftheTunA
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
United States20903 Posts
June 17 2009 21:22 GMT
#88
On June 18 2009 06:17 VIB wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 18 2009 06:08 disciple wrote:
On June 18 2009 05:57 Chill wrote:
On June 18 2009 05:17 disciple wrote:
well he screwed it up badly, but the year long flaming that Hot_Bid was talking about in the previous thread is just not necessary. I agree that the forgiveness must come later but think about it the other way. Sooner or later you will all become parents, and when your kids lie to you about smth which they eventually will do, you will most likely beat them, forbid them to watch tv for a week and thats it. If your so called love to the game and to fair play is so strong just focus on this and stop gangbanging ot combat-ex. Sure he did smth childish but you have no reason not to act mature yourself...

Combat-Ex was caught abusing two weeks ago. This is a year-long flaming.

Well you cant stop him making his videos, but you can just ignore his efforts. Why are you wasting your time with him anyway? Your points make sense, everything you say is completely reasonable but still its just not necessary - hackers and abusers will always exist on every level even on competitive. I'm not defending him and not saying "just let him be". Ignore him and dont let him in your house, thats all imho. The community is too large to bother so much about a random guy (maybe combat-ex is not completely random but still) who is cheating since forever and uploading his videos on youtube.
What are you trying to achieve anyway? Combat-Ex is not welcome to TL anyway, so this must be done with some kind of educational purpose - "dont do like combat-ex, cause he is a fag and the gaming world must get rid of guys like him"? Believe me I'm with you on everything and I support hot_bid about everything he said, but putting the banner on the main page, even discussing this so inside out is just... an overkill imho. I dont think all this will help in anyway to clean the gaming from the hackers
The path of the righteous man is beset on all sides by the inequities of the selfish and the tyranny of evil men. Blessed is he who, in the name of charity and good will, shepherds the weak through the valley of the darkness. For he is truly his brother's keeper and the finder of lost children. And I will strike down upon thee with great vengeance and furious anger those who attempt to poison and destroy my brothers. And you will know I am the Lord when I lay my vengeance upon you.

Ezekiel 25:17

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VIB
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
Brazil3567 Posts
June 17 2009 21:25 GMT
#89
On June 18 2009 06:21 Barbapapa wrote:
Ok

I have no idea why you are so freaking mad at combat-ex. He is a bad player... SO FUCKING WHAT? I feel so stupid that I listened to him at the first place. NO! He's fucking awesome at what he is doing, I'm not only learning from his videos, but it's mostly entertaining. And isn't that what matters? Well, I'm not gonna work as a SC player when I get older, so why does it fucking matter if he might be teaching me wrong. I think it's you who are only jealous at his great work of posting VODs. And I don't get the videos less entertaining, if he has abused.

You all seem to forget, that starcraft is used for entertainment.
- You think he is teaching you and improving your skills
- He is not, he is bad, he is teaching you wrong
- If in all of his hundreds of videos all he have said was "if you wanna learn sc watch this vods from stylish and day9 etc" then he would have done 10000x a better good for the community
- Instead he rather teach crap to people only to make others think he is good
- He is fucking the community
- We care about the community

And I repeat myself:
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Great people talk about ideas. Average people talk about things. Small people talk about other people.
Avidkeystamper
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States8552 Posts
June 17 2009 21:36 GMT
#90
I don't think anyone's mad at him, people just don't like him because of the way he acts and presents himself to put it mildly.
To hate someone is not he same as getting mad about it, we're mostly mad at the people that supports his actions and try to justify or downplay it.
Jaedong
Barbapapa
Profile Joined June 2009
Sweden8 Posts
June 17 2009 21:39 GMT
#91
He is improving my skills a lot, you cannot deny that.

And you say he is fucking the community??? Then I must say you all got pretty owned.. (raped, ayye??)
Anyways, it's really retarded. If that statement is based on the fact that you said in your comment, that he would tell his viewers to watch stylish and day9 to learn starcraft - your brain must be really far up your ass.
nAi.PrOtOsS
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
Canada784 Posts
June 17 2009 21:40 GMT
#92
10 games abused he said on his apology vid? Yea IM SURE!!
KOFgokuon
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States14893 Posts
June 17 2009 21:41 GMT
#93
LOL
VIB
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
Brazil3567 Posts
June 17 2009 21:45 GMT
#94
On June 18 2009 06:39 Barbapapa wrote:
1) He is improving my skills a lot, you cannot deny that.

2) And you say he is fucking the community??? Then I must say you all got pretty owned.. (raped, ayye??)
3) your brain must be really far up your ass.
1) You think that. You could be much better watching decent players.
2) You're part of it
3) At least my fart is smart!
Great people talk about ideas. Average people talk about things. Small people talk about other people.
Barbapapa
Profile Joined June 2009
Sweden8 Posts
June 17 2009 21:55 GMT
#95
On June 18 2009 06:45 VIB wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 18 2009 06:39 Barbapapa wrote:
1) He is improving my skills a lot, you cannot deny that.

2) And you say he is fucking the community??? Then I must say you all got pretty owned.. (raped, ayye??)
3) your brain must be really far up your ass.
1) You think that. You could be much better watching decent players.
2) You're part of it
3) At least my fart is smart!

1) I don't believe that he is famous because he is a superawesome trainer, mostly because he has a much bigger sense humor than these other vod-posters.
2) Booo, I created this account 1 hour ago.
3) I guess...
MamiyaOtaru
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States1687 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-06-17 22:03:32
June 17 2009 21:58 GMT
#96
On June 18 2009 06:39 Barbapapa wrote:
He is improving my skills a lot, you cannot deny that.

And you say he is fucking the community??? Then I must say you all got pretty owned.. (raped, ayye??)
Anyways, it's really retarded. If that statement is based on the fact that you said in your comment, that he would tell his viewers to watch stylish and day9 to learn starcraft - your brain must be really far up your ass.

You are improving your own skills by playing.

Your skills would improve even more by watching a competent player.

Sure, someone might praise a tutor for raising a student's grade from failing to barely passing, but if there are better tutors out there who could raise the student's grade to above average, why would anyone use the first tutor? Because he has good advertisements? That's combatEx.

His students may not be failing, but they are still getting shortchanged. And then they keep coming here and being all proud of how combatEx has helped them not fail. "Now I'm getting Ds instead of Fs and it's all because of combatEx! He's a great tutor stop shitting on him!"
Zapdos_Smithh
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Canada2620 Posts
June 17 2009 21:58 GMT
#97
Eh, I forgive him.
VIB
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
Brazil3567 Posts
June 17 2009 22:00 GMT
#98
On June 18 2009 06:55 Barbapapa wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 18 2009 06:45 VIB wrote:
On June 18 2009 06:39 Barbapapa wrote:
1) He is improving my skills a lot, you cannot deny that.

2) And you say he is fucking the community??? Then I must say you all got pretty owned.. (raped, ayye??)
3) your brain must be really far up your ass.
1) You think that. You could be much better watching decent players.
2) You're part of it
3) At least my fart is smart!

2) Booo, I created this account 1 hour ago.
The whole community of starcraft players. Not only this website. You're part of it, he is screwing you up. You just don't know it yet
Great people talk about ideas. Average people talk about things. Small people talk about other people.
ZeroCartin
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Costa Rica2390 Posts
June 17 2009 22:04 GMT
#99
I remember one thread like 2 weeks ago where almost all TL asked combat-ex to post this really self embarrasing video in exchange for "forgiveness" for TL.

And now this bullshit is happening. WTF.

I remember a couple of years ago I started playing starcraft, and I couldnt find anything that could help me alot *apart from pro-gamers, but no actual commentating*. Then I found this guy that posted his games on youtube. I watched them weekly, and understood some of the really basic fundamentals of starcraft. I look at them now, and sure, there are alot of holes in his vids, but they still help beginners imo.

This is a community for learning on starcraft, not for bashing on people, at least not for 2 fkn years in a row, thats the time ive been here.
"My sister is on vacation in Costa Rica right now. I hope she stays a while because she's a miserable cunt." -pubbanana
Barbapapa
Profile Joined June 2009
Sweden8 Posts
June 17 2009 22:11 GMT
#100
On June 18 2009 06:58 MamiyaOtaru wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 18 2009 06:39 Barbapapa wrote:
He is improving my skills a lot, you cannot deny that.

And you say he is fucking the community??? Then I must say you all got pretty owned.. (raped, ayye??)
Anyways, it's really retarded. If that statement is based on the fact that you said in your comment, that he would tell his viewers to watch stylish and day9 to learn starcraft - your brain must be really far up your ass.

You are improving your own skills by playing.

Your skills would improve even more by watching a competent player.

Sure, someone might praise a tutor for raising a student's grade from failing to barely passing, but if there are better tutors out there who could raise the student's grade to above average, why would anyone use the first tutor? Because he has good advertisements? That's combatEx.

His students may not be failing, but they are still getting shortchanged. And then they keep coming here and being all proud of how combatEx has helped them not fail. "Now I'm getting Ds instead of Fs and it's all because of combatEx! He's a great tutor stop shitting on him!"


Dude...

Comparing Combat-ex and other Vod-posters is like comparing South Park with Fox-news. When I watch South Park, I watch it because it's entertaining, not because I learn stuff from it. And that is exactly why I rather watch Combat. Starcraft isn't science, IT IS ENTERTAINMENT!
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