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{CC}StealthBlue
United States41117 Posts
Say a Christian tells a Buddhist that he/she is going to hell because they do not believe in Jesus Christ or God etc. Wait a minute so what happened to all those people before the time of Christ etc. Or the people before Moses, or during the Ice Age. And the same question vice versa. Such as Islam, and more importantly Judaism. Where was the Christian heaven which ultimately derived itself from Judaic teachings...? Because I'm sure the two religions have differing views of Heaven etc.  | ||
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Caller
Poland8075 Posts
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Heyoka
Katowice25012 Posts
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plated.rawr
Norway1676 Posts
That should about cover it. | ||
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rushz0rz
Canada5300 Posts
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dekuschrub
United States2069 Posts
idk fo sho tho | ||
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s.a.y
Croatia3840 Posts
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Carnivorous Sheep
Baa?21243 Posts
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Aqo[il]
Israel183 Posts
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samachking
Bahrain4949 Posts
On May 13 2009 17:09 Aqo[il] wrote: A grain of salt for you, there is no Hell in Judaism, only Garden of Eden which is somewhat similar to Heaven... but not really the same. Yup, Also Islam states that they are a gazillion of prophets before Mohammed and if you follow any of those (including Jesus and Ebraham) its A-OK as long as you keep up to date. Lots of religions have a vision of the afterlife but not all have a vision of hell, Hindus dont believe in hell, but believe in some sort of heaven. Eastern religions are not concerned with Heaven and hell but most of the time a cycle of suffering and you try to break out of the cycle, they are a lot more philosophical, Buddhism and Hinduism the biggest two fall into these categories. | ||
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ReCharge
Philippines505 Posts
On May 13 2009 17:09 Carnivorous Sheep wrote: Limbo, yo. First circle of Hell. You get to run around doing nothing and occasionally guide foolish mortals to through the deeper circles of Hell! Good ol' Dante. What book what that again? Damn, I loved that book. But I lost it, and now, I wanna read it again. | ||
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Navane
Netherlands2748 Posts
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HeyitsClay
Canada336 Posts
so what i say is fuck it who cares is everyone is wrong live ur life jesus fucked up and hes not in hell obvs | ||
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samachking
Bahrain4949 Posts
On May 13 2009 17:25 Navane wrote: There were no people before judaism, because the world is only 3000 year old. Where could those people have lived if there was no earth? well? Get your shit straight man, Judiasm doesnt exist, its just a conspiracy no? I mean the world is only 3k years old, then how is Judiasm 4k years old? | ||
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inReacH
Sweden1612 Posts
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stet_tcl
Greece319 Posts
All the rules and sins and heaven and hell stuff is complete bs in my opinion. Whats good about christianity is what Jesus taught like help and love each other, don't hurt others, you dont need earthly possessions to be happy etc. In my opinion, if believing in a religion makes you feel good and helps you become a better person then go for it (NOT because you parents taught you that way or sth) But dont take all that stuff literally! | ||
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Guilford
Australia290 Posts
On May 13 2009 17:24 ReCharge wrote: What book what that again? Damn, I loved that book. But I lost it, and now, I wanna read it again. Is it the Divine Comedy? | ||
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igotmyown
United States4291 Posts
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extracheez
Australia151 Posts
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Adeny
Norway1233 Posts
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hugitout
United States379 Posts
On May 13 2009 16:56 {CC}StealthBlue wrote: Wait a minute so what happened to all those people before the time of Christ etc. Or the people before Moses, or during the Ice Age. c. they are all burning inside the core of the earth keeping us warm and cozy, its a scientific fact | ||
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distant_voice
Germany2521 Posts
that's a kiddie question. if you look at religion like this you're not going to get anything out of it. if you take such a sophisticated text as the bible at face value it has to sound stupid. it's like dismissing a novel as rubbish by saying "it's not realistic" or a scientific text by saying "it's boring". as long as you look at religion like this just don't bother with it/talking about it. nobody forces you to believe, and if you run into people that tell you that you won't go to heaven if you don't believe in god just don't take them seriously. it's stupid and you can't argue with them anyway. just remember that judging something you don't understand is stupid too. | ||
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Kim_Hyun_Han
706 Posts
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Railxp
Hong Kong1313 Posts
On May 13 2009 19:31 distant_voice wrote: that's a kiddie question. if you look at religion like this you're not going to get anything out of it. if you take such a sophisticated text as the bible at face value it has to sound stupid. it's like dismissing a novel as rubbish by saying "it's not realistic" or a scientific text by saying "it's boring". So don't question religion. And don't interpret the holy book based on what is written in it. You stoopid for doing so. On May 13 2009 19:31 distant_voice wrote: as long as you look at religion like this just don't bother with it/talking about it. nobody forces you to believe, and if you run into people that tell you that you won't go to heaven if you don't believe in god just don't take them seriously. it's stupid and you can't argue with them anyway. just remember that judging something you don't understand is stupid too. Don't share your analysis and questions, theists don't want to hear it. You stoopiiid for doing so. Wow fabulous water tight arguments. I wish i could end all debates with "you stooopiiid" | ||
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McCrank
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distant_voice
Germany2521 Posts
On May 13 2009 20:14 Railxp wrote: Allow me to put in the tl;dr So don't question religion. And don't interpret the holy book based on what is written in it. You stoopid for doing so. Don't share your analysis and questions, theists don't want to hear it. You stoopiiid for doing so. Wow fabulous water tight arguments. I wish i could end all debates with "you stooopiiid" do question religion and do share your analysis and questions, but put more effort into it and study harder before you criticise. I'm not a theist. I'm not even what people call religious myself. | ||
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Nytefish
United Kingdom4282 Posts
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LastWish
2013 Posts
One of interesting quotes from Tibetan Book of the Dead suggests that when you die entities come whose job it is to dismantle your ego -- what makes you the person who you are. If you are ready for them, they appear as angels but if you struggle they seem to be demons. | ||
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Chef
10810 Posts
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seppolevne
Canada1681 Posts
On May 13 2009 16:58 Caller wrote: lol atheism | ||
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Carnivorous Sheep
Baa?21243 Posts
Yeah, part one of the Comedy, Inferno. | ||
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Savio
United States1850 Posts
http://lds.org/ldsorg/v/index.jsp?vgnextoid=bbd508f54922d010VgnVCM1000004d82620aRCRD&locale=0&sourceId=1ec52f2324d98010VgnVCM1000004d82620a____ You can use the links for more info, scripture references and articles dedicated to the subject. Here's a few you can open up and read: http://lds.org/ldsorg/v/index.jsp?vgnextoid=2354fccf2b7db010VgnVCM1000004d82620aRCRD&locale=0&sourceId=e3cea1615ac0c010VgnVCM1000004d82620a____&hideNav=1 http://lds.org/ldsorg/v/index.jsp?vgnextoid=f318118dd536c010VgnVCM1000004d82620aRCRD&locale=0&sourceId=f0791c90483eb010VgnVCM1000004d82620a____&hideNav=1 http://lds.org/ldsorg/v/index.jsp?vgnextoid=2354fccf2b7db010VgnVCM1000004d82620aRCRD&locale=0&sourceId=2d99307e3584b010VgnVCM1000004d82620a____&hideNav=1 If the question is sincere, you can read the articles. Here is the opening paragraph of the first article: "Christian theologians have long wrestled with the question, What is the destiny of the countless billions who have lived and died with no knowledge of Jesus? With the Restoration of the gospel of Jesus Christ has come the understanding of how the unbaptized dead are redeemed and how God can be “a perfect, just God, and a merciful God also." | ||
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