Obama's first 100 days - Page 3

On April 30 2009 10:21 UmmTheHobo wrote:
YEAH LOWER TAXES INCREASE SPENDING!!!!!!

WOOT WOOT WOOT.

There is no flaw whatsoever in this plan.

On May 08 2009 04:42 ghostWriter wrote:


Learn about Keynes.

.Secondly, this macro control of the US Economy by the Government is appalling, and is not a constitutional function of the Federal Government.

To make all laws which shall be necessary and proper for carrying into execution the foregoing powers, and all other powers vested by this Constitution in the government of the United States, or in any department or officer thereof.

On May 08 2009 00:19 Aegraen wrote:


Actually, Keynesian economics never works. It's just a ruse to get the public to buy into the idea of greater government intervention. Japan and the Lost Decade? Oh, what about the New Deal which was a massive disaster and prolonged the Great Depression for a whole 12 years, at which point the unemployment rate midway through the New Deal actually went back above 20% for over 20+ months. Couple that with FDR's own Treasury Secretary writing in his journal how the New Deal failed horribly and all it did was add to the debt.

Sorry, Keynesian economics, does not work, never has, never will. It always ends up being a "We didn't spend enough, we have to spend more!" ad infinitum. There is never enough in Keynesian economics.

What is smart for the individual, is smart for Government.



So, let me see if I understand. You have no foundation for this statement, yet you testify to its truth? Have you tried taking a Logic course sometime?

Any facts, empirical data to support your hypothesis, anything?



How does it feel campaigning against all that America was founded upon?

Saying your transparent doesn't make it so. He lies squarely in your face (Reading off the teleprompter no doubt (Hi TOTUS)), says he's a constitutional lawyer, but then does everything he can to trash it, and here he is saying he is transparent and people buying into it? This is getting eerily similar to previous points in human history. I shall henceforth call Obama the Nero of America.

First off, no debate on the "Stimulus" bill, rammed through with no one reading it (Was impossible to read it). There goes his 5 day promise. Did he put it up online and let debate go through? Nope. He then goes on to say it's "earmark free", yet the whole bill was one giant earmark. An earmark follows characteristics, not the word "Earmark". Second, the hush-hush flyover and photop of NYC (Thank you Michelle Malkin for your FOIA request!), yes very transparent hiding that. Oh, lets not even bring up his Clinton 2.0 administration rampant with "transparent" tax fraud and evasion. Does this man have a vetting team, or is he so inexperienced he knows no one else? I could go on and on about his so called "transparent" administration, and I'm even leaving out some doozies.

The "Stimulus" was one huge pile of a joke, that basically indebted our progeny. Many of the "programs" involved in the "Stimulus" are not stimulative, nor are they of great benefit to warrant enslaving our kids to a life of debt. In any case, a healthy economy relies on long-term sustainable jobs, not short-term employment that disappears a few years down the road. I'm not sure how many people understand just how much 1.5 trillion is...Secondly, this macro control of the US Economy by the Government is appalling, and is not a constitutional function of the Federal Government.

Pelosi is controlling Obama, not the other way around.



No, it has not largely been successful. Yes, he is doing those things, with no debate or input from Republicans (At least any that even tilt conservative and don't propose socialist-lite ideas), ramming legislation through that no one has time to read, and hiding things inside those bills. I also see a tri-fold increase of our debt, a huge success. Thank you Obama!

His first step on the world stage was to apologize for America, not instill our virtues, to appease those who are our enemies, and to humiliate our closest ally in Britain. He didn't get anything at the G20 he wanted and bowing to a Saudi King is not what I call "poised". I do not care if socialists in Europe like him (That should at least open peoples eyes), thats just another reason for me to fight him at every chance we can.

Why yes! Taking over banks, chrysler, GM, insurance companies, mortgages....that is what America is all about. Socialism! His handling of the economy is going to lead to the collapse of the USA (Monetization of our debt, always in human history has led to collapse), and to the erosion and loss of Liberty and Freedom and a slave like relationship to the Federal Government, which is everything this country "used" to stand against. I suppose, with a propaganda machine as infalliable as the Media (Face it, libs own 95% of the media in this country), they can twist everything, and attack everyone (Hello, there drive-by media).

Yes, waterboarding the top 3 level Al'Qaeda agents is the "Architecture of Torture". You do know, that the US is one of the most lenient countries in the world when it comes to detainees, POW, etc, right? We have every right to shoot enemy combatants in the head, whether on the battlefield (Doesn't matter if they "surrendered" or not) or back in Guantanomo. Enemy Combatants have no rights according to the Geneva Convention. Perhaps, the Taliban and Al'Qaeda should actually put on a Uniform, and become a recognized, organized, military force?



How's that 13$ working for you? Gosh, it feels so great they are giving back to us! Wake up! Every bill that is coming out of DC is raising your living costs aka taxes. If this preposterous cap and trade makes it through, thats a huge TAX increase on you. You think the prices of energy aren't going to skyrocket? Ha! You don't think spending 6.2 trillion at the most conservative of estimate in the first 100 days is not going to raise your taxes? How do you plan on paying for that?

If they wanted to actually help the economy, they would repeal the 16th Amendment, and institute the fair tax. You would see businesses and individuals boom like at no other point in history. Not only that, it finally abolishes this "progressive" aka socialist tax structure, that is upwards of 70,000 pages and which the Obama Administration doesn't even understand, hence they're mostly all tax evaders. Let's also do away with Affirmative Action while we are at it, and all other forms of racial, sexual, gender discrimination so the most qualified personnel are being hired, maybe then these minority groups will actually have to compete and would give them some incentive to improve themselves.




Rei, that "school money" you talked about went to the NEA. The bloodsuckers that are the Union. The children won't see much, or any of it. Subsidizing failure breeds failure, and people wonder why our education system is in such disarray.



DeMint, Inhofe, Palin, Coburn, Paul for 2012! Conservative/Libertarian fighting liberal hordes until I die.

On May 08 2009 10:20 b3h47pte wrote:


I wouldn't say that unless you can quote the constitution saying the Legislative/Executive/Judicial Branch of our government doesn't have the power.



The Elastic Clause provides a lot of power. It all depends on how you interpret the Constitution.

On May 08 2009 10:02 Luddite wrote:
lol Aegraen. Nice first post man. I think rather than arguing with you I'll just wait for you to have a heart attack.