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Seriously, how the hell do you people discipline yourselves?
I'm generally super lazy. Nothing ever gets done. The only time I ever progress in something is when I get a sudden burst of motivation, which lasts a short period of time, and then I give up. It goes like this for months and months and then there are the periods where my whole week consists of sleeping.
Like, with Starcraft, I've played for three years on and off and never even hit B- on ICCup. About 80% of my Starcraft time is spent BGHing, UMSing, and watching reps. Then what happens next is I go on east, play a game with some fagtard. I end up losing and get super pissed, go on ICCup, and mass game. In fact, that is pretty much the only time I ever get practice. When someone asks for a beating.
But that isn't the purpose of this blog. Starcraft is pretty much over for me and even if I ever did put forth all my effort and discipline there is just nothing that hasn't been accomplished before. It is all old news I think. Although I immensely love watching tournaments in the foreign as well as the Korean scene, my participation in the actual game will just remain as a super casual thing.
Anyways.. to stream on a line of thoughts, poker has been working the exact opposite for me. I'll get pissed from a bad beat or just playing horribly and my focus mode will engage. Two things happen within the next hour and a half. I either make a nice amount of cash or lose a shitload. I'm stuck on this idea that I just went below the amount I started with and it can't end this way. Ending a session with lost money makes for a shitty day.
And, anyways, the bulk of the question really is: How do you calm yourself down and discipline yourself to get something done? I've made schedules, set my alarm, told myself that, "if this shit doesn't get done I'm gonna fuck your mother". Nothing has been working. Someone tell me an inspirational tale or direct me please.
 
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I can relate to your lack to your motivation. I think honestly it's all about finding yourself as a person, then you will be able to find your true purpose & focus on accomplishing it. I'm just waiting for that special something to hit me.
I really don't have an answer, and I myself could use some advice to be honest with you.
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im in your position. same shit happens to me in sc and poker too. lost so much in fucking poker. HELP US! :p
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United States24701 Posts
Some ideas...
Rewards for accomplishments. I am allowed to do X after I have completed Y. You just have to stick to the plan or it crumbles.
Planning ahead: scheduling how much you are going to do when can make it easier to get yourself to do whatever it is you want... the difficult part for many people, including me, is being flexible about it because you actually will have to deviate frequently.
Taking a break when things get bad with the conscious goal of cooling off or putting your mind on something else. For example, you get a really bad beat in poker or get really unlucky in bw or just play very poorly and lose to an opponent you should have won... make it a habit take a break in this situation with the plan to return twice as focused.
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i could really use the advice from this thread too :x
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Ballz, that is all
You achieve on pure will power, just grab this feeling of yours of being sick and tired of laziness, and turn it into your motivation of doing things, getting the important stuff done, annd please stop playing poker, i bet if u just use the same amount of time in a job you wont have that "shity" day when u lose money.
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Decide to do differently. That's all it is.
Adversity introduces a man to himself, and within it, is the seed of equal advantage.
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Like, with Starcraft, I've played for three years on and off and never even hit B- on ICCup. This is why I must get B- this season.
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Bosnia-Herzegovina1437 Posts
Dude, if you want to open your character try shrooms.
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On April 29 2009 12:29 Clasic wrote:
Dude, if you want to open your character try shrooms.
Last time I tried something like that I was hoping to get laid, and I didn't.
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On April 29 2009 11:30 SCC-Faust wrote:Someone tell me an inspirational tale or direct me please. Once there was a guy who wanted to get something done.
So he went and did it.
That guy was called George Washington. He was also called a bunch of other names, because that's what almost everyone does anyway.
The end.
Seriously, though: If you're playing Starcraft for money, then not practicing is a problem, but it's probably just a game that you play for fun. In that case, doing whatever is more fun is fine.
As for other things... if there's something bad that will happen if you don't do it, you should probably think you're going to do it to avoid that happening? I guess I'm not a lot of help.
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On April 29 2009 11:30 SCC-Faust wrote:Someone tell me an inspirational tale or direct me please.
Before iCCup, before mass gaming, i happily owned games on battle.net in 1v1 play/ob python !
Everyone told me i could become B- easily!
However when i got on iCCup; not only did i not reach B- i was merely C-... boosting a 50% win rate
for a year i struggled between the ranks of C-/C , and eventually reached C+ , where i floundered between the C/C+ gap for quite some time.
Everything seemed so hopeless, I don't know why... but "B-" was always my goal.
Then, i realized i was playing during korean hours (midnight-6am)
switched play time from 3pm-etc. and hit b- easily
gg
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Honestly, I've been there, hell, I still am. "Discipline" has been a lifelong struggle for me. If what the above people say work, then great! But I'm guessing if the answer were as simple as Micronesia says (no offense dude), then you'd already be a disciplined & hardworking machine.
My shift from lazyass to motivated hardworker took years. I went from pussy shit kid in high school failing English and Calculus with small testicles, to having a 4.0, going to UNC, and being a Music Competition Winner.
(proof of my pussyness - Blog 1Blog 2)
I could write a whole self help book on this, but I'll lay down some general basics that I did that has led me to being more motivated.
I don't know you, so i'm not going to say any of these apply to you specifically (but i'll use the second person pronoun 'you' anyway)
1) Being able to come to grips with the inadequacies of the Universe -
This one seems to be the big one that most people can't comprehend. Once you accept that the world was not made for you, then you'll start being able to controlling your emotions. If you can't control your emotions, you won't be able to focus on any of the work that you want to do because 'other things' will seem much more important. Accepting that certain things in life are just going to suck and there's nothing you can do about it is possibly the best thing you can do about it (although this doesn't apply to everything).
There are so many people out there who just bitch all day about unfair shit that goes on in their lives. However unfair these things may be, the best thing one can do is shut up, and focus your energy on something that will reap future benefits so that perhaps one day you won't have to deal with that bullshit.
2) Understanding Yourself
Ask yourself why you do the things you do. Why are you lazy? Are you really lazy? Perhaps you just avoid tasks because they are too hard. Perhaps you avoid them because you feel like you're getting nowhere. What do you do to avoid them? Skim through TL? Watch videos? Those things are so easy. You gain nothing out of them.
Many people are in a conundrum. They want to be hard working people, because growth makes people happy, and they want to be efficiently working on tasks and not wasting time dabbling on Facebook. But at the same time, doing those tasks can be rather difficult, or you don't know exactly how to approach the task. So you sit in front of your computer, wanting to do this certain task, yet you can't get yourself to do it without having to come way out of your comfort zone, in which case you know you can only be doing a half-assed job of it anyway.
You have to see your tasks in a different light. The thoughts you have towards your tasks will make all the difference. For me, when I started thinking of tasks not as "i put in work now, and later I will get a reward" I started thinking about it as a "I want to do this, because it will be more enjoyable than just sitting around watching reruns of South Park." But I do re-emphasize that not everyone's thoughts on this will be the same.
3) Actual Discipline -
Sometimes you just need to get force yourself to work on things. But in order to make it as easy as possible, the previously stated steps must be taken. But the more that you push yourself to work on those tasks you want to, the easier it should get (if not then you need to re-evaluate what you're doing and how you're doing it).
I hope you can get yourself to do what you need to. It sucks not being able to "discipline" yourself, but it takes time and effort and brains.
I've read lots of books on the subject. I advise avoiding the Tony Robbins/Self Help bullshit. The most helpful for me was "Flow: The Psychology of Optimal Experience" by Mihaly Csikszentmihalyi. You should totally check it out, I highly recommend it.
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United States24701 Posts
On April 29 2009 13:25 StarN wrote:
Honestly, I've been there, hell, I still am. "Discipline" has been a lifelong struggle for me. If what the above people say work, then great! But I'm guessing if the answer were as simple as Micronesia says (no offense dude), then you'd already be a disciplined & hardworking machine.
Ideas = The Answer
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I was just giving him some things he could try doing to see if they helped him.
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On April 29 2009 13:31 micronesia wrote:Show nested quote +On April 29 2009 13:25 StarN wrote:
Honestly, I've been there, hell, I still am. "Discipline" has been a lifelong struggle for me. If what the above people say work, then great! But I'm guessing if the answer were as simple as Micronesia says (no offense dude), then you'd already be a disciplined & hardworking machine.
Ideas = The Answer ? I was just giving him some things he could try doing to see if they helped him.
Sorry for calling you out on that then. I only meant to make a point that one can try simple shifts in their daily habits, but if the problem is something as large as motivation/discipline then I doubt such things will work.
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Physician
United States4146 Posts
between - the admission you never even hit B- on ICCup i.e. d player? that you spend 80% of your games on bgh, that you found fagtards in east, that you never did put forth all your effort and discipline so that's why your not good at StarCraft , that Starcraft is pretty much over for you and now that p0ker can help you focus but you still lose a shitload of money - shit I almost threw up man, your a walking cliche..
5/5 for writing more than one paragraph and breaking out of the mold..
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On April 29 2009 11:30 SCC-Faust wrote:
Seriously, how the hell do you people discipline yourselves?
I'm generally super lazy. Nothing ever gets done. The only time I ever progress in something is when I get a sudden burst of motivation, which lasts a short period of time, and then I give up. It goes like this for months and months and then there are the periods where my whole week consists of sleeping.
Like, with Starcraft, I've played for three years on and off and never even hit B- on ICCup. About 80% of my Starcraft time is spent BGHing, UMSing, and watching reps. Then what happens next is I go on east, play a game with some fagtard. I end up losing and get super pissed, go on ICCup, and mass game. In fact, that is pretty much the only time I ever get practice. When someone asks for a beating.
But that isn't the purpose of this blog. Starcraft is pretty much over for me and even if I ever did put forth all my effort and discipline there is just nothing that hasn't been accomplished before. It is all old news I think. Although I immensely love watching tournaments in the foreign as well as the Korean scene, my participation in the actual game will just remain as a super casual thing.
Anyways.. to stream on a line of thoughts, poker has been working the exact opposite for me. I'll get pissed from a bad beat or just playing horribly and my focus mode will engage. Two things happen within the next hour and a half. I either make a nice amount of cash or lose a shitload. I'm stuck on this idea that I just went below the amount I started with and it can't end this way. Ending a session with lost money makes for a shitty day.
And, anyways, the bulk of the question really is: How do you calm yourself down and discipline yourself to get something done? I've made schedules, set my alarm, told myself that, "if this shit doesn't get done I'm gonna fuck your mother". Nothing has been working. Someone tell me an inspirational tale or direct me please.
Faust,
first of all, fuck you for calling me a fagtard.
Second of all, you're terrible at poker. We've acknowledged this many times, that I am much better at poker than you are, even though you're the one with the account and I don't. I don't play poker because I know I'll lose money. Therefore, I don't understand why you play poker and go all in on a 7-2 offsuit. We've also acknowledged that you play too much mabinogi.
Solution: Find something to do that is interesting and for the long term. Instead of thinking "fuck that guy for river ratting" think "do I still want to be an older version of SCC-Faust 20 years from now?" If the latter is true, then...
Read a good book. Not that disgusting anime porn shit that you like, an actual book. I'd start by recommending your namesake, Dr. Faustus, by Nathaniel Marlowe. You could continue on by reading up on philosophy. We haven't had many crazy (but innovative) people recently sprouting off about the next ideas of philosophical thought, maybe you can do that for us.
Or, you could take your poker playing to the next level and become a day trader. Poker is all about knowing what other people are going to do. So is day trading, essentially. Read up on making investments and you might get somewhere.
There are literally tons of cool shit that you could do if you would get your head out of the next 30 minutes. Look into this shit lol, instead of being stuck in "omg scc-slayer u suck" mode.
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Make it so bad shit happens when you don't get stuff done, that's probably the only thing that motivates me. If I don't get my assignment in on time, I fail. If I don't study, I fail. If I don't eat well, I feel like shit (mind you, living on your own for the first time is hella hard T_T). Find something that is WORTH doing.
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