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o3.power91
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
Bahrain5288 Posts
April 24 2009 14:20 GMT
#21
On April 24 2009 23:09 TimeShifter wrote:
didnt see it here so i thought i'd post it:

[image loading]
According to

Pocket Gamer, who cite a developer working on the hardware, an all-new PlayStation Portable will be out and on store shelves before Christmas.

Yup. Two thumbsticks. Finally.
-kotaku
Tue Apr 7 2009

http://kotaku.com/5201591/new-psp-due-before-christmas

LOL WIN
Purind
Profile Blog Joined April 2004
Canada3562 Posts
April 24 2009 14:28 GMT
#22
Maybe he meant to post that here:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=91989

And yeah, the last second race picking is BS. Would it be remotely possible for Blizz to release a patch that'll lock races during the countdown? I know it's not likely, but one can always dream. Hopefully this last second race picking won't be possible in SC2.

Doesn't WC3 tell you which races were picked during the loading screen? That's one of the... like... two things WC3 has over SC
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Lexpar
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
1813 Posts
April 24 2009 14:28 GMT
#23
On April 24 2009 23:09 TimeShifter wrote:
didnt see it here so i thought i'd post it:

[image loading]
According to

Pocket Gamer, who cite a developer working on the hardware, an all-new PlayStation Portable will be out and on store shelves before Christmas.

Yup. Two thumbsticks. Finally.
-kotaku
Tue Apr 7 2009

http://kotaku.com/5201591/new-psp-due-before-christmas



Woah nice job sticking on topic XD.
Too_MuchZerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
Finland2818 Posts
April 24 2009 14:37 GMT
#24
On April 24 2009 23:17 eX-Corgh wrote:
Yea this sucks. I'm always starring at their race during the countdown, but sometimes they end up being the other race in game >(

The solution to this is early scout. With all this cheese in ICCUP its a good idea to scout early anyway.


Same here, always staring opponents race incase switching. Annoying thing is that race can be different because bug. Especially ZvT and opponent picks Z. Hello 4 pool etc, when I 12 hatch.
Loptimist
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
106 Posts
April 24 2009 15:23 GMT
#25
LOL this happened to me too. The same guy too..Jerusalem!
da_head
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Canada3350 Posts
April 24 2009 15:48 GMT
#26
lol i actually like racing picking. i play protoss and zerg is my strongest mu
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datscilly
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
United States528 Posts
April 24 2009 15:50 GMT
#27
Can't this problem be solved with maps that print the two players' races at the start of the game?
Chef
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
10810 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-04-24 16:10:13
April 24 2009 16:01 GMT
#28
On April 24 2009 21:50 Caller wrote:
The 100% solution to victory here is to go random every game.

Who cares if they do whatever they don't know what you're getting either.

Have fun getting banned every game by babies who don't want to play against random. I had to start trying to main a race it's so bad, but the problem is the game completely changes even in the same matchups... Most people don't know what builds to do vs random, so I was able to get away with not knowing any real builds either... Now I just get owned by anyone who knows a build

PS: Could we not quote the spam bot 100 times?
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cyronc
Profile Joined March 2008
218 Posts
April 24 2009 16:03 GMT
#29
this happened to me occasianally in team-games, but sucked the other way around:

host just happened to think 'k lets go without informing anyone' i was afk came back as i saw countdown going down (was random still), tried to pick zerg, it showed zerg, i am like 'whew, close one', but instead i ened up being protoss or terran (cant tell about the incidents when i got zerg cause that obviously wouldnt have upset me since i CHOSE zerg in the first place) WTF

guess its a bug in the bnet client/scbw engine that these kids are abusing with some 3rd-party software, that lets you determine what you appear to be and what you get in fact

on a sidenote: in metal's 2on2 reppack there is a conversation with metal's ally where his ally says there is some chinese program out there that utilizes exactly this function, dont know whether he was joking or not though...
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jello_biafra
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
United Kingdom6635 Posts
April 24 2009 16:09 GMT
#30
I'm pretty sure this is physically impossible to pull off if the other person is closely watching your race during the countdown. Sometimes during the countdown they will switch races at the almost last second, so I'll try and switch too, so I see my race as Zerg in the last second or so of the pregame lobby but when the game starts I'll be terran, I assume they can't see this change because it's happened a lot and no one has ever said anything.
The road to hell is paved with good intentions | aka Probert[PaiN] @ iccup / godlikeparagon @ twitch | my BW stream: http://www.teamliquid.net/video/streams/jello_biafra
Chef
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
10810 Posts
April 24 2009 16:11 GMT
#31
Jello, it's a bug. You literally won't see the change, even if you're careful like me and stare at your opponent's race every game.
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WhenHellfreezes
Profile Joined November 2008
United States81 Posts
April 24 2009 16:13 GMT
#32
soju did this to me. Thought i was playing zvz. I oppened 12 gas 11 pool against terran. Was not fun.
Doom!
GunsofthePatriots
Profile Joined August 2007
South Africa991 Posts
April 24 2009 16:18 GMT
#33
On April 24 2009 23:09 TimeShifter wrote:
didnt see it here so i thought i'd post it:

[image loading]
According to

Pocket Gamer, who cite a developer working on the hardware, an all-new PlayStation Portable will be out and on store shelves before Christmas.

Yup. Two thumbsticks. Finally.
-kotaku
Tue Apr 7 2009

http://kotaku.com/5201591/new-psp-due-before-christmas


Before christmas? No way in hell. They just released the 3000 a while ago, the economy is bad, and PSP sales aren't amazing. The price will also be around $250+, because that's where the PSP started and it had a lot less features.

jello_biafra
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
United Kingdom6635 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-04-24 16:19:54
April 24 2009 16:19 GMT
#34
On April 25 2009 01:11 Chef wrote:
Jello, it's a bug. You literally won't see the change, even if you're careful like me and stare at your opponent's race every game.


That's strange, people try this on me all the time so I always look at their races till the last possible second and never once has the person been anything other than the race they had at the very end of the pregame lobby, I thought that bug only worked in that if you change your race at the last possible second, you see a change but the other player doesn't and that change in race doesn't take effect when the game starts.
The road to hell is paved with good intentions | aka Probert[PaiN] @ iccup / godlikeparagon @ twitch | my BW stream: http://www.teamliquid.net/video/streams/jello_biafra
GunsofthePatriots
Profile Joined August 2007
South Africa991 Posts
April 24 2009 16:19 GMT
#35
On April 24 2009 23:28 Purind wrote:
Maybe he meant to post that here:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=91989

And yeah, the last second race picking is BS. Would it be remotely possible for Blizz to release a patch that'll lock races during the countdown? I know it's not likely, but one can always dream. Hopefully this last second race picking won't be possible in SC2.

Doesn't WC3 tell you which races were picked during the loading screen? That's one of the... like... two things WC3 has over SC


WarCraft 3 also has a matchmaking system.

Does anyone know if StarCraft 2 will have matchmaking for FFA?
Eatme
Profile Blog Joined June 2003
Switzerland3919 Posts
April 24 2009 17:09 GMT
#36
Tested it a few times vs comp and I can pick T or P (and possibly random) and it looks like I'm Z on the countdown. Did the ToT)OjKa( thingy.
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Patriot.dlk
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
Sweden5462 Posts
April 24 2009 18:43 GMT
#37
On April 24 2009 22:36 Geo.Rion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 24 2009 22:32 ilistis wrote:
That happens to me when I join games. That's why I host my own games now and I specifically make a game name that says Pvp or Tvp. Try that, most people who see that join the game with the race you have chosen for them.


Sad thing is i have to join games, becuase for some reason ppl cannot join my hosting


turn off your firewall?
Qatol
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
United States3165 Posts
April 24 2009 18:51 GMT
#38
Yep this is a pretty old bug. Like people have said before, just have the racepick window open when the game starts and I BELIEVE you wind up being random regardless of the race you had selected. It doesn't need anything like 3rd party software however.
Uff Da
Equinox_kr
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
United States7395 Posts
April 24 2009 19:08 GMT
#39
On April 25 2009 03:51 Qatol wrote:
Yep this is a pretty old bug. Like people have said before, just have the racepick window open when the game starts and I BELIEVE you wind up being random regardless of the race you had selected. It doesn't need anything like 3rd party software however.


Is this so? I remember playing a guy who I was SURE picked Zerg but ended up being Terran.

I 2 Gated him anyway and kicked his ass rofl
^-^
Duke
Profile Blog Joined May 2006
United States1106 Posts
April 24 2009 19:13 GMT
#40
i always say "race?" in lobby, wait for them to pick, and if they change during the countdown i leave.
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