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EtherealDeath
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States8366 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-04-20 09:06:17
April 20 2009 04:28 GMT
#1
LATEST EDIT: more ppl on #2 instead of #1 plz

I'll tell you guys what it's for and stuff a week from now. Just take EXACTLY ONE of the following surveys; they each have one question. Oh, and try to answer them as soon as you feel your mind has reached a consensus.

#1) http://ethereum.questionform.com/public/Survey-1

#2) http://ethereum.questionform.com/public/Survey-2

EDIT: no spoilers regarding correct or incorrect answers in thread plz ;( Until a week from now anyways, or earlier whenever I edit the OP in case hits start stagnating.

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Empyrean
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
16987 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-04-20 04:36:15
April 20 2009 04:32 GMT
#2
EDIT: Uh oh I ruined his survey
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EtherealDeath
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States8366 Posts
April 20 2009 04:35 GMT
#3
answered in PM since uhh I guess it might affect results somehow
Empyrean
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
16987 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-04-20 04:36:29
April 20 2009 04:35 GMT
#4
EDIT: Nevermind I just got it.
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Shivaz
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Canada1783 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-04-20 04:40:19
April 20 2009 04:36 GMT
#5
edit: Wut..
EtherealDeath
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States8366 Posts
April 20 2009 04:36 GMT
#6
On April 20 2009 13:35 Empyrean wrote:
EDIT: Nevermind I just got it.


EtherealDeath
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States8366 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-04-20 04:38:42
April 20 2009 04:38 GMT
#7
err Shivaz no spoilers of any sort plz
Avidkeystamper
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States8552 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-04-20 04:40:19
April 20 2009 04:39 GMT
#8
+ Show Spoiler +
contrapositive?
I guess this survey sorts the mathematical people from the philosophical people?
Jaedong
Deleted User 3420
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
24492 Posts
April 20 2009 04:39 GMT
#9
Important question regarding the surveys.

Does the "I" character referenced in the surveys have multiple faces?
EtherealDeath
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States8366 Posts
April 20 2009 04:41 GMT
#10
On April 20 2009 13:39 travis wrote:
Important question regarding the surveys.

Does the "I" character referenced in the surveys have multiple faces?


huh?

I = "me" or whatever character you may want to pretend is asking you the question.
EtherealDeath
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States8366 Posts
April 20 2009 04:44 GMT
#11
also I don't see any faces.. unless the survey site is acting up.
EtherealDeath
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States8366 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-04-20 04:46:11
April 20 2009 04:45 GMT
#12
On April 20 2009 13:39 Avidkeystamper wrote:
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contrapositive?
I guess this survey sorts the mathematical people from the philosophical people?


nope not quite, to the latter statement that is.
Oh btw, only read things in spoilers if you've answered already please.
Deleted User 3420
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
24492 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-04-20 05:02:37
April 20 2009 05:01 GMT
#13
it was a weird joke based on the possibility of smiling and not smiling at the same time, because you have multiple faces.
micronesia
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States24690 Posts
April 20 2009 05:14 GMT
#14
For those who already are done:

+ Show Spoiler +

The difference between survey one or two is the presentation of the question. I randomly chose question 2, and after reading it I chose to ignore the second sentence under the pretense that it could not affect the correct answer, yet could serve to confuse me.

The variable between Q1 and Q2 is whether or not you give the example, but I think it's going to create some confounding variables. I'll be interested to hear your rationale later.

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SpiritoftheTunA
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
United States20903 Posts
April 20 2009 05:15 GMT
#15
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i'm too logical for this trickery

(i started with #2, spent a long time thinking about it, answered no, then looked at #1 which made me feel good about myself)
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Shivaz
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Canada1783 Posts
April 20 2009 05:19 GMT
#16
On April 20 2009 14:15 SpiritoftheTunA wrote:
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i'm too logical for this trickery

(i started with #2, spent a long time thinking about it, answered no, then looked at #1 which made me feel good about myself)


+ Show Spoiler +
I don't understand you, I am quiet certain there is no correct answer rather the purpose is to show different types of thinking.

Empyrean
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
16987 Posts
April 20 2009 05:20 GMT
#17
On April 20 2009 14:14 micronesia wrote:
For those who already are done:

+ Show Spoiler +

The difference between survey one or two is the presentation of the question. I randomly chose question 2, and after reading it I chose to ignore the second sentence under the pretense that it could not affect the correct answer, yet could serve to confuse me.

The variable between Q1 and Q2 is whether or not you give the example, but I think it's going to create some confounding variables. I'll be interested to hear your rationale later.



+ Show Spoiler +
Yeah, I was the first one to take the survey (though I actually never submitted any results haha), and immediately recognized it as seeing if people know how to deal with contrapositions. It's really easy to see through if you have even the most basic knowledge of mathematical logic. I didn't spoiler my words, though, so I kind of ruined it prematurely. Hence my edit.
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SpiritoftheTunA
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
United States20903 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-04-20 05:24:12
April 20 2009 05:23 GMT
#18
On April 20 2009 14:19 Shivaz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 20 2009 14:15 SpiritoftheTunA wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
i'm too logical for this trickery

(i started with #2, spent a long time thinking about it, answered no, then looked at #1 which made me feel good about myself)


+ Show Spoiler +
I don't understand you, I am quiet certain there is no correct answer rather the purpose is to show different types of thinking.


+ Show Spoiler +
there certainly is a logical answer

statement: if happy, then smile

is it possible to not smile if happy?

no, not logically. the second one provides some sort of crappy justification as to why it might be possible to not smile, but that doesnt counteract the absolute edict of the first statement
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Deleted User 3420
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
24492 Posts
April 20 2009 05:26 GMT
#19
On April 20 2009 14:23 SpiritoftheTunA wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 20 2009 14:19 Shivaz wrote:
On April 20 2009 14:15 SpiritoftheTunA wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
i'm too logical for this trickery

(i started with #2, spent a long time thinking about it, answered no, then looked at #1 which made me feel good about myself)


+ Show Spoiler +
I don't understand you, I am quiet certain there is no correct answer rather the purpose is to show different types of thinking.


+ Show Spoiler +
there certainly is a logical answer

statement: if happy, then smile

is it possible to not smile if happy?

no, not logically. the second one provides some sort of crappy justification as to why it might be possible to not smile, but that doesnt counteract the absolute edict of the first statement



we answered the same lulz
maareek
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
United States2042 Posts
April 20 2009 05:30 GMT
#20
On April 20 2009 14:19 Shivaz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 20 2009 14:15 SpiritoftheTunA wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
i'm too logical for this trickery

(i started with #2, spent a long time thinking about it, answered no, then looked at #1 which made me feel good about myself)


+ Show Spoiler +
I don't understand you, I am quiet certain there is no correct answer rather the purpose is to show different types of thinking.



+ Show Spoiler +
I did only the first survey. From that, logically one would assume that the person would have to be smiling if they are happy because the previous sentence indicated that when they are happy they smile. Within the context of the stated question, there is no way the person could be happy and not smiling. Obviously in real life that doesn't apply, but this is a self-contained question independent of real life.

At least that's the way I look at it.
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