EPTthe rule is rep or it didnt happen, so here it is, quite boring game
http://repdepot.net/replay.php?id=10459
70 APM C- oO
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Geo.Rion
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the rule is rep or it didnt happen, so here it is, quite boring game http://repdepot.net/replay.php?id=10459 | ||
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ReCharge
Philippines505 Posts
I'm P, and D+ almost C-, and I only have 70~100 apm. DONT START THE 1A2A3A bs thing plz. | ||
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MasterReY
Germany2708 Posts
once i played without spam and i got 72 apm and i've beaten a 282 apm C+ with that, so what? | ||
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MasterReY
Germany2708 Posts
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Geo.Rion
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Geo.Rion
7377 Posts
On April 11 2009 21:38 MasterReY wrote: im C+/B- with ~100-120 apm btw who, props for that. i dont (think) i spam, and even with my 130-160 APM i feel really slow, and i thinkg that's what prevents me from making further on icc, not enough apm to macro in fights or multitask | ||
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ReCharge
Philippines505 Posts
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genryou
Malaysia390 Posts
plus, 77 APM is throughout the whole game is average, if it was below 50 then i too will fall of my chair. what his highest APM anyway? | ||
thedeadhaji
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Pulimuli
Sweden2766 Posts
On April 11 2009 21:52 genryou wrote: high APM can either mean lots of spam or fast hand, its not a weird thing to have a low APM but solid gameplay. plus, 77 APM is throughout the whole game is average, if it was below 50 then i too will fall of my chair. what his highest APM anyway? Yes high apm can mean alot of spam so the important thing to look at is EAPM even if his EAPM is 77 it is insanely low and only protoss could actually play with such low apm | ||
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kartoffel
Germany38 Posts
I think he won't go any further than c+/b- with 70apm because he can't stand a macro game vs same rank koreans. | ||
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DrywMz
United States394 Posts
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Shikyo
Finland33997 Posts
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Gnojfatelob
Belgium216 Posts
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DownMaxX
Canada1311 Posts
He didn't believe I could get to D+ as Zerg with 170 APM. | ||
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PriitM
Algeria181 Posts
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Boblion
France8043 Posts
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ilovezil
United States4143 Posts
On April 11 2009 21:58 thedeadhaji wrote: there have been 90 apm A- pgt players before -,- Oh come now, haji. You know as well as I do there have been olympic rank PGT players with HALF that apm. And everyone else was either A or A+ | ||
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Zozma
United States1626 Posts
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Diomedes
464 Posts
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Ilikestarcraft
Korea (South)17731 Posts
On April 11 2009 21:58 thedeadhaji wrote: there have been 90 apm A- pgt players before -,- or people like me 200 apm d players  | ||
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Pulimuli
Sweden2766 Posts
On April 11 2009 22:15 DownMaxX wrote: Oh man, I was playing a Korean Terran last week who had over 300 APM at the D+ level, and he asked me my APM, so I told him honestly (around 170) and he's just like "WHAT? Do you play Protoss or something?" He didn't believe I could get to D+ as Zerg with 170 APM. You can get A- with ~180 apm imo | ||
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Xusneb
Canada612 Posts
 I guess at these levels, strategy can actually hold up against mechanics... either that or ppl are spamming way too much. | ||
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Malongo
Chile3472 Posts
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Harem
United States11393 Posts
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Geo.Rion
7377 Posts
On April 11 2009 23:01 Boblion wrote: Kwark is A+ with 100 apm. what? no way | ||
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Scorch
Austria3371 Posts
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Skeggaba
Korea (South)1556 Posts
Sometimes SC is like poker - very hard to read those players that have no real understanding of the game.. | ||
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Geo.Rion
7377 Posts
On April 11 2009 23:44 Skeggaba wrote: C- 170 APM, i consider that pretty average. I have been involved in some serious beatings though (mainly from P) where i have tried to trick him with hidden Hydra Den, hidden exp. ect - but when he just ignored all that and steamrolled me 11 min into the game(with 70-80APM). Sometimes SC is like poker - very hard to read those players that have no real understanding of the game.. you sound like Idra, just more mannered | ||
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Zozma
United States1626 Posts
On April 11 2009 23:22 Xusneb wrote: Yeah, I think D- to D+ players love to spam their way to 300 APM and think they're gosu even though they aren't really doing much with it.Low APM ppl give me hope I guess at these levels, strategy can actually hold up against mechanics... either that or ppl are spamming way too much. | ||
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niteReloaded
Croatia5282 Posts
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ShoCkeyy
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Archaic
United States4024 Posts
On April 11 2009 23:44 Skeggaba wrote: Sometimes SC is like poker - very hard to read those players that have no real understanding of the game.. This. When I play people that don't really know what they are doing, they never cease to amaze me. They can find ways to screw up your build order, no matter how badly it will screw up their macro, or continuous exceptions throughout the game. | ||
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R3condite
Korea (South)1541 Posts
LOL agreed! | ||
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Shivaz
Canada1783 Posts
On April 12 2009 00:08 Archaic wrote: This. When I play people that don't really know what they are doing, they never cease to amaze me. They can find ways to screw up your build order, no matter how badly it will screw up their macro, or continuous exceptions throughout the game. Lol.... fucking skilllless newbie doing stupid shit to win...... | ||
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Boblion
France8043 Posts
Where are you from ? wait | ||
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Clasic
Bosnia-Herzegovina1437 Posts
On April 11 2009 21:58 thedeadhaji wrote: there have been 90 apm A- pgt players before -,- Pgt is dead stop talkin about it :D | ||
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thunk
United States6233 Posts
On April 11 2009 21:58 thedeadhaji wrote: there have been 90 apm A- pgt players before -,- In a different era though. This guys has been brought up before apparently he's pretty good for the 90 apm he has. | ||
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[DUF]MethodMan
Germany1716 Posts
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Empyrean
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On April 12 2009 00:50 [DUF]MethodMan wrote: I never wonder about players having lower APM as they should have according to their rank. But what always makes me laugh are people with 250++APM with no gamesense and strategical thinking at all who never go further than C-. I haven't seen him in ages, but case[shock] was a 275+ apm Terran who I played once. He sat on 120 supply with over 4k minerals. Also he never got farther than his nat, mainly since I could just afford to 1a2a3a units at him from my five expos. ... Seriously, it makes you wonder what the hell these people are doing with all that APM. | ||
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TimmyMac
Canada499 Posts
On April 11 2009 22:15 DownMaxX wrote: Oh man, I was playing a Korean Terran last week who had over 300 APM at the D+ level, and he asked me my APM, so I told him honestly (around 170) and he's just like "WHAT? Do you play Protoss or something?" He didn't believe I could get to D+ as Zerg with 170 APM. Eh, I'm D+ zerg at 100apm | ||
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rredtooth
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imperfect
Canada1652 Posts
and please, we know protoss is easier. you dont have to make fun of us for everything. apm, skill level, 1a2a3a.. it never stops TT | ||
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HeavOnEarth
United States7087 Posts
lzgamer lol | ||
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Aux1
United States780 Posts
On April 12 2009 02:36 imperfect wrote: yeah how does Kwark have like 80-90 apm and maintain such a high rank? and please, we know protoss is easier. you dont have to make fun of us for everything. apm, skill level, 1a2a3a.. it never stops TT He probably plays really unorthodox | ||
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Elite00fm
United States548 Posts
no he plays normally and straight up (atleast in the games I've played against him) and is more like 110-130 apm, but he just a very solid player who knows what to do in given situations and does everything cleanly with no spam. | ||
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samachking
Bahrain4949 Posts
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Harem
United States11393 Posts
On April 12 2009 04:33 Elite00fm wrote: no he plays normally and straight up (atleast in the games I've played against him) and is more like 110-130 apm, but he just a very solid player who knows what to do in given situations and does everything cleanly with no spam. Uh, Kwark is pretty known for his cheese. | ||
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koreasilver
9109 Posts
His apm was over 200. I just don't really understand what these people do with all those actions if they're not really doing anything at all. | ||
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Nytefish
United Kingdom4282 Posts
Well he just does the logical thing, play straight up against people you think are worse or equal to you and cheese against someone who you are unlikely to beat in a standard game. | ||
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PH
United States6173 Posts
I've seen many D+/C- toss with APMs no more than ~100, but I can't recall any zergs or terrans above D- with less than 120, tbh. | ||
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404.Delirium
United States1190 Posts
On April 12 2009 06:55 Nytefish wrote: Well he just does the logical thing, play straight up against people you think are worse or equal to you and cheese against someone who you are unlikely to beat in a standard game. Either that was a brilliant burn or I over analyzed it. I can believe a 70 apm C- player. In my opinion it's the jump from C- to C/+ where more APM is necessary for the multitasking required. 70 should be enough to basic macro/micro skills, me thinks. | ||
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Patriot.dlk
Sweden5462 Posts
Everyone knows how apm works and then someone rephrases himself badly or maybe generalize and someone else feels like I do and THEN a newbie comes along knowing nothing and boom! It's a 7 pager... | ||
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Ganfei
Taiwan1439 Posts
On April 12 2009 05:54 koreasilver wrote: I've played 3 ZvZ games with some last season when I just started off. He lost each game, and he couldn't micro or macro well. His apm was over 200. I just don't really understand what these people do with all those actions if they're not really doing anything at all. It's just a style. I don't know why people think it's something to attack others over. For example, my APM is usually 350-400. When I lose, people seem to think it's something to insult me over. They say ROFL I RAPED U AND U HAD 350 APM. Yes, so? It's just how I play. My fingers run over my hotkeys alot. Big deal. It's not like I'm consciously TRYING to boost my APM. I don't even think about it. I just use my hotkeys a ton and click a lot. | ||
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koreasilver
9109 Posts
I don't care about someone's apm regardless of how good they are, as there are examples of both high and low apm players playing at a very high level, but if you're doing absolutely fucking nothing while apparently doing a lot of actions, it makes you wonder if they actually know what's going on or if they're just doing completely pointless things. | ||
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fusionsdf
Canada15390 Posts
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fight_or_flight
United States3988 Posts
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fusionsdf
Canada15390 Posts
On April 12 2009 11:01 fight_or_flight wrote: This thread gives me a cool idea. We should have some sort of contests where people play with as low apm as possible and beat good players who have high apm. And post the replays. We've already had those :O we could have them again though | ||
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Geo.Rion
7377 Posts
The guy said 100, when i said no way s1 said it was a joke i did not get. Than discussion continues on Kwark's low apm succsess. Can s1 tell me who actually knows, what's up with him? | ||
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TheYango
United States47024 Posts
On April 12 2009 09:40 fusionsdf wrote: did anyone honestly enter this thread and expect anything other than jokes about protoss? Fixed. | ||
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Ilikestarcraft
Korea (South)17731 Posts
On April 12 2009 14:00 Geo.Rion wrote: so now what's Kwark's APM? The guy said 100, when i said no way s1 said it was a joke i did not get. Than discussion continues on Kwark's low apm succsess. Can s1 tell me who actually knows, what's up with him? pm him | ||
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fusionsdf
Canada15390 Posts
the jokes are irrelevant. It actually was a protoss lol | ||
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Xeris
Iran17695 Posts
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Racenilatr
United States2756 Posts
On April 11 2009 21:37 MasterReY wrote: whats wrong about being C- with 77 apm? once i played without spam and i got 72 apm and i've beaten a 282 apm C+ with that, so what? Something is wrong if you don't have over 80 apm. I really think you NEED at lest 90 apm to play protoss at C level, otherwise how can you macro? Even with NO SPAM CLICKS Whatsoever, it's just about impossible to have perfect macro/micro with only 90 apm | ||
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arb
Noobville17921 Posts
the only zvp i played against him ended with like, 3 groups of +1 speedzeals at like..9 minutes in, was ridiculous | ||
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United States2756 Posts
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nAi.PrOtOsS
Canada784 Posts
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