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TheFoReveRwaR
Profile Blog Joined May 2006
United States10657 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-04-08 01:49:01
April 08 2009 01:36 GMT
#1
Hi!

Our admin stuff recieved a complaint ID2816 from this player about this game


Admin ICCup.2easyAP reviewed this complaint and denied it with this reason:

Admin's comment:
usaterran you used hack. You will be reported.

If your don't agree with this deccision you can complaint in this forum.


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I go to log on iccup and find this little gem in my email inbox. Odd that they can ban you for hacking like this without giving you any way to defend yourself. I don't hack and have never hacked while playing bw in the 10 years or so ive been playing Looking for a little support so I can get my account back as it had pretty damn good stats and was at high C-.

Apparently this admin sucks too badly to realize that a decent T player is going to check for a 3rd when opening mech. How can he think I hack when I let those hydras completely rape me and almost let him back into a clearly lost game? FUCKING REDICULOUS. The game is entertaining enough

Heres the rep:

http://www.repdepot.net/download.php?type=rep&id=9891&name=usaterran vs Flower[Mutal].rep

I'd be more than happy to post any number of additional reps to prove my innocence.

I complained at the admin complains forum already..but..I don't have a lot of faith in that process.


*
Being healthy, it has been said, really consists of having the same disease as everybody else.
ramen247
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States1256 Posts
April 08 2009 01:45 GMT
#2
some admins arent very good at starcraft.
i hate this ugly firebat. i want a marine.
TheFoReveRwaR
Profile Blog Joined May 2006
United States10657 Posts
April 08 2009 01:46 GMT
#3
I'm sure the many zergs who have raped me with ling all ins will vouch for me
Being healthy, it has been said, really consists of having the same disease as everybody else.
SCC-Faust
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
United States3736 Posts
April 08 2009 01:47 GMT
#4
Unfair admin decisions are apart of any game.
You should go to a bar on a football day.
I want to fuck Soulkey with a Zelderan.
TheFoReveRwaR
Profile Blog Joined May 2006
United States10657 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-04-08 01:50:38
April 08 2009 01:48 GMT
#5
Ya I understand that but they can also correct their mistakes and unfair decesions.

There's a play review process in football

And in those situations no ones getting accused of being a cheater and being banned from participation. Its pretty freaking aggravating when you've been a legit player for years and all of the sudden youre banned for hacking.
Being healthy, it has been said, really consists of having the same disease as everybody else.
eXigent.
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Canada2419 Posts
April 08 2009 01:52 GMT
#6
you should make a clear well thought out post in the "complaint about an admin forum". Make sure you argue your point very well. Include different points in the replay where it can clearly show you are not hacking. Combine that with the only "possible" action they have on you, and provide 2-3 replays of other terrans doing the same thing (scouting a 3rd while meching). Odds are the admin is clueless about this game, and is just on a power trip.

the only downside to complaining about an admin, is sometimes it's the damn admin you are complaining about that responds in your thread, and closes it. I mean...how is that even fair? How can the admin you are complaining about, have the right to close the thread?
TheFoReveRwaR
Profile Blog Joined May 2006
United States10657 Posts
April 08 2009 01:53 GMT
#7
Ya my thread just got closed ALREADY without a single reason.

Fuck iccup admins.

I'm not going to even bother.

Its like trying to explain your case in a chimp court.. sigh.
Being healthy, it has been said, really consists of having the same disease as everybody else.
ThE_OsToJiY
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
Canada1167 Posts
April 08 2009 01:56 GMT
#8
2easy is a superadmin, so posting a complaint against him is useless. I tried before. (although it did get the game reversed.)

You have to realize that these guys work really hard for noprofit, so just be patient. If you didnt hack, then post it and it will most likely get fixed, don't make a thread here complaining about it unless they don't reverse the decision.
@ostojiy
Yaqoob
Profile Blog Joined March 2005
Canada3323 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-04-08 01:59:37
April 08 2009 01:57 GMT
#9
I used to be an ICCup Ladder Admin but this is really stupid. I watched the replay and their clearly was no hacking happening in it.

edit:
-----------------

System detected hack from Your side, it has bend reported for checking.
CAT admin made decision about Your ban.

-------------------------

It seems that you had another program running that was editing Starcraft like ChaosLauncher (or a hack lol) so you got banned.
김택용 Fighting!
BanZu
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States3329 Posts
April 08 2009 02:00 GMT
#10
On April 08 2009 10:56 ThE_OsToJiY wrote:
2easy is a superadmin, so posting a complaint against him is useless. I tried before. (although it did get the game reversed.)

You have to realize that these guys work really hard for noprofit, so just be patient. If you didnt hack, then post it and it will most likely get fixed, don't make a thread here complaining about it unless they don't reverse the decision.

I seriously hate it when people bring up that argument. It doesn't matter what your pay is, the quality of some of the work the admins do on iCCup seem nothing short of atrocious.
Sun Tzu once said, "Defiler becomes useless at the presences of a vessel."
maareek
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
United States2042 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-04-08 02:05:23
April 08 2009 02:02 GMT
#11
For future reference: it's never a good idea to insult idiots on a level they can understand. ;(

I only sort of know you from gaming you a few times awhile ago, but since I won several of those games with tricky builds it seems unlikely to me that you hack.

And I have little trust in the iccup detection system being foolproof enough to instate bans before (according to the thread on iccup) the case has been reviewed (what the fuck is up with that?) because I've played against confirmed, banned hackers who hacked in a game vs me that the system didn't pick up and I've had it turn on and disconnect people that were certainly not hacking as well. It seems absolutely beyond ridiculous to ban someone without any hope for appeal based on an unreviewed case by a fairly unreliable system (which, sadly, all antihack systems are).

I feel really bad for you, but I don't think there's any hope for getting that account unbanned now, since I'm sure they'll have a burr against you regardless.

Edit:

On April 08 2009 10:57 Yaqoob wrote:
I used to be an ICCup Ladder Admin but this is really stupid. I watched the replay and their clearly was no hacking happening in it.

edit:
-----------------

System detected hack from Your side, it has bend reported for checking.
CAT admin made decision about Your ban.

-------------------------

It seems that you had another program running that was editing Starcraft like ChaosLauncher (or a hack lol) so you got banned.


Several people in various threads have complained about getting that message when they had nothing running. Whether one chooses to believe them or not, it does cast at least a shadow of a doubt on the trustworthiness of that message.
FrozenArbiter: Obless PvT master
eXigent.
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Canada2419 Posts
April 08 2009 02:06 GMT
#12
I don't think being a superadmin allows you to privledge to avoid wrong decisions. I was a CAT superadmin last year, and it's painfully obvious that you were not hacking in that replay, but since the guy doesn't use his actual brain when making decisions, you are the one left to suffer.

It feels like alot of the higher up admins can do w/e they please and get away with it.


Cheloman gave my friend a site ban after he asked how to add more leaders to his team. He had asked about 5 times, to various different admins, over the course of a week. Finally iccup.mai-k helped him out and fixed his problem. 2 Minutes later, cheloman goes into the thread, and bans him for "asking the same question 5 times". My friend already had the answer, and fixed his problem....and cheloman comes in and bans him AFTER that? So basically, cheloman fucked over his whole team, because he is the one who set's the draws for the clanwars, and now he is site banned. Cheloman didnt even stop to think that he might be destroying a clan of 20 people, simply because my friend got on his nerves,......talk about a fucking powertrip.

I can't wait for sc2 to come out and ruin everything those retards take for granted.
Grobyc
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Canada18410 Posts
April 08 2009 02:29 GMT
#13
Even if those admins don't get paid to do that job it doesn't mean they can do a shitty job. That is not a valid excuse.
It's like when someone was given a temp ban because they offered to do the live report thread on some final and failed to stick around.
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Doso was just temp banned for 2 days by Plexa.

That account was created on 2008-03-07 13:46:37 and had 115 posts.

Reason: Come on... It's a final, and you're not going to stick around and update results? That's just slack

If you aren't going to do a voluntary job and put in as much effort as if you were getting paid when people rely on you and it affects them then you shouldn't have applied for the position in the first place.

I hope they apologize or something and fix it.
If you watch Godzilla backwards it's about a benevolent lizard who helps rebuild a city and then moonwalks into the ocean.
IzzyCraft
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States4487 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-04-08 02:41:04
April 08 2009 02:38 GMT
#14
On April 08 2009 10:36 TheFoReveRwaR wrote:
Hi!

Our admin stuff recieved a complaint ID2816 from this player about this game


Admin ICCup.2easyAP reviewed this complaint and denied it with this reason:

Admin's comment:
usaterran you used hack. You will be reported.

If your don't agree with this deccision you can complaint in this forum.


--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Just do it the grammar nazi way he used a noun in place of a verb, off by one letter so he must be stupid.
I have ass for brains so,
even when I shit I'm droping knowledge.
Ilikestarcraft
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
Korea (South)17726 Posts
April 08 2009 02:39 GMT
#15
On April 08 2009 10:57 Yaqoob wrote:
I used to be an ICCup Ladder Admin but this is really stupid. I watched the replay and their clearly was no hacking happening in it.

edit:
-----------------

System detected hack from Your side, it has bend reported for checking.
CAT admin made decision about Your ban.

-------------------------

It seems that you had another program running that was editing Starcraft like ChaosLauncher (or a hack lol) so you got banned.

i had that msg happen to me about 4 games in a row when I had nothing on
"Nana is a goddess. Or at very least, Nana is my goddess." - KazeHydra
TheFoReveRwaR
Profile Blog Joined May 2006
United States10657 Posts
April 08 2009 02:47 GMT
#16
Ya I had nothing running at all except launcher and bw...and I saw a lot of other s complaining about it as well.

But ya hes a superadmin so I won't even bother. Especially after I insulted him (although he deserves it...) in the haze of my nerd rage I'll move on...with far less respect for iccup admins.
Being healthy, it has been said, really consists of having the same disease as everybody else.
TheFoReveRwaR
Profile Blog Joined May 2006
United States10657 Posts
April 08 2009 02:48 GMT
#17
On April 08 2009 10:56 ThE_OsToJiY wrote:
2easy is a superadmin, so posting a complaint against him is useless. I tried before. (although it did get the game reversed.)

You have to realize that these guys work really hard for noprofit, so just be patient. If you didnt hack, then post it and it will most likely get fixed, don't make a thread here complaining about it unless they don't reverse the decision.

They didn't reverse the decesion.

They didn't even look at the replay.
Being healthy, it has been said, really consists of having the same disease as everybody else.
TheFoReveRwaR
Profile Blog Joined May 2006
United States10657 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-04-08 02:52:27
April 08 2009 02:49 GMT
#18
Oh I should mention..what made this especially irritating is I made a complaint about this game because right before I was going to win my opponent disconnected and I got no points for this game

And then as a response to my complaint I get banned lol. Awesome!

Not to mention..If I was hacking in this game..why would I call attention to it by complaining on it?
Being healthy, it has been said, really consists of having the same disease as everybody else.
eXigent.
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Canada2419 Posts
April 08 2009 02:55 GMT
#19
I saw the thread you made trying to defend yourself. The other admin didnt even take the time to watch the replay, or do ANYTHING at all, except threaten to site ban you for making fun 2easyAP. So basically he didn't give a flying shit if you were right or not, and instead of doing his job, which is to watch the replay, he simply threatened you again..

Seriously, the ladder is amazing, but some of the staff members need to jump off a cliff and die.
Sonu
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada577 Posts
April 08 2009 02:58 GMT
#20
try this. as a back up so you dont loose ur C-. make a new account, and transfer your stats away to that account. that way even if you can have ur C- and just continue laddering.
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