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IdrA
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
United States11541 Posts
April 03 2009 12:14 GMT
#21
ya it blew my mind too
i was originally making a sarcastic jab at him
then i realized it was true
O_O
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LordWeird
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
United States3411 Posts
April 03 2009 12:23 GMT
#22
On April 03 2009 21:14 IdrA wrote:
ya it blew my mind too
i was originally making a sarcastic jab at him
then i realized it was true
O_O


TBH, for the longest time I thought Spiral and myself were an unbeatable team.

I miss that guy.
Chains none
brjdrb
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
United States577 Posts
April 03 2009 12:50 GMT
#23
this is just more proof that TL really is the best sc site
Stork's biggest fan
JWD
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States12607 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-04-03 14:25:53
April 03 2009 14:25 GMT
#24
Does 4-2 really qualify as a "ROFL-stomp"? Here's my favorite part, the author's response to criticism that he's biased:

it's not biased. it's just a report on what happened. it's not taking shots at nony


Denial? You know, you'd figure that in a purely written medium where your previous statements appear above subsequent ones, it'd be impossible to say you didn't just say something that you obviously did. If this guy wants to defend himself, fine...but nothing's more frustrating than reading someone tell you that they didn't write what is sitting in plain text 100 pixels above.
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QuanticHawk
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States32135 Posts
April 03 2009 14:37 GMT
#25
I prefer the satirical, blog-ish writing over straight news recaps any day. Not everything has to be cut and dry—that's why columnists are more popular than beat reporters. (That being said, GG prolly should have put this under columns or opinion or something to distinguish it.)

That being said, this guy has some of those elements, but it's written very poorly. It had potential, but missed the mark.
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gedanbarai
Profile Joined February 2009
United States64 Posts
April 03 2009 14:43 GMT
#26
that post is classic battle report drama read it. lollololol at the people whining this is not 'journalism'. Its the web and thats a gaming site. the op hollering 'holycrap' is just a drama queen getting sucked in is exactly what that post wanted
JWD
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States12607 Posts
April 03 2009 14:53 GMT
#27
On April 03 2009 23:37 Hawk wrote:
I prefer the satirical, blog-ish writing over straight news recaps any day. Not everything has to be cut and dry—that's why columnists are more popular than beat reporters. (That being said, GG prolly should have put this under columns or opinion or something to distinguish it.)

That being said, this guy has some of those elements, but it's written very poorly. It had potential, but missed the mark.


I'd give him the benefit of the doubt and say that it's just poorly written satire...if he didn't claim it was unbiased reportage in the comments.
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QuanticHawk
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States32135 Posts
April 03 2009 14:56 GMT
#28
Oh, didn't see that. Well, that's just stupid. Writing like that has a place, just not under 'reporting'

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Kennigit *
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
Canada19447 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-04-03 15:17:25
April 03 2009 15:06 GMT
#29
lol this is why you dont do open calls for staff....It's kind of funny that even gosugamers netizens are telling him its ridiculous.

edit: to be fair though, not ALL gg articles are like that. I actually quite like Raistlin's stuff (ie interview with artosis).
QuanticHawk
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States32135 Posts
April 03 2009 15:07 GMT
#30
And, not trying to be a dick, but your news article has a few subtle hints of opinion in there (but overall, it's a well written recap) Dunno if you were going for a true news recap of a series (zero opinion) or but just pointing it out!

Or it could just be that we don't have an opinion area in our news, and I'm just being anal. Whatev~~
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JWD
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States12607 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-04-03 15:54:19
April 03 2009 15:51 GMT
#31
On April 04 2009 00:07 Hawk wrote:
And, not trying to be a dick, but your news article has a few subtle hints of opinion in there (but overall, it's a well written recap) Dunno if you were going for a true news recap of a series (zero opinion) or but just pointing it out!

Or it could just be that we don't have an opinion area in our news, and I'm just being anal. Whatev~~


(If this is addressed at me: ) I'm absolutely not saying there's no place for opinion in SC articles - like you, I'd rather read an opinionated article than a completely balanced one, even if I disagree with the opinion expressed.

But an opinion piece that features either some clever digs at a certain player or just a good argument is totally different from over-the-top, borderline-slanderous bullshit that has little basis in reality. When you find yourself wondering if a piece's author even watched the games in question, his "opinion" piece has wandered a bit too far from the facts.

Point is: opinion articles / commentary / clever satire? Great! Plain old exaggeration claimed as unbiased reportage? Not so hot.
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ghermination
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
United States2851 Posts
April 03 2009 15:55 GMT
#32
ugh. The members of that site seem to be about as stupid as myspace and youtube users.
U Gotta Skate.
QuanticHawk
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States32135 Posts
April 03 2009 16:39 GMT
#33
On April 04 2009 00:51 JWD wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 04 2009 00:07 Hawk wrote:
And, not trying to be a dick, but your news article has a few subtle hints of opinion in there (but overall, it's a well written recap) Dunno if you were going for a true news recap of a series (zero opinion) or but just pointing it out!

Or it could just be that we don't have an opinion area in our news, and I'm just being anal. Whatev~~


(If this is addressed at me: ) I'm absolutely not saying there's no place for opinion in SC articles - like you, I'd rather read an opinionated article than a completely balanced one, even if I disagree with the opinion expressed.

But an opinion piece that features either some clever digs at a certain player or just a good argument is totally different from over-the-top, borderline-slanderous bullshit that has little basis in reality. When you find yourself wondering if a piece's author even watched the games in question, his "opinion" piece has wandered a bit too far from the facts.

Point is: opinion articles / commentary / clever satire? Great! Plain old exaggeration claimed as unbiased reportage? Not so hot.


Oh yeah, I totally agree with you completely, and I was just making an observation, not knocking your writing in the slightest. I'm just being a news nerd and being anal, cuz that's commentary more than news (which is what it's filed under on the main page). Putting the byline as 'Commentary by JWD' is more appropriate than 'by JWD', since the latter gives the impression that it's news and void of opinion.

Maybe something for the mods to think about, since we're sitting here talking about how that article is easily misinterpreted as news. Frankly, he could take a big old dump on Nony for all I care, as long as it's not pretending to be news.
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HiOT
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
Sweden1000 Posts
April 03 2009 17:20 GMT
#34
I love number 41's comment..
Officially the founder of Team Property (:
JWD
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States12607 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-04-03 17:36:33
April 03 2009 17:29 GMT
#35
Putting the byline as 'Commentary by JWD' is more appropriate than 'by JWD', since the latter gives the impression that it's news and void of opinion.


This is a good point - but I'd argue that people already know to expect commentary from TL's "News" section. Straight SC "News" was much more in demand at TL's time of birth, when the game's foreign following was smaller and VODs were damn near impossible to come across. These days, everyone can cruise to YouTube to watch games and about a billion other places to see their results. Thus, to remain useful, most SC writers have started writing commentary rather than just reports.

Actually I think that the "battle report" is dead (and with good reason) - it takes as long to read a detailed battle report as it does to simply watch the game in question. What I look for in SC coverage is smart analysis (both of in-game events like strategy decisions and more general happenings in the scene).
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QuanticHawk
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States32135 Posts
April 03 2009 17:50 GMT
#36
Oh yeah, I think that's what most people expect coming here. My idea was just to make it more professional, and for the few idiots who couldn't grasp that.

It's actually really interesting, cuz the evolution of coverage closely mirrors journalism as a whole :o It's kinda like a hybrid of a blog and a column—cool stuff.

Anyway, keep it up dude

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JWD
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States12607 Posts
April 03 2009 18:03 GMT
#37
On April 04 2009 02:50 Hawk wrote:
Anyway, keep it up dude



Thanks man!! Good chatting with ya ^^
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SayaSP
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Laos5494 Posts
April 03 2009 18:15 GMT
#38
On April 03 2009 21:11 H wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 03 2009 20:48 IdrA wrote:
their quality has really gone down since sp1ra1arch1tect left


whoa, whoa


whoa

lmao
[iHs]SSP | I-NO-KI BOM-BA-YE | のヮの http://tinyurl.com/MLIStheCV , MLIS.
R3condite
Profile Joined August 2008
Korea (South)1541 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-04-03 18:21:04
April 03 2009 18:18 GMT
#39
LOL "i'm a funny nerd"

haha that IS funny...

the worst part is THEY USED OUR F-ING BANNER TOO!
jeez...

On April 04 2009 00:51 JWD wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 04 2009 00:07 Hawk wrote:
And, not trying to be a dick, but your news article has a few subtle hints of opinion in there (but overall, it's a well written recap) Dunno if you were going for a true news recap of a series (zero opinion) or but just pointing it out!

Or it could just be that we don't have an opinion area in our news, and I'm just being anal. Whatev~~


(If this is addressed at me: ) I'm absolutely not saying there's no place for opinion in SC articles - like you, I'd rather read an opinionated article than a completely balanced one, even if I disagree with the opinion expressed.

But an opinion piece that features either some clever digs at a certain player or just a good argument is totally different from over-the-top, borderline-slanderous bullshit that has little basis in reality. When you find yourself wondering if a piece's author even watched the games in question, his "opinion" piece has wandered a bit too far from the facts.

Point is: opinion articles / commentary / clever satire? Great! Plain old exaggeration claimed as unbiased reportage? Not so hot.

most of the time though i hate reading op eds
ggyo...
Ganfei
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Taiwan1439 Posts
April 03 2009 18:22 GMT
#40
Haha, what a fucking terrible report. I don't like Nony and even I couldn't bring myself to write such a dickish report. That guy should definitely not be staff or news crew.
You are crushing me like a cheese sandwich
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