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Re: TSL2... an idea

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talismania
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States2364 Posts
March 21 2009 02:57 GMT
#1
Kind of a simple one that I'm sure someone else has thought of, but here goes.

1)TSL2 can't happen because there aren't any sponsors. No sponsors = no money = no players.

2)SC2GG starleague was a fun community tournament. Then just 400 dollars of prize money was added, and it brought out all the top players in a matter of days.

3)Just 400 dollars, most of which was apparently donated by the SC2GG staff.

4)People on TL really want to see TSL2

5)People on TL would probably spare 1 - 25 dollars to see it happen.

6)The rest is obvious... set up a TSL2 donation paypal account, let people donate, I'm sure at least 1000$ total in prize money could be raised. It might not be enough to match the 10K TSL1 had, but hey, if it brings the top foreigners out, it brings them out. And who knows how much longer we'll have, with SC2 around the corner, to get in more foreigner SCBW events.

Thoughts?

*
Conquest101
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
United States1395 Posts
March 21 2009 02:59 GMT
#2
Mods/Staff members have already stated multiple times that TSL2 won't happen because of the time commitment required, NOT because of money/sponsorship issues.

Which sucks cause I'd love to have a TSL2.

Maybe volunteer work instead of money?
eatmyshorts5
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States1530 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-03-21 03:00:07
March 21 2009 02:59 GMT
#3
I missed the first TSL, but from what i understand it was awesome. I would like to see another one. I like your idea.

But i'm just a noob so i don't know the circumstances that well.

EDIT: ^Ok now i understand.
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talismania
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States2364 Posts
March 21 2009 03:00 GMT
#4
Maybe take some of the $ to pay staff for their aid? 10%?

That can ease the time committment...
micronesia
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States24676 Posts
March 21 2009 03:00 GMT
#5
I think TSL only works when you have a core group of very talented staff who work well together; most people wouldn't be able to get in on helping out...
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Archaic
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States4024 Posts
March 21 2009 03:01 GMT
#6
I blame the economy. When in doubt, blame random world issues.
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Profile Blog Joined May 2003
24492 Posts
March 21 2009 03:04 GMT
#7
On March 21 2009 12:01 Archaic wrote:
I blame the economy. When in doubt, blame random world issues.


I call hot dogs. making people fat, and who knows wtf are in them





mmmmmm... hot dogs
Last Romantic
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
United States20661 Posts
March 21 2009 03:08 GMT
#8
Kennigit alluded to this before in his inside MIR post.

The reason there hasn't been a TSL2 isn't because of lack of sponsors - we get offers on a fairly consistent basis - but because the staff are busy with school/work/whatever else so it simply hasn't been a good time.
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talismania
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States2364 Posts
March 21 2009 03:13 GMT
#9
On March 21 2009 12:08 Last Romantic wrote:
Kennigit alluded to this before in his inside MIR post.

The reason there hasn't been a TSL2 isn't because of lack of sponsors - we get offers on a fairly consistent basis - but because the staff are busy with school/work/whatever else so it simply hasn't been a good time.


:-(

Summertime, maybe?
fusionsdf
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
Canada15390 Posts
March 21 2009 03:24 GMT
#10
On March 21 2009 11:57 talismania wrote:
Kind of a simple one that I'm sure someone else has thought of, but here goes.

1)TSL2 can't happen because there aren't any sponsors. No sponsors = no money = no players.



Pretty big assumption you got going there
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talismania
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States2364 Posts
March 21 2009 03:43 GMT
#11
I swear I saw Kennigit make a post somewhere to that effect... it wasn't an assumption. I apparently missed the MIR thread reference though.
Eti307
Profile Blog Joined March 2004
Canada3442 Posts
March 21 2009 03:43 GMT
#12
no sponsors?

I'm pretty sure we have sponsors willing to invest in TSL2. Money is not the only thing needed for something as big as another TSL. It takes a lot of work.

My guess is TSL2 will happen before Starcraft2 beta
Skyze
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Canada2324 Posts
March 21 2009 03:52 GMT
#13
well.. I doubt it, unless TSL2 happens in the next 2-3 weeks.
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Dgtl
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada889 Posts
March 21 2009 04:03 GMT
#14
I hope that TL can at least have another TSL even if we have to wait for SC2.
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Durak
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Canada3684 Posts
March 21 2009 04:44 GMT
#15
On March 21 2009 12:52 Skyze wrote:
well.. I doubt it, unless TSL2 happens in the next 2-3 weeks.


It's our only hope. All the staff are going to be playing the sc2 beta, even the ones who disliked it.
Divinek
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
Canada4045 Posts
March 21 2009 05:26 GMT
#16
On March 21 2009 11:57 talismania wrote:
Kind of a simple one that I'm sure someone else has thought of, but here goes.

1)TSL2 can't happen because there aren't any sponsors. No sponsors = no money = no players.

2)SC2GG starleague was a fun community tournament. Then just 400 dollars of prize money was added, and it brought out all the top players in a matter of days.

3)Just 400 dollars, most of which was apparently donated by the SC2GG staff.

4)People on TL really want to see TSL2

5)People on TL would probably spare 1 - 25 dollars to see it happen.

6)The rest is obvious... set up a TSL2 donation paypal account, let people donate, I'm sure at least 1000$ total in prize money could be raised. It might not be enough to match the 10K TSL1 had, but hey, if it brings the top foreigners out, it brings them out. And who knows how much longer we'll have, with SC2 around the corner, to get in more foreigner SCBW events.

Thoughts?


TSL2 will happen in the summer.
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SwaY-
Profile Joined March 2009
Dominican Republic463 Posts
March 21 2009 06:23 GMT
#17
On March 21 2009 12:08 Last Romantic wrote:
Kennigit alluded to this before in his inside MIR post.

The reason there hasn't been a TSL2 isn't because of lack of sponsors - we get offers on a fairly consistent basis - but because the staff are busy with school/work/whatever else so it simply hasn't been a good time.

So no TSL2 before SC2?
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Duke
Profile Blog Joined May 2006
United States1106 Posts
March 21 2009 14:26 GMT
#18
On March 21 2009 12:08 Last Romantic wrote:
Kennigit alluded to this before in his inside MIR post.

The reason there hasn't been a TSL2 isn't because of lack of sponsors - we get offers on a fairly consistent basis - but because the staff are busy with school/work/whatever else so it simply hasn't been a good time.


I had missed this for some reason - have you guys considered picking up more staff? There's hardly a lack of volunteers in this community!
Kennigit *
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
Canada19447 Posts
March 22 2009 00:14 GMT
#19
never heard of it.
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