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On March 19 2009 16:27 SingletonWilliam wrote:
Edit: LOOOOOOOOOOOL Mission San Jose
I've been in the wrestling tournament that Mission holds every year. The school is asian. I looked at the cross country team pictures one year and it had like 4 white kids on a team of like 41 asians.
Haha, yea. MSJ is still about 70% Asian I think.
Basketball and baseball are like the only sports we have with a good amount of non-Asians (wrestling too maybe?)
On March 19 2009 16:27 SpiritoftheTunA wrote:
you place too much of your self esteem on which colleges you can get into
if you backed a step up, you'd realize that UCI and UCD are fucking good, and the only thing really different in equality of education is in specific programs
After thinking about what you said, too true. Everyone at my school places so much emphasis on what college they get into though.
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MSJ, really? haha do you know... um... ill PM you with some names
i go to harker in SJ xD
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You know what your mistake is? Your mistake is going to one of the best high schools in California. If you went to a crappy school, you would have got into UC Berkeley. Going to a good school means that you'll get a lower GPA. Going to a crappy school means you'll get a 4.5 without knowing anything. But, you're gonna have an advantage over other college freshmen because you went to a rigorous high school.
It seems that most people in this thread doesn't parental pressure and what goes on in competitive schools. Going to a good college is a symbol for how good you are.
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oh no I got into [insert random decent college here] instead of [random better college here]
LIFE IS PAIN
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is awesome32280 Posts
People need to stop thinking of university as magical machines that turn you into a professional.
A good university will be better for you if you like to study yes, but it's 95%+ hard work/vocation and the rest is just random factors, and one of them is university.
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On March 19 2009 16:27 Fontong wrote:
Ah yeah, I was thinking Monta Vista/Gunn but that's pretty close too.
Hey MV, my high school!
Anyway, I think about the same way you do, and if I don't get into at least UCSD (next year), I will be very, very fucking disappointed in myself...Guys, that's just how it is in some schools. Many people at my school (myself included) have the mentality that a B grade is unacceptable and UCI and UCD are for the worse off people.
On a side note, I'm fairly sure MV or Gunn hold a higher ranking than Mission.
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MV/lynbrook/gunn/paly/mission are all about the same to me
i would've gone to MV if i hadn't gone to harker (I went to kennedy for middle school)
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is awesome32280 Posts
God I hate number based test and means of filtering people out. They are as subjective as the teacher picking with the finger who should pass a test / school and who shouldn't.
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On March 19 2009 17:02 T.O.P. wrote:
You know what your mistake is? Your mistake is going to one of the best high schools in California. If you went to a crappy school, you would have got into UC Berkeley. Going to a good school means that you'll get a lower GPA. Going to a crappy school means you'll get a 4.5 without knowing anything. But, you're gonna have an advantage over other college freshmen because you went to a rigorous high school.
It seems that most people in this thread doesn't parental pressure and what goes on in competitive schools. Going to a good college is a symbol for how good you are.
The dumbest thing ive ever heard...
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On March 19 2009 17:02 T.O.P. wrote:It seems that most people in this thread doesn't parental pressure and what goes on in competitive schools. Going to a good college is a symbol for how good you are.
Stop giving us asians bad rep! ><
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Dude...that was a great story. So heartfelt. Ignore the people bashing you. These people have not felt your pain and your struggles.
You are still in high school, you are young and naive. I am a few years older, and I can say with certainty how much you will grow over the next couple years. I love how you wrote, "I entered my information and read the letter. There it is again. The rejection letter. I had to read it over again to make sure." That is beautiful man. It reminds me of an English class, where I spent a week working on my paper, even working on it with an author, to a point where this paper was no longer a paper, it was me. I ended up with a C, and I was crushed. Crushed.
You see man, these people, they don't know the pain you are feeling because they have never done something so passionately with so much intent. Most people are content with mediocrity, and to those who are not, mediocrity is our worst enemy. You know this. You feel this.
Listen, I don't know who you are. I have an idea, but I really have no clue. You could be the next Charles Manson. I'm sure you've heard all the old cliches like "Don't give up" or "Keep trying!" Ignore them as well. Those cliches are the tools of the masses to rationalize their lives. Instead, feel exactly what you feel: the pain, the rage, the shame, and just remember it. Just fucking remember it man.
And when it comes down to crunch time, when its you against the world, you'll remember that pain, that rage, that shame. And then man, you'll know what to do.
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lol the elitism that some people exude is pretty disgusting. like "OMG I GO TO X COLLEGE THAT IS RATED (insert number 5-20) IN THE COUNTRY BY Y SOURCE! I AM AUTO-SUCCESSFUL AND SET FOR LIFE AND SO SMART AND AMAZING AND MUMMY IS SO PROUD OF ME ANYONE WHO GOES TO A WORSE COLLEGE IS A FAILURE BOUND FOR MCDONALDS AND ANYONE WHO GOES TO A BETTER COLLEGE IS JUST A LUCKY NERD WHO GOT IN THROUGH SPECIAL CONNECTIONS."
Yeah, i've heard people actually spew that shit, I used to a cute little nerd in like junior high thinking that going to a college with a selectivity rating than a 90 on princetonreview.com meant you were bound for a life in the fast food industry.
Anyway, by 10th grade I realized how ridiculous this point of view was and by 11th grade I stopped caring because I realized paying 40k+ per year to go to a top private school just really wasn't worth it to me (a random middle-class kid whose parents make like $80k or so per year). I did well enough to keep my parents happy and graduated like a 4.0 because my high school was a joke. I go to a pretty decent university now (penn state), not amazing, but affordable, not far from my home, and has pretty much any major/program under the sun available since it's such a big university.
A lot of my friends are going to community college and I have no feelings of superiority at all, not everyone has the financial resources, parental support, or real need to go on to anything better than small, affordable local college or community college. I mean after graduating, the degrees are all the same and the level of education is not that much different. I really think that the amount of passion you have for your field of study and how much work you are willing to put in are so important to how far you are going to get in life. I mean, obviously an employer is going to favor hose who go to top universities. like, "oh, you went to harvard? HEY SECRETARY TELL THAT KID IN THE LOBBY WHO WENT COMMUNITY COLLEGE WAITING TO APPLY GG NO RE." However, if that community college student has a 4.0, multiple internships and work experience during college, good recommendations from professors along with an obvious aptitude and genuine interest in his line of work, then he or she is going to be chosen over a harvard grad with a 2.0 GPA and no obvious passion for what he or she does. Also, if you are going into a field not for the money, but because you really enjoy the work, why worry about how prestigious the university you went to was if you are going to making roughly same modest amount of money, and have to worry about paying back a student loan that is going to be $100k+. Is that huge debt you are going to leave school with worth it to be able to brag to people that you went to a better university than them?
sorry if this doesn't all make too much sense, I am playing a crapload of tables of poker as I write this lol.
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On March 19 2009 18:06 Exteray wrote:
what rank were u in HS?
My GPA is horrible. I was ranked something like 200/550.
Unweighted UC GPA is ~3.75 and weighted UC GPA is ~4 I think
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Well if you were a really really smart student you would've applied to other schools like Stanford, Harvard, Prineceton, etc? But sorry about you not making in, by no means are they bad schools.
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I know what you mean by saying you've always thought of yourself as "superior". I used to think that way as well, simply because I would generally understand a lot of things other people didn't. Perhaps superior isn't the right word, maybe just having higher expectations for myself.
However, once in the university, I began to start thinking everyone was basically equal (there are exceptions..). Perhaps it was because my intelligence in relation to my peers diminished. However, I now genuinely think that pretty much anyone has the capability of learning anything. For example, I am confident that I could get any degree offered by my university (perhaps not all Phds).
The key to learning is your attitude. If you have noticed, most really smart people are really nice, and they will take time out for you to explain something to you. This is because the act of always being willing to listen and explain things is what allowed them to attain the level that they are at. Even if you ask really basic/dumb questions, they will treat you like you are equal in intelligence to themselves, in my experience.
What I'm saying is that you should not base your intelligence off what school you are accepted to. That is flawed for a number of reasons. You need not "swallow your pride", you must simply learn from this experience. Thats what is important, always learning new things and being flexible. Being weak and brittle as you are now is not the key to learning. It is being humble and flexible.
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I can't help but think, while reading this, that you had this coming. Despite what you say, I still think you have a superiority complex, and now it's come to bite you in the ass when a normal person would've been perfectly happy to get into those schools.
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On March 20 2009 14:49 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:
I can't help but think, while reading this, that you had this coming. Despite what you say, I still think you have a superiority complex, and now it's come to bite you in the ass when a normal person would've been perfectly happy to get into those schools.
My standards were high; I know that my high school specs going into college applications weren't good. Even so, perhaps I do.
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On March 20 2009 13:54 BanZu wrote:My GPA is horrible. I was ranked something like 200/550. Unweighted UC GPA is ~3.75 and weighted UC GPA is ~4 I think
No offense or anything, but expecting to get into a top level school with only a weighted 4.0 is pushing it.
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On March 20 2009 15:13 Fr33t wrote:Show nested quote +On March 20 2009 13:54 BanZu wrote:On March 19 2009 18:06 Exteray wrote:
what rank were u in HS? My GPA is horrible. I was ranked something like 200/550. Unweighted UC GPA is ~3.75 and weighted UC GPA is ~4 I think No offense or anything, but expecting to get into a top level school with only a weighted 4.0 is pushing it.
I know that but plenty of people I know with worse/same GPA and worse/same SAT1/2 scores as me got into UCSD and UCLA.
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