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motbob
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States12546 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-03-18 08:11:30
March 18 2009 07:51 GMT
#1
Mere speculation, but Artosis is pretty close to the pro scene.

http://www.scforall.com/news/news_view.asp?mNum=n02&articleNum=867&PageNo=1

EDIT: Excerpt
On March 13th, the KTF MagicNs were able to acquire the 2008 Arena MSL champion, Park Ji Soo aka ForGG. This leaves the team with one more spot to fill for the 4th round of the Shinhan Bank Pro League 08-09 season, which just happens to be a Protoss position.


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EvoChamber
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
France2505 Posts
March 18 2009 07:57 GMT
#2
Um, ew?
That's not awful writing, DAMMIT. It's perfectly sensical english construction.
Last Romantic
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
United States20666 Posts
March 18 2009 07:59 GMT
#3
More content in OP please. One sentence and a link is shady ;p.
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motbob
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States12546 Posts
March 18 2009 08:00 GMT
#4
On March 18 2009 16:59 Last Romantic wrote:
More content in OP please. One sentence and a link is shady ;p.

It's a blog. If I had more content I'd make a post in BW. Also, scforall is run by our good friend Artosis.
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Jayme
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States5866 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-03-18 08:02:25
March 18 2009 08:00 GMT
#5
I don't believe this and as such i'm not clicking that link.

If Stork goes to KTF then well.. KTF becomes just about unstoppable....

Like... that trade would be so insanely expensive. Stork has slipped before and then come back to win an OSL, he's a fairly invaluable player.
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Scaramanga
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Australia8093 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-03-18 09:56:34
March 18 2009 08:01 GMT
#6
mod edit: we're not gosugamers ;( no complete c/p please~

Edit: ohk, sorry
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motbob
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States12546 Posts
March 18 2009 08:04 GMT
#7
Blah. I don't like this policy on TL of, "Let's just copy whatever we want." We copy Fomos pictures, translate their stories and interviews, host OGN and MBC VODs, and even copy and paste English articles from for-profit websites. I would imagine that most of that stuff is without any kind of permission.
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PH
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States6173 Posts
March 18 2009 08:06 GMT
#8
I will cry myself to sleep when I find out Stork leaves Samsung. Imagining seeing him in orange just gives me shivers...

I picked Samsung as my team in the little bottom-right-of-post-box thing because of Stork.

Since Stork is a free agent (has that gone into effect yet?), does that mean he would have the option to leave Samsung regardless of their wishes?
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Jayme
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States5866 Posts
March 18 2009 08:06 GMT
#9
On March 18 2009 17:04 motbob wrote:
Blah. I don't like this policy on TL of, "Let's just copy whatever we want." We copy Fomos pictures, translate their stories and interviews, host OGN and MBC VODs, and even copy and paste English articles from for-profit websites. I would imagine that most of that stuff is without any kind of permission.


You know how laws work don't you?

If you aren't making any profit from it then as long as you site your sources you are completely free to use those pictures/stories/interviews.

They could of course stop TL if they wanted to and they KNOW that TL exists... it's far too big of a website in the SC scene for them not to know.
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Last Romantic
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
United States20666 Posts
March 18 2009 08:07 GMT
#10
On March 18 2009 17:06 Jayme wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 18 2009 17:04 motbob wrote:
Blah. I don't like this policy on TL of, "Let's just copy whatever we want." We copy Fomos pictures, translate their stories and interviews, host OGN and MBC VODs, and even copy and paste English articles from for-profit websites. I would imagine that most of that stuff is without any kind of permission.


You know how laws work don't you?

If you aren't making any profit from it then as long as you site your sources you are completely free to use those pictures/stories/interviews.

They could of course stop TL if they wanted to and they KNOW that TL exists... it's far too big of a website in the SC scene for them not to know.


We don't copy/paste English articles.

Translation and picture usage is always cited in Teamliquid sanction posts.
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TaP.Nuada
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
United States428 Posts
March 18 2009 08:08 GMT
#11
On March 18 2009 17:04 motbob wrote:
Blah. I don't like this policy on TL of, "Let's just copy whatever we want." We copy Fomos pictures, translate their stories and interviews, host OGN and MBC VODs, and even copy and paste English articles from for-profit websites. I would imagine that most of that stuff is without any kind of permission.

Welcome to the inter net.


I dont' think stork switching to KTF would be that big of a deal... would KTF really be overpowered?
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motbob
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States12546 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-03-18 08:10:20
March 18 2009 08:09 GMT
#12
On March 18 2009 17:06 Jayme wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 18 2009 17:04 motbob wrote:
Blah. I don't like this policy on TL of, "Let's just copy whatever we want." We copy Fomos pictures, translate their stories and interviews, host OGN and MBC VODs, and even copy and paste English articles from for-profit websites. I would imagine that most of that stuff is without any kind of permission.


You know how laws work don't you?

If you aren't making any profit from it then as long as you site your sources you are completely free to use those pictures/stories/interviews.

They could of course stop TL if they wanted to and they KNOW that TL exists... it's far too big of a website in the SC scene for them not to know.

You seem to be saying that it's OK to copy, as long as we give it away for free. That may be true with material under a Creative Commons license, but it's certainly not true most of the time. For example I cannot give away music simply because I am "doing it for free."

EDIT: and didn't we get in trouble with Fomos at one point for translating their interviews?
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Mastermind
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Canada7096 Posts
March 18 2009 08:10 GMT
#13
Would this mean I would have to start liking Flash and Luxury? ewwww no thanks.
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Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Hong Kong4685 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-03-18 08:13:10
March 18 2009 08:12 GMT
#14
I don't think Samsung would sell stork. Samsung is such a rich team. There's no reason that they'll be selling players rather than buying players. All those amateurs want to go to samsung because samusng is a rich team.
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dekuschrub
Profile Joined May 2008
United States2069 Posts
March 18 2009 08:13 GMT
#15
hahah KTF= New York Yankees

if this is true...

seriously ktf is just like

you macro? WE BUY GOGOG
Rice
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States1332 Posts
March 18 2009 08:18 GMT
#16
why would samsung sell one of their aces?

that doesnt make any sense
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Mista
Profile Joined January 2009
Singapore1022 Posts
March 18 2009 08:20 GMT
#17
It's ok Samsung KHAN still has JangBi who i think will overtake Bisu in the near future as no1 toss.
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motbob
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States12546 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-03-18 08:23:53
March 18 2009 08:22 GMT
#18
On March 18 2009 17:18 Rice wrote:
why would samsung sell one of their aces?

that doesnt make any sense

If the price is right, anything is possible. Maybe they'll trade ForGG :D

Samsung needs a good Terran, after all.

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Kentor *
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States5784 Posts
March 18 2009 08:23 GMT
#19
i hate ktf
GTR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
51693 Posts
March 18 2009 08:28 GMT
#20
wouldn't be surprised that samsung would give up stork given that they want to focus on jangbi these days
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Vasoline73
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States8094 Posts
March 18 2009 08:30 GMT
#21
Oh man Stork on KTF? Would be great for the team... but feels so wrong .
GGQ
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Canada2653 Posts
March 18 2009 08:30 GMT
#22
It's more like SC2GG "suggests" rather than "says", from my understanding of the article.
dekuschrub
Profile Joined May 2008
United States2069 Posts
March 18 2009 08:35 GMT
#23
ktf just needs new uniforms to be the most badass team

not that they werent already from the old days
iLoveKT
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Philippines3615 Posts
March 18 2009 08:41 GMT
#24
wow. KTF keeps buying non-KTF players that I like. nice coincidence if this is true ofc. Now they have to pick up Mind to continue the trend. :D
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TheFoReveRwaR
Profile Blog Joined May 2006
United States10657 Posts
March 18 2009 08:42 GMT
#25
On March 18 2009 17:20 Mista wrote:
It's ok Samsung KHAN still has JangBi who i think will overtake Bisu in the near future as no1 toss.

What makes you think that? Bisu destoryed him easily 3-1 last time they played. Which was very recently.
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brjdrb
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
United States577 Posts
March 18 2009 08:45 GMT
#26
i seriously doubt this. although khan would still have jangbi, stork is a pillar of that team. there's nothing that says he won't return to top form, and his wisdom / experience are still invaluable. and there's no way samsung would trade away all of the stork fans. this is just ridiculous. also, y they speculate that khan would be more willing to give up stork than skt1 would give up best is beyond me. imo, stork's doing better than him, and there's no way he'd be less expensive -.-
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Ota Solgryn
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Denmark2011 Posts
March 18 2009 08:47 GMT
#27
On March 18 2009 17:13 dekuschrub wrote:
hahah KTF= New York Yankees

if this is true...

seriously ktf is just like

you macro? WE BUY GOGOG

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liger13
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States1060 Posts
March 18 2009 08:49 GMT
#28
ooh... now they just need to buy savior, jaedong, boxer, oov, nada... and it'd be set
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Julmust
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Sweden4867 Posts
March 18 2009 08:49 GMT
#29
On March 18 2009 17:04 motbob wrote:
Blah. I don't like this policy on TL of, "Let's just copy whatever we want." We copy Fomos pictures, translate their stories and interviews, host OGN and MBC VODs, and even copy and paste English articles from for-profit websites. I would imagine that most of that stuff is without any kind of permission.



Yes! I fully agree! Lets not translate korean articles anymore! Just learn korean you lazy bastards, I mean how hard can it really be? And lets all move to korea so we can take out own pictures of progamers to use in a thread reporting the score of WL/MSL/OSL! There we can also get full access to the live TV.

Also lets never link to a pro-profit site again so it can get its revenue![/sarcasm]
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anotak
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States1537 Posts
March 18 2009 08:53 GMT
#30
isn't stork a free agent? meaning samsung would have no say?
GTR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
51693 Posts
March 18 2009 09:01 GMT
#31
On March 18 2009 17:53 anotak wrote:
isn't stork a free agent? meaning samsung would have no say?


if ktf do approach him, samsung still has them first rights or whatever
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Zoler
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Sweden6339 Posts
March 18 2009 09:02 GMT
#32
I hope Stork goes to KTF! My favorite toss with my favorite terran + forGG would be NICE
Lim Yo Hwan forever!
motbob
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States12546 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-03-18 09:08:52
March 18 2009 09:05 GMT
#33
On March 18 2009 17:49 SnowFalling wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 18 2009 17:04 motbob wrote:
Blah. I don't like this policy on TL of, "Let's just copy whatever we want." We copy Fomos pictures, translate their stories and interviews, host OGN and MBC VODs, and even copy and paste English articles from for-profit websites. I would imagine that most of that stuff is without any kind of permission.



Yes! I fully agree! Lets not translate korean articles anymore! Just learn korean you lazy bastards, I mean how hard can it really be? And lets all move to korea so we can take out own pictures of progamers to use in a thread reporting the score of WL/MSL/OSL! There we can also get full access to the live TV.

Also lets never link to a pro-profit site again so it can get its revenue![/sarcasm]

Please read my post again so that you might see how badly you missed my point. Your last sentence, especially, doesn't make any sense. Thanks!
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Divinek
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
Canada4045 Posts
March 18 2009 09:12 GMT
#34
On March 18 2009 17:08 TaP.Nuada wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 18 2009 17:04 motbob wrote:
Blah. I don't like this policy on TL of, "Let's just copy whatever we want." We copy Fomos pictures, translate their stories and interviews, host OGN and MBC VODs, and even copy and paste English articles from for-profit websites. I would imagine that most of that stuff is without any kind of permission.

Welcome to the inter net.


I dont' think stork switching to KTF would be that big of a deal... would KTF really be overpowered?


Lets see...

Flash , forgg, luxury, and add stork to that?
You have an ace from every race then.
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baubo
Profile Joined September 2008
China3370 Posts
March 18 2009 09:23 GMT
#35
Anyone in Korea know how much Samsung actually spends on the team? They've always been a fairly frugal team in terms of dealings. Heavy on the strategies(i.e. 2v2 specialists) to win proleague despite a thin roster in the past. So I've always figured that their parent company doesn't really care about the team like KTF or SKT1.

But I can't think that they'd be so underfunded as to give away by far their most marketable player? I mean, Samsung is the largest company in Korea. And it's not like Khan has some up and coming protoss who can quickly take Stork's place.
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jodogohoo
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Canada2533 Posts
March 18 2009 09:54 GMT
#36
On March 18 2009 18:23 baubo wrote:
And it's not like Khan has some up and coming protoss who can quickly take Stork's place.

lol wut
Vasoline73
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States8094 Posts
March 18 2009 10:00 GMT
#37
On March 18 2009 18:54 jodogohoo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 18 2009 18:23 baubo wrote:
And it's not like Khan has some up and coming protoss who can quickly take Stork's place.

lol wut

Uh...?

If you're talking about Jangbi... I wouldn't really call him up and coming.
Racenilatr
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States2756 Posts
March 18 2009 10:22 GMT
#38
I think Jangbi will have his moment He is already pretty decent
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Profile Blog Joined June 2004
United States2140 Posts
March 18 2009 10:24 GMT
#39
actually i didn't know/hear/write that. crazy if they actually would give up stork!
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renegade_zerg
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
Korea (South)525 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-03-18 11:36:49
March 18 2009 10:35 GMT
#40
On March 18 2009 18:01 GTR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 18 2009 17:53 anotak wrote:
isn't stork a free agent? meaning samsung would have no say?


if ktf do approach him, samsung still has them first rights or whatever


if stork is indeed a free agent, samsung khan doesnt have any rights on behalf of stork. Any team can bid to obtain him, but ultimately Stork decides where he wants to go. Samsung Khan, on the otherhand, can match or beat offers from other teams to try to persuade him to stay.
Zoler
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Sweden6339 Posts
March 18 2009 10:55 GMT
#41
On March 18 2009 19:35 renegade_zerg wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 18 2009 18:01 GTR wrote:
On March 18 2009 17:53 anotak wrote:
isn't stork a free agent? meaning samsung would have no say?


if ktf do approach him, samsung still has them first rights or whatever


if stork is indeed a free agent, samsung khan doesnt have any rights on behalf of stork. Any team can bid to obtain him, but ultimately Stork decides where he wants to go. Samsung Khan, on the otherhand, can match or beat offers from other teams to try and keep him


What if he has friends in KTF that he would like to join or that he thinks that he would have better practice there?
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FirstBorn
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
Romania3955 Posts
March 18 2009 10:56 GMT
#42
Stork to KTF might be good for his career. He might get more attention there and it might help him get some confidence back since Jangbi has been stealing his glory lately.
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renegade_zerg
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
Korea (South)525 Posts
March 18 2009 11:05 GMT
#43
On March 18 2009 19:55 Zoler wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 18 2009 19:35 renegade_zerg wrote:
On March 18 2009 18:01 GTR wrote:
On March 18 2009 17:53 anotak wrote:
isn't stork a free agent? meaning samsung would have no say?


if ktf do approach him, samsung still has them first rights or whatever


if stork is indeed a free agent, samsung khan doesnt have any rights on behalf of stork. Any team can bid to obtain him, but ultimately Stork decides where he wants to go. Samsung Khan, on the otherhand, can match or beat offers from other teams to try and keep him


What if he has friends in KTF that he would like to join or that he thinks that he would have better practice there?


Then Samsung Khan can't stop him from leaving. Which was the point of my earlier post directed at GTR's comment.
baubo
Profile Joined September 2008
China3370 Posts
March 18 2009 11:20 GMT
#44
On March 18 2009 18:54 jodogohoo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 18 2009 18:23 baubo wrote:
And it's not like Khan has some up and coming protoss who can quickly take Stork's place.

lol wut


You do realize that you need more than one player to win in the proleagues, right? Khan is not a deep team.
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baubo
Profile Joined September 2008
China3370 Posts
March 18 2009 11:26 GMT
#45
On March 18 2009 19:35 renegade_zerg wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 18 2009 18:01 GTR wrote:
On March 18 2009 17:53 anotak wrote:
isn't stork a free agent? meaning samsung would have no say?


if ktf do approach him, samsung still has them first rights or whatever


if stork is indeed a free agent, samsung khan doesnt have any rights on behalf of stork. Any team can bid to obtain him, but ultimately Stork decides where he wants to go. Samsung Khan, on the otherhand, can match or beat offers from other teams to try and keep him


Isn't that basically what GTR meant? It's been a while since that topic on free agency came up. But I got the impression that it was more like the equivalent of Restricted Free Agency of American sports(where original team can resign provided they pony up enough money), rather than Unrestricted Free Agency(where the player can sign with any team for however much he wants).
Meh
renegade_zerg
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
Korea (South)525 Posts
March 18 2009 11:41 GMT
#46
i reworded my comment. I mean to say " Samsung Khan can match or beat offers to persuade him to stay."

I really have no idea if it's restricted free agency or not. There really hasnt been much news on who's on the free agency list or how they plan to implement the system.
Vivi57
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States6599 Posts
March 18 2009 12:51 GMT
#47
I'd really hate it if this were to happen...

I don't really like the thoughts of forgg going to ktf, I'd really like them to raise their own players.

Oh well, I guess the only reason I was fine with them buying lux was because I like lux, not really sure I'd be happy with them buying any toss. Why can't lucifer just get good >_<
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Too_MuchZerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
Finland2818 Posts
March 18 2009 12:56 GMT
#48
On March 18 2009 21:51 Vivi57 wrote:
I'd really hate it if this were to happen...

I don't really like the thoughts of forgg going to ktf, I'd really like them to raise their own players.

Oh well, I guess the only reason I was fine with them buying lux was because I like lux, not really sure I'd be happy with them buying any toss. Why can't lucifer just get good >_<


Well OGN needs good zergs too for future, while having 2 good zergs doesn't give good training morale to other zergs (to get spot for proleague). But now only having yarnac and some other zergs the competition is better inside team.
Arrian
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States889 Posts
March 18 2009 13:34 GMT
#49
Good move for KTF, rather like SKT picking up Bisu while he was slumping. They can probably get a bargain for him, too, and if this is true I wouldn't be surprised if ForGG is part of the deal. FBH is more of a gimmick than an ace player, and you can't count on Frozean for any sort of consistency. JangBi and TT can hold down the Protoss lineup while youngsters are developed, and Khan's Zerg lineup has always needed development, though great is showing promise.
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littlechava
Profile Blog Joined March 2004
United States7221 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-03-18 13:52:16
March 18 2009 13:51 GMT
#50
On March 18 2009 22:34 Arrian wrote:
Good move for KTF, rather like SKT picking up Bisu while he was slumping. They can probably get a bargain for him, too, and if this is true I wouldn't be surprised if ForGG is part of the deal. FBH is more of a gimmick than an ace player, and you can't count on Frozean for any sort of consistency. JangBi and TT can hold down the Protoss lineup while youngsters are developed, and Khan's Zerg lineup has always needed development, though great is showing promise.

Without Stork I think Khan would be pretty screwed for the coming PL rounds/individual leagues. JangBi/Stork are their only consistently good players there (though Stork sucks at PL at times).
firebathero has been slumping pretty badly, FrOzean has always been mediocre, great is *OK* but he'd have a lot more pressure, and there's not many other zergs to share it (oDin? Chavi?). As for other Protoss players... TT? I don't think he's going to be helping out that much. yoOn got a three-kill vs eStro but other than that hasn't played a thing.

Even slumping Stork/JangBi are still the two stars of Khan, if they gave either one of them up their second tier players would be under a lot of pressure and I doubt the team would have a good showing at all.

If Stork does go to KTF though I think it may be the better decision for him, possibly having better practice partners in fOrGG/Luxury/Flash, and of course a bigger paycheck
Keep in mind that whoever wrote that article was just speculating though, at the end of the article:
KTF is officially in the process of signing a new Protoss player, although no name is currently known, it won’t be too big of a surprise if we see the MagicNs fly south for the winter to pick up “The BirdToss”.

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iloahz
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
United States964 Posts
March 18 2009 14:11 GMT
#51
SKT needs to get JD!
Straylight
Profile Joined March 2008
Canada706 Posts
March 18 2009 15:11 GMT
#52
On March 18 2009 17:04 motbob wrote:
Blah. I don't like this policy on TL of, "Let's just copy whatever we want." We copy Fomos pictures, translate their stories and interviews, host OGN and MBC VODs, and even copy and paste English articles from for-profit websites. I would imagine that most of that stuff is without any kind of permission.


Well it's good to include at least a bit of info with the link provided, or else TL will become a bunch of one line posts with a title and a link inside and zero effort. That issue already happens quite a bit.

But anyways, I don't know how you decided it Stork was going to KTF based on that link. Seems like a lot of speculation on your part and not the article.
It felt like gravity.
FragKrag
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States11567 Posts
March 18 2009 15:23 GMT
#53
Well I can see stork being angry at Khan neglecting him in favor of Jangbi. If this is true, I can be a fan of KTF again, now that they have a decent Protoss!
*TL CJ Entusman #40* "like scissors does anything to paper except MAKE IT MORE NUMEROUS" -paper
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