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motbob
United States12546 Posts
http://www.scforall.com/news/news_view.asp?mNum=n02&articleNum=867&PageNo=1 EDIT: Excerpt On March 13th, the KTF MagicNs were able to acquire the 2008 Arena MSL champion, Park Ji Soo aka ForGG. This leaves the team with one more spot to fill for the 4th round of the Shinhan Bank Pro League 08-09 season, which just happens to be a Protoss position.   | ||
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EvoChamber
France2505 Posts
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Last Romantic
United States20661 Posts
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motbob
United States12546 Posts
On March 18 2009 16:59 Last Romantic wrote: More content in OP please. One sentence and a link is shady ;p. It's a blog. If I had more content I'd make a post in BW. Also, scforall is run by our good friend Artosis. | ||
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Jayme
United States5866 Posts
If Stork goes to KTF then well.. KTF becomes just about unstoppable.... Like... that trade would be so insanely expensive. Stork has slipped before and then come back to win an OSL, he's a fairly invaluable player. | ||
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Scaramanga
Australia8090 Posts
Edit: ohk, sorry | ||
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motbob
United States12546 Posts
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PH
United States6173 Posts
I picked Samsung as my team in the little bottom-right-of-post-box thing because of Stork. Since Stork is a free agent (has that gone into effect yet?), does that mean he would have the option to leave Samsung regardless of their wishes? | ||
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Jayme
United States5866 Posts
On March 18 2009 17:04 motbob wrote: Blah. I don't like this policy on TL of, "Let's just copy whatever we want." We copy Fomos pictures, translate their stories and interviews, host OGN and MBC VODs, and even copy and paste English articles from for-profit websites. I would imagine that most of that stuff is without any kind of permission. You know how laws work don't you? If you aren't making any profit from it then as long as you site your sources you are completely free to use those pictures/stories/interviews. They could of course stop TL if they wanted to and they KNOW that TL exists... it's far too big of a website in the SC scene for them not to know. | ||
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Last Romantic
United States20661 Posts
On March 18 2009 17:06 Jayme wrote: You know how laws work don't you? If you aren't making any profit from it then as long as you site your sources you are completely free to use those pictures/stories/interviews. They could of course stop TL if they wanted to and they KNOW that TL exists... it's far too big of a website in the SC scene for them not to know. We don't copy/paste English articles. Translation and picture usage is always cited in Teamliquid sanction posts. | ||
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TaP.Nuada
United States428 Posts
On March 18 2009 17:04 motbob wrote: Blah. I don't like this policy on TL of, "Let's just copy whatever we want." We copy Fomos pictures, translate their stories and interviews, host OGN and MBC VODs, and even copy and paste English articles from for-profit websites. I would imagine that most of that stuff is without any kind of permission. Welcome to the inter net. I dont' think stork switching to KTF would be that big of a deal... would KTF really be overpowered? | ||
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motbob
United States12546 Posts
On March 18 2009 17:06 Jayme wrote: You know how laws work don't you? If you aren't making any profit from it then as long as you site your sources you are completely free to use those pictures/stories/interviews. They could of course stop TL if they wanted to and they KNOW that TL exists... it's far too big of a website in the SC scene for them not to know. You seem to be saying that it's OK to copy, as long as we give it away for free. That may be true with material under a Creative Commons license, but it's certainly not true most of the time. For example I cannot give away music simply because I am "doing it for free." EDIT: and didn't we get in trouble with Fomos at one point for translating their interviews? | ||
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Mastermind
Canada7096 Posts
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T.O.P.
Hong Kong4685 Posts
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dekuschrub
United States2069 Posts
if this is true... seriously ktf is just like you macro? WE BUY GOGOG | ||
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Rice
United States1332 Posts
that doesnt make any sense | ||
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Mista
Singapore1022 Posts
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motbob
United States12546 Posts
On March 18 2009 17:18 Rice wrote: why would samsung sell one of their aces? that doesnt make any sense If the price is right, anything is possible. Maybe they'll trade ForGG :D Samsung needs a good Terran, after all. FBH's recent stats: Last 10 (old -> recent): L L L L W L L W L L | ||
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Kentor
United States5784 Posts
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GTR
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Vasoline73
United States7801 Posts
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GGQ
Canada2653 Posts
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dekuschrub
United States2069 Posts
not that they werent already from the old days | ||
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iLoveKT
Philippines3615 Posts
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TheFoReveRwaR
United States10657 Posts
On March 18 2009 17:20 Mista wrote: It's ok Samsung KHAN still has JangBi who i think will overtake Bisu in the near future as no1 toss. What makes you think that? Bisu destoryed him easily 3-1 last time they played. Which was very recently. | ||
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brjdrb
United States577 Posts
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Ota Solgryn
Denmark2011 Posts
On March 18 2009 17:13 dekuschrub wrote: hahah KTF= New York Yankees if this is true... seriously ktf is just like you macro? WE BUY GOGOG | ||
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liger13
United States1060 Posts
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Julmust
Sweden4867 Posts
On March 18 2009 17:04 motbob wrote: Blah. I don't like this policy on TL of, "Let's just copy whatever we want." We copy Fomos pictures, translate their stories and interviews, host OGN and MBC VODs, and even copy and paste English articles from for-profit websites. I would imagine that most of that stuff is without any kind of permission. Yes! I fully agree! Lets not translate korean articles anymore! Just learn korean you lazy bastards, I mean how hard can it really be? And lets all move to korea so we can take out own pictures of progamers to use in a thread reporting the score of WL/MSL/OSL! There we can also get full access to the live TV. Also lets never link to a pro-profit site again so it can get its revenue![/sarcasm] | ||
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anotak
United States1537 Posts
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GTR
51469 Posts
On March 18 2009 17:53 anotak wrote: isn't stork a free agent? meaning samsung would have no say? if ktf do approach him, samsung still has them first rights or whatever | ||
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Zoler
Sweden6339 Posts
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motbob
United States12546 Posts
On March 18 2009 17:49 SnowFalling wrote: Yes! I fully agree! Lets not translate korean articles anymore! Just learn korean you lazy bastards, I mean how hard can it really be? And lets all move to korea so we can take out own pictures of progamers to use in a thread reporting the score of WL/MSL/OSL! There we can also get full access to the live TV. Also lets never link to a pro-profit site again so it can get its revenue![/sarcasm] Please read my post again so that you might see how badly you missed my point. Your last sentence, especially, doesn't make any sense. Thanks! | ||
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Divinek
Canada4045 Posts
On March 18 2009 17:08 TaP.Nuada wrote: Welcome to the inter net. I dont' think stork switching to KTF would be that big of a deal... would KTF really be overpowered? Lets see... Flash , forgg, luxury, and add stork to that? You have an ace from every race then. | ||
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baubo
China3370 Posts
But I can't think that they'd be so underfunded as to give away by far their most marketable player? I mean, Samsung is the largest company in Korea. And it's not like Khan has some up and coming protoss who can quickly take Stork's place. | ||
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jodogohoo
Canada2533 Posts
On March 18 2009 18:23 baubo wrote: And it's not like Khan has some up and coming protoss who can quickly take Stork's place. lol wut | ||
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Vasoline73
United States7801 Posts
Uh...? If you're talking about Jangbi... I wouldn't really call him up and coming. | ||
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Racenilatr
United States2756 Posts
He is already pretty decent | ||
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Artosis
United States2140 Posts
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renegade_zerg
Korea (South)525 Posts
On March 18 2009 18:01 GTR wrote: if ktf do approach him, samsung still has them first rights or whatever if stork is indeed a free agent, samsung khan doesnt have any rights on behalf of stork. Any team can bid to obtain him, but ultimately Stork decides where he wants to go. Samsung Khan, on the otherhand, can match or beat offers from other teams to try to persuade him to stay. | ||
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Zoler
Sweden6339 Posts
On March 18 2009 19:35 renegade_zerg wrote: if stork is indeed a free agent, samsung khan doesnt have any rights on behalf of stork. Any team can bid to obtain him, but ultimately Stork decides where he wants to go. Samsung Khan, on the otherhand, can match or beat offers from other teams to try and keep him What if he has friends in KTF that he would like to join or that he thinks that he would have better practice there? | ||
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FirstBorn
Romania3955 Posts
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renegade_zerg
Korea (South)525 Posts
On March 18 2009 19:55 Zoler wrote: What if he has friends in KTF that he would like to join or that he thinks that he would have better practice there? Then Samsung Khan can't stop him from leaving. Which was the point of my earlier post directed at GTR's comment. | ||
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baubo
China3370 Posts
You do realize that you need more than one player to win in the proleagues, right? Khan is not a deep team. | ||
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baubo
China3370 Posts
On March 18 2009 19:35 renegade_zerg wrote: if stork is indeed a free agent, samsung khan doesnt have any rights on behalf of stork. Any team can bid to obtain him, but ultimately Stork decides where he wants to go. Samsung Khan, on the otherhand, can match or beat offers from other teams to try and keep him Isn't that basically what GTR meant? It's been a while since that topic on free agency came up. But I got the impression that it was more like the equivalent of Restricted Free Agency of American sports(where original team can resign provided they pony up enough money), rather than Unrestricted Free Agency(where the player can sign with any team for however much he wants). | ||
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renegade_zerg
Korea (South)525 Posts
I really have no idea if it's restricted free agency or not. There really hasnt been much news on who's on the free agency list or how they plan to implement the system. | ||
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Vivi57
United States6599 Posts
I don't really like the thoughts of forgg going to ktf, I'd really like them to raise their own players. Oh well, I guess the only reason I was fine with them buying lux was because I like lux, not really sure I'd be happy with them buying any toss. Why can't lucifer just get good >_< | ||
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Too_MuchZerg
Finland2818 Posts
On March 18 2009 21:51 Vivi57 wrote: I'd really hate it if this were to happen... I don't really like the thoughts of forgg going to ktf, I'd really like them to raise their own players. Oh well, I guess the only reason I was fine with them buying lux was because I like lux, not really sure I'd be happy with them buying any toss. Why can't lucifer just get good >_< Well OGN needs good zergs too for future, while having 2 good zergs doesn't give good training morale to other zergs (to get spot for proleague). But now only having yarnac and some other zergs the competition is better inside team. | ||
Arrian
United States889 Posts
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littlechava
United States7218 Posts
On March 18 2009 22:34 Arrian wrote: Good move for KTF, rather like SKT picking up Bisu while he was slumping. They can probably get a bargain for him, too, and if this is true I wouldn't be surprised if ForGG is part of the deal. FBH is more of a gimmick than an ace player, and you can't count on Frozean for any sort of consistency. JangBi and TT can hold down the Protoss lineup while youngsters are developed, and Khan's Zerg lineup has always needed development, though great is showing promise. Without Stork I think Khan would be pretty screwed for the coming PL rounds/individual leagues. JangBi/Stork are their only consistently good players there (though Stork sucks at PL at times). firebathero has been slumping pretty badly, FrOzean has always been mediocre, great is *OK* but he'd have a lot more pressure, and there's not many other zergs to share it (oDin? Chavi?). As for other Protoss players... TT? I don't think he's going to be helping out that much. yoOn got a three-kill vs eStro but other than that hasn't played a thing. Even slumping Stork/JangBi are still the two stars of Khan, if they gave either one of them up their second tier players would be under a lot of pressure and I doubt the team would have a good showing at all. If Stork does go to KTF though I think it may be the better decision for him, possibly having better practice partners in fOrGG/Luxury/Flash, and of course a bigger paycheck Keep in mind that whoever wrote that article was just speculating though, at the end of the article: KTF is officially in the process of signing a new Protoss player, although no name is currently known, it won’t be too big of a surprise if we see the MagicNs fly south for the winter to pick up “The BirdToss”. | ||
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iloahz
United States964 Posts
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Straylight
Canada706 Posts
On March 18 2009 17:04 motbob wrote: Blah. I don't like this policy on TL of, "Let's just copy whatever we want." We copy Fomos pictures, translate their stories and interviews, host OGN and MBC VODs, and even copy and paste English articles from for-profit websites. I would imagine that most of that stuff is without any kind of permission. Well it's good to include at least a bit of info with the link provided, or else TL will become a bunch of one line posts with a title and a link inside and zero effort. That issue already happens quite a bit. But anyways, I don't know how you decided it Stork was going to KTF based on that link. Seems like a lot of speculation on your part and not the article. | ||
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FragKrag
United States11552 Posts
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