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On March 18 2009 15:10 eX-Corgh wrote:O_O your apm is so low... How can you even win with that in 2009? I guess 180-200 is still enough in C ranks. Please tell my where did you find 160-200 APM terrans?  I thought they all have 250+ if they are as good as you make them sound.
You base too much on APM.
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On March 18 2009 15:10 eX-Corgh wrote:O_O your apm is so low... How can you even win with that in 2009? I guess 180-200 is still enough in C ranks. Please tell my where did you find 160-200 APM terrans? I thought they all have 250+ if they are as good as you make them sound.
He is protoss what do you expect
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Oh good, another Protoss joke.
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On March 18 2009 15:10 eX-Corgh wrote:O_O your apm is so low... How can you even win with that in 2009? I guess 180-200 is still enough in C ranks. Please tell my where did you find 160-200 APM terrans? I thought they all have 250+ if they are as good as you make them sound.
Dude...there is no correlation between skill and APM to that far of an extent...
Pro players in all races play with APMs ranging from 200-500...even terrans like Flash and Mind don't regularly break 300...
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Yeah Savior has 250 apm. Stork has 260 apm. Low apm players can be good too. Decision making is more important than handspeed. A D player could have 400 apm and be stuck at D forever. A player will good decision making skills could get to B even with a apm ceiling of 150
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Russian Federation386 Posts
Ah great, a remark about his APM and this turned off-topic  Sorry.
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Can someone rehost these on repdepot? Why would you use sendspace... ever?
APM note: a cheesy protoss player can go as high as B, even with 110 apm. Case in point - Kwak.
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On March 18 2009 14:39 JoeSaddles wrote:
editing is my best friend lately... I have a big mouth I guess.... I seem to get into flame fests whenever posting, so I basically just cut half the post out >_<
It's as much about the context of your posting as it is the content.
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On March 18 2009 16:54 Resonance wrote:Show nested quote +On March 18 2009 15:10 eX-Corgh wrote:O_O your apm is so low... How can you even win with that in 2009? I guess 180-200 is still enough in C ranks. Please tell my where did you find 160-200 APM terrans? I thought they all have 250+ if they are as good as you make them sound. He is protoss what do you expect
This
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my APM is around 180-225... it's effective APM not mindless spamming.
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On March 18 2009 14:30 JoeSaddles wrote:Show nested quote +On March 18 2009 14:22 MoRe_mInErAls wrote:
Whoo Saddles is back!
Edit: Wait hang on, might start a shitstorm here but how do you know they're C+/B- level? You've been playing mostly C and C- opponents this season. Did they tell you? Did you evaluate their skill to your own, assuming that you're a solid B- yourself? I based it on last seasons ranks and win ratio from this season, everyone I posted so far was B- or higher LAST season, with good win ratio this season. I just didnt wanna do them no justice and call them C- players when theyre really higher than that ,it's just early in season still, so I checked their ranks from last season.
Haha yeah you didn't want to do them no justice hahahahhaha, do you really expect anyone to buy that? You are so ridiculously transparent, everyone knows you just want to hype yourself up shamelessly so don't make up bullshit like that, it's insulting to the intelligence of everyone reading this.
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Tbh i watched the replays and i'm not that impressed. For sure you improved quite a lot ( compared to your first replays ) but your level is still not even close to really good foreigners.
You look like a C+ player max.
Most of your reps are really cheesy / allin:
- 4 Gates + shuttle bulldog attack vs T
- Mutaling win after a cheese attempt by P ( he wasted like 3 pylons and 2 cannons for 0 damage to your economy ).
- Win vs a failed burrow-ling trick on destination ( PvZ ).
Then two more standart games vs Sadist and the smi guy. But to be honest they made HUGE and stupid mistakes, they should have won those games.
So yea you look decent ( C+ late season ) but definitly not outstanding.
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On March 18 2009 15:25 CrownRoyal wrote:
pretty sure my 130-150 apm is enough to get b- granted i cared enough
not even as protoss gayleb
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On March 19 2009 02:23 Frits wrote:Show nested quote +On March 18 2009 14:30 JoeSaddles wrote:On March 18 2009 14:22 MoRe_mInErAls wrote:
Whoo Saddles is back!
Edit: Wait hang on, might start a shitstorm here but how do you know they're C+/B- level? You've been playing mostly C and C- opponents this season. Did they tell you? Did you evaluate their skill to your own, assuming that you're a solid B- yourself? I based it on last seasons ranks and win ratio from this season, everyone I posted so far was B- or higher LAST season, with good win ratio this season. I just didnt wanna do them no justice and call them C- players when theyre really higher than that ,it's just early in season still, so I checked their ranks from last season. Haha yeah you didn't want to do them no justice hahahahhaha, do you really expect anyone to buy that? You are so ridiculously transparent, everyone knows you just want to hype yourself up shamelessly so don't make up bullshit like that, it's insulting to the intelligence of everyone reading this.
are you kidding ? why would I call someone a C- player when they hit B- or B last season??? that's called doing them NO justice =p
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On March 19 2009 03:22 Boblion wrote:
Tbh i watched the replays and i'm not that impressed. For sure you improved quite a lot ( compared to your first replays ) but your level is still not even close to really good foreigners.
You look like a C+ player max.
Most of your reps are really cheesy / allin:
- 4 Gates + shuttle bulldog attack vs T
- Mutaling win after a cheese attempt by P ( he wasted like 3 pylons and 2 cannons for 0 damage to your economy ).
- Win vs a failed burrow-ling trick on destination ( PvZ ).
Then two more standart games vs Sadist and the smi guy. But to be honest they made HUGE and stupid mistakes, they should have won those games.
So yea you look decent ( C+ late season ) but definitly not outstanding.
I know I'm still newb but haven't you noticed that I've improved a lot since the first replays you've seen? I have the potential to be a top AMERICAN, not foreigner overall since there are so many diff countries, but american for sure.
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Saddles you are a god amoung men. Don't let idra tell you differently. Hes just jealous of your godly protoss power.
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lol i know im still a newb overall but at least i can be top 15 american if practiced enough, my replays have improve a LOT and I know I have the potential, all the haters can get to C+ rank this early in season, then start talking crap =)
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On March 19 2009 03:22 Boblion wrote:
Tbh i watched the replays and i'm not that impressed. For sure you improved quite a lot ( compared to your first replays ) but your level is still not even close to really good foreigners.
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remember my last time playing competitive was in 2004... I then started up again in december of 2008, Im learning the new maps and practicing a lot and I hope one day to be a top american (not foreigner)
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