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FConnectionUK *
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
United States316 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-03-08 03:49:30
March 07 2009 05:11 GMT
#1
but I did a translation.
Fcuk 1 - 0 Laziness

"Headaches"
Stork: Before... there were many older players (than myself) like JJu... But now I am the eldest. And I am the only person who ever won anything in the team. Being that player, I should offer my young teammates worthy advise or encouragement... To me, that is very difficult.

Caster: That's very true. Also, you, yourself, cannot ask anyone else for an advise since you are that person they all look up to. That must be very frustrating as well.
And what other issues/headaches did you have after becoming a champion?

Stork: As you know, (Team) Proleague has become a lot bigger and that much more significant.
Before when I thirst to win a title, both OGN and MBC had their own Proleagues. Remember Nal_rA?
I thought when you win a title like he did, your life will be set for good, everyone will respect you and all.
But when I had the chance to win like that, I always got second place.
Only after the Proleague has become huge, I won a title. But now, even if you win a title, you do not get the title as "the best".
There are just too many players who are just dominating in the Proleague, and you only get the same respect as them.
That was a huge let down for me, after winning a title with soo much effort put into it. Just too many competition... just one title.

Not only that... I could not have won the title at any worse time than this. Bisu goes to the Final as well... and against my own teammate, Jangbi.
Bisu wins, my teammate loses, and Bisu being one of the greatest protoss gets all the spotlight.


"About Bisu"
Stork: When JJu was here, I used to tell him that I needed no practice at all to win games. All I needed was the enthusiasm/force to beat my opponents.
Now, everyone have gone crazy. Crazy... Everyone practice insane amount of time. Enthusiasm? Forget that. Practice, practice, practice. That's all there is to it.

I used to practice for Proleague during practice hours, and Individual league only during my own person free time. Now that is not enough. Not even close...
I can tell that my physical(APM) is lacking compared to newly-become progamers. I sorely felt it when I went to a tournament and looked at Bisu's screen.

Jangbi(hearing everything since now): Stork is a BIG time Bisu's fan. (Everyone agrees, even the 2 casters next to him) He did not used to be one.
But ever since... what was that tournament? The one in china?

Caster: IEF?

Jangbi: Yea! That's the one. The one he got a silver. When he came back, he came back as a different person. He told me "Omg! I saw Bisu's hands and it was RIDICULOUS!!~~"

Caster2 (Nal_rA): Why do you always feel like a victim when it comes to Bisu?

Stork: Best physical, best physical... I didn't care before. I might have slow hands, but I'm still capable of doing everything that are necessary. So what's such a big deal?
Well, remember I said that I lack physical? Bisu made me feel that way.
In the finals against Bisu, I kept missing the tempo just because Bisu was doing everything faster than me. Not because I didn't know what was suppose to be done, but just because my hands could not keep up with his faster hands.
Ever since then, I admit Bisu as a great player, and now I've become a total Bisu fan...

Jangbi: lol... he always say "Our bisu, our bisu" (Only fans would add that personal title)

Caster: Jangbi, don't you have one of the fastest hands?

Jangbi: I don't know. I never thought about it that way.

Caster: It looks really fast, because your multi-task is so great. So did you ever get shocked, like Stork did, by looking at another player play?

Jangbi: Nope, I didn't even care to be honest.

Caster: That means you're fast.

Stork: He's just so great, he doesn't give a shit about the rest. hehe (Stork did not use any offensive word, but he was just throwing a friendly jest)

Jangbi: I do not look at other player's screen... because at the end, you play the game with your own hands, not theirs. I don't think it would matter much...

Stork: Did you know Jangbi has a facial expression when he starts moving his hands very fast? When I see him during the practice.
He gets crazy fast when he uses storms, I can't even follow his movements...

Caster2 (Nal_rA): Oh I know! He gathers his mouth. And his mouth beings to tremble!

Stork: Yea! That's what happen!



[image loading]


And here I end with the new APM bonjwa(since this was majorly about progamer's physical)... his apm is only matched by MAYBE Jaedong or Bisu... By.Hero
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Dr.Dragoon
Profile Joined November 2007
United States1241 Posts
March 07 2009 05:17 GMT
#2
Great translation, very entertaining read
~o~ I have returned
ZoW
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States3983 Posts
March 07 2009 05:34 GMT
#3
[image loading]


He doesn't beat yarnc's 3992 =P
the courage to be a lazy bum
p4NDemik
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United States13896 Posts
March 07 2009 05:38 GMT
#4
haha awesome - Stork is a Bisu fanboy! The sickness is even spreading among fellow progamers?!?! What are we going to do???
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Carnivorous Sheep
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Baa?21245 Posts
March 07 2009 06:09 GMT
#5
On March 07 2009 14:34 ZoW wrote:
[image loading]


He doesn't beat yarnc's 3992 =P


The hell happened there? =O
TranslatorBaa!
Avidkeystamper
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States8556 Posts
March 07 2009 06:12 GMT
#6
Geez, with such a high APM you'd think he'd spend all his resources, though he always macros up a big army. I'm so confused by by.hero.
Jaedong
SayaSP
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Laos5494 Posts
March 07 2009 06:19 GMT
#7
That's a sick typo for 392 lol
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PanoRaMa
Profile Blog Joined June 2003
United States5070 Posts
March 07 2009 06:43 GMT
#8
Very interesting translation, thanks . Why didn't you post this in the BW forum? Many would appreciate it.

And that average 500 apm by by.hero is just SICK. (granted it was only a 9 minute game)
Kinky
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States4126 Posts
March 07 2009 06:44 GMT
#9
Wow, 3992 o_o Hope that's not real.
thedeadhaji *
Profile Blog Joined January 2006
39489 Posts
March 07 2009 07:03 GMT
#10
+ Show Spoiler +
man By.hero played damn well last night too X_X

Feeling even more excited about him than when I first started to see Effort in the leagues.
Person514cs
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
1004 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-03-07 07:16:41
March 07 2009 07:15 GMT
#11
Stork is a huge Bisu fun? That's too funny. This should move to the brood war section. It's great. Thanks for the work.
Peace and love, for ever.
IntoTheWow
Profile Blog Joined May 2004
is awesome32278 Posts
March 07 2009 07:18 GMT
#12
hold CTRL + number, don't let go, apm skyrockets.
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Matoo-
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
Canada1397 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-03-07 09:07:18
March 07 2009 09:06 GMT
#13
How can Stork sound so defeated when he's in both SLs?
The part about the importance of SLs/PL today was really interesting too.
Thank you for the translation.
Never...
Profile Joined February 2009
15 Posts
March 07 2009 10:16 GMT
#14
Thanks for this interview!
KOFgokuon
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States14911 Posts
March 07 2009 10:53 GMT
#15
thanks for this!
7mk
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Germany10157 Posts
March 07 2009 12:24 GMT
#16
thanks a lot for this
is this a translation from a video?
If yes id love to see the video
beep boop
MasterReY
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
Germany2708 Posts
March 07 2009 12:42 GMT
#17
thanks for the translation !!!
very nice interview
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Ares[Effort] *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
DEMACIA6550 Posts
March 07 2009 12:47 GMT
#18
On March 07 2009 16:03 thedeadhaji wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
man By.hero played damn well last night too X_X

Feeling even more excited about him than when I first started to see Effort in the leagues.


I really hope for EffOrt to come back and start dominating again!! btw nice translating.
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BroOd
Profile Blog Joined April 2003
Austin10833 Posts
March 07 2009 13:01 GMT
#19
thanks fcuk I love this shit. you rock.

our bisu indeed
ModeratorSIRL and JLIG.
miseiler
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
United States1389 Posts
March 07 2009 14:08 GMT
#20
On March 07 2009 14:11 FConnectionUK wrote:
Jangbi: Yea! That's the one. The one he got a silver.


I'm sorry but that doesn't narrow it down.
"Jinro soo manly wearing only a T-Shirt while the Koreans freeze in their jackets" -- Double_O
"He's from Sweden, man. We have to fight polar bears on our way to school." -- Yusername
briskjie
Profile Joined February 2008
China2 Posts
March 07 2009 14:51 GMT
#21
On March 07 2009 21:24 7mk wrote:
thanks a lot for this
is this a translation from a video?
If yes id love to see the video



There are video, pls try the links:
http://www.wfbrood.com/movie/ot/movie_36825.html
and
http://www.wfbrood.com/movie/ot/movie_36826.html
Naib
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
Hungary4904 Posts
March 07 2009 15:00 GMT
#22
Hm, wow. Fantasy is "slow" (compared to the others at least, lol). I never woulda thought...maybe that's why he's shaky sometimes, not fast enough?
Complete the cycle!
3 Lions
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States3705 Posts
March 07 2009 15:01 GMT
#23
iirc Oov used to be really slow too.
Mista
Profile Joined January 2009
Singapore1022 Posts
March 07 2009 15:15 GMT
#24
Damn Bisu must have brought protoss playing to a whole new level.
Time for some Revolution !
Emlary
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
China3334 Posts
March 07 2009 15:29 GMT
#25
Thanks for the translation!

DAMN I hate myself so much how on earth can I miss IEF final last year in China? According to Jangbi, that must be a memorable tournament where Stork became a Bisu fan lol
No more SKT1, it's SKP2.
Archaic
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States4024 Posts
March 07 2009 15:52 GMT
#26
Wow, I never noticed how much Stork envied Bisu o-o... Anyways, what exactly do these numbers mean? Obviously factors of APM, but anyone mind listing the translations?
FConnectionUK *
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
United States316 Posts
March 07 2009 16:11 GMT
#27
Starting from the top of the chart

Unit Count
Unit Kill Count
Units Lost
Mineral Gathered
Gas Gathered
APM average
APM peak
APM bottom
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Sanity.
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States704 Posts
March 07 2009 20:46 GMT
#28
On March 07 2009 14:34 ZoW wrote:
[image loading]


He doesn't beat yarnc's 3992 =P
rofl
Psyqo
Profile Joined November 2007
United States401 Posts
March 07 2009 22:53 GMT
#29
So if I read that right by.hero was clocked at 634 apm during a certain minute of that game? That's ridiculous.
StarBrift
Profile Joined January 2008
Sweden1761 Posts
March 08 2009 03:30 GMT
#30
Lol so yarnc is busted at trying to highten his apm by holding control? Would be funneh anyway
iPF[Div]
Profile Joined February 2008
Spain572 Posts
March 08 2009 07:41 GMT
#31
nah thats def a typo, holding down hotkey wont get you up to 4k unless you're in the laggiest game ever and i'm pretty sure they dont play on bnet.
Since ma jae yoon and jin young soo stabbed me in the fucking back, i've got no one to rep here.
Atlan
Profile Joined September 2007
Taiwan36 Posts
March 08 2009 11:48 GMT
#32
haha funny to think Stork is a Bisu fan ;>

Thx for translation
"It's called hold position bro!"
7mk
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Germany10157 Posts
March 08 2009 12:32 GMT
#33
On March 07 2009 23:08 miseiler wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 07 2009 14:11 FConnectionUK wrote:
Jangbi: Yea! That's the one. The one he got a silver.


I'm sorry but that doesn't narrow it down.


LOL xD


thanks for the link briskjie
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Geo.Rion
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
7377 Posts
March 08 2009 18:32 GMT
#34
500+ average APM?? WHAT THE HELL!!!!
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Malongo
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Chile3472 Posts
March 08 2009 18:39 GMT
#35
thanks for the translation fcuk, by.heros apm is incredible.
Help me! im still improving my English. An eye for an eye makes the whole world blind. M. G.
anTi_
Profile Joined October 2008
United States499 Posts
March 08 2009 18:46 GMT
#36
I don't really care about the 500apm average, that was a short game, but he had 400APM average in that 23 minute game.

I believe by.hero will be the next big zerg behind jaedong. The only issue I see with by.hero's game is his ZvZ might not be up to standards. He is a macro zerg, I think this weak MU will definitely be his downfall. We don't have any recent games to really judge his zvz, I'll assume it will improve with july and calm on his team.

On another tangent, being on stx is by far the best team to be on if you're an up and coming zerg. You have (T)Hwasin who is a tvz expert. (P)Kal who is a PvZ expert, and a golden mouse winning zerg (Z)July to play against. It doesn't really come as a surprise that players like (Z)Calm and (Z)by.hero have risen from this team.
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Klive5ive
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United Kingdom6056 Posts
March 08 2009 18:52 GMT
#37
Stork is so modest and awesome.
He's the last of the true strategic masters.
Don't hate the player - Hate the game
ZergZoul
Profile Joined April 2007
Mexico408 Posts
March 08 2009 19:54 GMT
#38
(Z)by.hero's peak amp is 634... thats 10.56 clicks/hits per second...
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Centric
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States1989 Posts
March 08 2009 22:54 GMT
#39
Hahaha...Stork's a Bisu fanboy too.
Super serious.
BisuBoi
Profile Joined February 2009
United States350 Posts
March 09 2009 00:06 GMT
#40
Thanks for the translation! Always excited to read more about the SUPREME COMMANDER. Just a question though, couldn't this be put in the Broodwar section? I'm sure it'd get a lot more attention there and since it's a player interview, it'd fit right in.
talismania
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States2364 Posts
March 09 2009 02:28 GMT
#41
didn't julyzerg once have a peak apm of like 834 or something? I think it was a really short zvt where he overwhelmed someone with mutas, but I can't remember the opponent.
BanZu
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States3329 Posts
March 09 2009 02:41 GMT
#42
...

That APM is some crazy SHIT!
Sun Tzu once said, "Defiler becomes useless at the presences of a vessel."
fearus
Profile Blog Joined December 2003
China2164 Posts
March 09 2009 11:01 GMT
#43
LOL stork

welcome to the club.
bisu fanboy
Geo.Rion
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
7377 Posts
March 09 2009 12:23 GMT
#44
On March 09 2009 11:28 talismania wrote:
didn't julyzerg once have a peak apm of like 834 or something? I think it was a really short zvt where he overwhelmed someone with mutas, but I can't remember the opponent.



that was against Hwasin. The strange thing is that Hwasin average APM was higher than July's in that game, sg around 440 if i remember correctly, but yeha, i guess July holds the apm peak record, that's the highest i ever heard, i could be wrong....
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]343[
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States10328 Posts
March 09 2009 14:13 GMT
#45
wait... so who are by.hero's opponents in these games? #3 is leta and #5 is fantasy?
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wtflah
Profile Joined October 2008
United States92 Posts
March 09 2009 14:48 GMT
#46
On March 09 2009 23:13 ]343[ wrote:
wait... so who are by.hero's opponents in these games? #3 is leta and #5 is fantasy?

leta, tester, fantasy.
EsX_Raptor
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States2802 Posts
March 09 2009 14:59 GMT
#47
On March 07 2009 14:34 ZoW wrote:
[image loading]


He doesn't beat yarnc's 3992 =P

The difference between Koreans and Foreigners......... wait
fusionsdf
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
Canada15390 Posts
March 09 2009 16:04 GMT
#48
On March 09 2009 03:46 anTi_ wrote:
I don't really care about the 500apm average, that was a short game, but he had 400APM average in that 23 minute game.

I believe by.hero will be the next big zerg behind jaedong. The only issue I see with by.hero's game is his ZvZ might not be up to standards. He is a macro zerg, I think this weak MU will definitely be his downfall. We don't have any recent games to really judge his zvz, I'll assume it will improve with july and calm on his team.

On another tangent, being on stx is by far the best team to be on if you're an up and coming zerg. You have (T)Hwasin who is a tvz expert. (P)Kal who is a PvZ expert, and a golden mouse winning zerg (Z)July to play against. It doesn't really come as a surprise that players like (Z)Calm and (Z)by.hero have risen from this team.


who you have ohn your team really doesnt help all that much. See FBH TvP, SKT zergs.

also CJ would beat STX in that category anyways
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stevethemacguy
Profile Joined September 2008
United States137 Posts
March 09 2009 22:31 GMT
#49
Stork needs to stop worrying about other pro-gamers and focus on his own game, which is perfectly capable of beating players like Bisu. The reason stork gets so many silvers is because he has a "loser mentality." Stork has always seemed like a nice guy who has a lot of respect for fellow gamers so maybe I'm wrong, but you can learn little tidbits about players through these interviews. And the more I hear Stork talk, the more it seems like he believes he's going to lose before he even enters the booth and that's just not good. On the other hand, in-game stork has looked very aggressive and confident lately. He needs to go into the booth like Jaedong, telling himself: "I'm gonna crush this guy."
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piskooooo
Profile Joined November 2008
United States351 Posts
March 10 2009 06:33 GMT
#50
SSSTTTOOOOORRRKKKK <3
<3 MKP
nataziel
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Australia1455 Posts
March 10 2009 08:39 GMT
#51
Wow, poor stork, I feel sorry for the guy.
u gotta sk8
Frits
Profile Joined March 2003
11782 Posts
March 10 2009 16:13 GMT
#52
Man I'd love to see some by.hero fpvods.
BisuBoi
Profile Joined February 2009
United States350 Posts
March 10 2009 22:22 GMT
#53
On March 10 2009 07:31 stevethemacguy wrote:
Stork needs to stop worrying about other pro-gamers and focus on his own game, which is perfectly capable of beating players like Bisu. The reason stork gets so many silvers is because he has a "loser mentality." Stork has always seemed like a nice guy who has a lot of respect for fellow gamers so maybe I'm wrong, but you can learn little tidbits about players through these interviews. And the more I hear Stork talk, the more it seems like he believes he's going to lose before he even enters the booth and that's just not good. On the other hand, in-game stork has looked very aggressive and confident lately. He needs to go into the booth like Jaedong, telling himself: "I'm gonna crush this guy."


I don't think there's any inherent reason for why Stork gets silvers other than that's just how things have gone. Yes, he's obviously succumbed to pressure at times, but any player does. Using JD as an example, I've seen MANY times where he starts to choke after things go south. And his "crush" mentality didn't do much for him in the MSL vs ForGG. Time has proven that Stork didn't lose to flukes. Can you name anyone he lost a finals to that didn't end up an S-class player? Losing to the likes of Flash, Bisu, and JD are not crazy choke-fest/flukes. They just seemed like flukes at the time because Stork was hot and established and the other guy was relatively unknown. Do ppl still think Bisu beating Savior was a fluke?
proA.June91
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
Vietnam445 Posts
March 11 2009 06:59 GMT
#54
nice translation and thank for your great efforts
gotta translate it into vietnamese very soon :D
thanks again ^^
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WhuazGoodJaggah
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Lesotho777 Posts
March 11 2009 10:12 GMT
#55
On March 09 2009 11:28 talismania wrote:
didn't julyzerg once have a peak apm of like 834 or something? I think it was a really short zvt where he overwhelmed someone with mutas, but I can't remember the opponent.


the "peak" APM depends a lot on the timeframe taken to measure it.
small dicks have great firepower
Turbovolver
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Australia2413 Posts
March 12 2009 01:51 GMT
#56
On March 11 2009 07:22 BisuBoi wrote: And his "crush" mentality didn't do much for him in the MSL vs ForGG.


???
The original Bogus fan.
Ilikestarcraft
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
Korea (South)17743 Posts
March 12 2009 03:55 GMT
#57
I never noticed how fast by.hero was until watching the game vs hwasin where after the apm came up and i expected hwasin to be faster and .....

ils
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MurderU
Profile Joined May 2008
Norway24 Posts
March 12 2009 07:16 GMT
#58
thanks buddy!
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Profile Blog Joined July 2007
Sweden1017 Posts
March 12 2009 10:56 GMT
#59
our bisu
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anch
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
United States5457 Posts
March 12 2009 20:20 GMT
#60
3992 still got owned, there is no game sense.
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