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keit
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
1584 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-03-06 22:56:16
March 06 2009 22:54 GMT
#21
Indeed, after listening to bass heavy music for a couple of hours with my DT770's my ears felt numb. :/

I stopped listening with that high bass after that. Felt like you'd been to a concert :f

oh and btw, if you decide on the DT770's make sure you go for the 80 ohms since they are easier to drive and sound better than their highher ohm counterparts (strangely enough since you would think higher ohm = more juice and better sound...)

the higher ohm cans might sound better with an amp though, but i dont think you wanna spend an additional 300 dollars minimum lol.
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rkarhu
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
Finland570 Posts
March 06 2009 23:46 GMT
#22
Oh, thanks for all the info, I'll probably head off to the nearest hifi-store tomorrow and test out some hphones. Oh and btw, what do you mean with driving the cans?
Klapdout
Profile Joined August 2007
United States282 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-03-07 00:11:23
March 07 2009 00:05 GMT
#23
On March 07 2009 08:46 rkarhu wrote:
Oh, thanks for all the info, I'll probably head off to the nearest hifi-store tomorrow and test out some hphones. Oh and btw, what do you mean with driving the cans?



he means using an amplifier

If you do go with the 770's the 80 ohm version will work fine off your soundcard, the 240 ohm probably won't, it will most likely be very quiet and distorted.


That said, even the 80 ohm version(like just about any high quality cans) will benefit a lot from amplification, it can really improve the sound quality and tighten up the bass.

For a budget amp I recommend the Practical Devices XM4, only costs $130 bones but delivers better sound than most amps twice its price.

http://www.practicaldevices.com/purchase_xm4.htm
caelym
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States6429 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-03-07 00:11:19
March 07 2009 00:09 GMT
#24
On March 07 2009 07:54 keit wrote:
Indeed, after listening to bass heavy music for a couple of hours with my DT770's my ears felt numb. :/

I stopped listening with that high bass after that. Felt like you'd been to a concert :f

oh and btw, if you decide on the DT770's make sure you go for the 80 ohms since they are easier to drive and sound better than their highher ohm counterparts (strangely enough since you would think higher ohm = more juice and better sound...)

the higher ohm cans might sound better with an amp though, but i dont think you wanna spend an additional 300 dollars minimum lol.

ohms is the measure of resistance, more ohms = more resistance, so no I wouldn't think that higher ohm = more juice (ohm's law: Current(amps)=Voltage(volts)/Resistance(ohm))

and I also wouldn't count on more power = better sound...
Last Romantic
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
United States20665 Posts
March 07 2009 00:12 GMT
#25
Grado or AKG IMO.
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BroOd
Profile Blog Joined April 2003
Austin10833 Posts
March 07 2009 00:16 GMT
#26
I love my grado sr60's so much. Really changed how I listen to music.
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NeVeR
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
1352 Posts
March 07 2009 00:36 GMT
#27
I just want something comfortable and adjustable to play SC with late at night (not too expensive). Can anyone suggest something for me?
Klapdout
Profile Joined August 2007
United States282 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-03-07 01:14:42
March 07 2009 00:53 GMT
#28
On March 07 2009 09:36 NeVeR wrote:
I just want something comfortable and adjustable to play SC with late at night (not too expensive). Can anyone suggest something for me?



how cheap?
does it need to be sealed?
you said at night so I'm assuming you don't want noise leaking around the house

For $50 you can pick up the Sennheiser HD-212 which would fit perfectly.
good sound for the price, sealed, comfortable not to many can beet them at this price range.


For cheaper you can go with the Koss SB-40

These are actually a headset, and the mic is pretty crappy and flimsy however they can be found for $30 have a no questions asked lifetime warranty, and sound pretty good. They are also rather comfortable, when I owned these, I had to bend the mic boom in an upside down U shape to keep it from moving around as I moved my head(with the mic in the upright position) other than that, these are fantastic budget cans. Though if you can spare the extra $20 the hd-212's cost I'd go for them.

EDIT: It seems Koss made answered many peoples wishes, and made an SB-40 without the mic
and called it the Koss UR-20
They can be found for $15 bucks online, they come with the same lifetime warranty, and should have the same sound quality and comfort.
If your budget is really tight, these would be the cans to buy.



If you can afford more there are quite a number of options, but I'll need more details to recommend you a pair. Especially a price range =D


NeVeR
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
1352 Posts
March 07 2009 01:12 GMT
#29
Thanks for the response.

Does "sealed" mean it covers the entire ear? I don't think I like that, it feels rather uncomfortable. Is there something that would be good that's not sealed? I'm looking to spend around $50 I guess.
Klapdout
Profile Joined August 2007
United States282 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-03-07 02:04:02
March 07 2009 01:37 GMT
#30
On March 07 2009 10:12 NeVeR wrote:
Thanks for the response.

Does "sealed" mean it covers the entire ear? I don't think I like that, it feels rather uncomfortable. Is there something that would be good that's not sealed? I'm looking to spend around $50 I guess.


no by sealed I mean they have a sealed chamber around the speaker and your ear, keeping outside noises out, and inside noises in. Open headphones 'vent' to the outside as in they have an open or vented area behind the speaker. Open cans tend to sound more accurate and tight, while sealed have a bit of a muddy sound to them. Though good sealed headphones still do sound great.

what your talking about 'around the ear design' is called circum-aural, the 'sit on your ears' design is called supra-aural, sealed headphones can be one or the other.


For $50 the HD-212 would probably be your best bet

You said you don't like headphones which sit around the ears, then these will probably work work well for you as they sit on top of your ears. Even though in pics they look like a typical circum-aural design, they are not quite that big.

though if sealed isnt necessary there are some better sounding options

like the Grado SR-60's which are a fantastic supra-aural design that sounds amazing with rock music
and are probably the greatest value of any cans out there
they will set you back about $60

If you don't need to worry about annoying anyone at night, then don't bother with the sealed headphones. I was just assuming based on you saying they were for night use.


EDIT: oh and if you ever did decide on the Grado's, they are very 'tight' around the head when new, don't be afraid to bend them to the shape of your head, it will improve comfort a lot, and your blood vessels will thank you ;D
NeVeR
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
1352 Posts
March 07 2009 01:49 GMT
#31
Okay, thanks a lot for the help. I'll definitely think about buying them.
myzael
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Poland605 Posts
March 07 2009 23:28 GMT
#32
On March 07 2009 07:44 Klapdout wrote:
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On March 07 2009 07:18 rkarhu wrote:
On March 07 2009 07:02 myzael wrote:
Closed heaphones could be dangerous for your ears. I strongly reccomend open ones. Just slightly above 200$, sennheiser hd 600 or hd 595 are the best.


Is this true? Since I saw It's all gone Pete Tong I've been increasingly concerned of my hearing :D. I'm enticed by those Beyerdynamic DT 770 Pro 80 Ohms, but they seem like total ear drum destroyers.



No, that is absolutely false, sealed cans can actually help prevent hearing loss by blocking outside noise, decreasing total spl

The only type of headphones that have been linked to increased hearing loss per total spl were ear buds, due to delivering the sound waves directly into the ear canal.

But even then, Ive never seen any actual studies conclude this, just a whole lot of talk from 'experts'



The Beyerdynamic DT 770 Pro are a great set of cans, they are CAPABLE of being ear drum destroyers if your crazy on the volume ;D

But at a normal volume you have nothing to worry about.


Open ones are the safer afaik, just because sealed headphones seem to amplify sound waves into your ears, while the open allow them to spread. I suppose the sound quality is the key factor, not the power or high volume. Still, I agree, that at normal volume there's nothing to worry about. But I am no expert by any means, just common sense
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