EPTI don't really want to deal with upgrading/changing my processor so I figured either more RAM or a better video card would be the right choice. Or maybe both, I just don't want my processor to be bottlenecking my computer.
Computer RAM Question
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soybomb
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I don't really want to deal with upgrading/changing my processor so I figured either more RAM or a better video card would be the right choice. Or maybe both, I just don't want my processor to be bottlenecking my computer. | ||
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On March 01 2009 15:28 blabber wrote: DDR RAM is pretty expensive though It is.? | ||
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IzzyCraft
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It's rare haha because it's not used anymore it's price stays high for higher density models 1gig or higher. It's not a horrible price but expect 50-80 bucks depends on the ram etc (im talking about 1 gig+ the only worth while upgrade). imo buy 2gigs and just toss the old stick. You wont find the dirt cheap 2 gig ram for 20 bucks because no innovations are put to DDR but it's not so bad. | ||
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Honestly though, what do you think you can do with a minor upgrade that you can't do now? Your PC is far too slow to play any modern games either way, and it's fast enough for simple office work already. You will have to invest in a new computer to get any enjoyment out of it. | ||
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gusbear
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On March 01 2009 15:44 IzzyCraft wrote: It's rare haha because it's not used anymore it's price stays high for higher density models 1gig or higher. It's not a horrible price but expect 50-80 bucks depends on the ram etc (im talking about 1 gig+ the only worth while upgrade). imo buy 2gigs and just toss the old stick. You wont find the dirt cheap 2 gig ram for 20 bucks because no innovations are put to DDR but it's not so bad. ddr2 is dirt cheap. 184pin ddr which is what he needs is comparatively expensive. | ||
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soybomb
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On March 02 2009 02:28 Scorch wrote: You probably don't have a PCIe slot in that ancient computer, so you shouldn't buy a new graphics card that you can't transfer to another computer. RAM should be very cheap and will probably give you the greatest boost at a low price. Honestly though, what do you think you can do with a minor upgrade that you can't do now? Your PC is far too slow to play any modern games either way, and it's fast enough for simple office work already. You will have to invest in a new computer to get any enjoyment out of it. Very good points and you're right, I should just invest in a new computer. However, I'm unemployed currently so I'm just going to double my RAM for around $35 and wait to buy a new system when I am back on my feet. | ||
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Racenilatr
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soybomb
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If I have 2 sticks of 256MB RAM, can I just add a stick of 512MB RAM? Or must the RAM all be the same amount? | ||
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Raithed
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On March 02 2009 09:02 soybomb wrote: New question: If I have 2 sticks of 256MB RAM, can I just add a stick of 512MB RAM? Or must the RAM all be the same amount? this depends, how many slots do you have? some mobos have 2 slots allowing: 2 512, 2 256, 2 1gb, 2 2gb etc. it depends on the max ram of your computer. | ||
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soybomb
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On March 02 2009 09:08 Raithed wrote: this depends, how many slots do you have? some mobos have 2 slots allowing: 2 512, 2 256, 2 1gb, 2 2gb etc. it depends on the max ram of your computer. My motherboard manual states: -Supports up to three DDR333 double-sided memory modules with a total capacity of 3GB -Supports up to two DDR400 double-sided memory modules with a total capacity of 2GB Edit: OK, so I read more in the manual and it states to equally distribute RAM across the 3 slots. So if I already have 2 sticks of 256, then I can add a 512 to the third slot. It just says the 512 stick should be 16-chip, while the 256's are 8-chip. Hm, I'll have to check that out. | ||
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feathers
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soybomb
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On March 02 2009 10:42 feathers wrote: ram has nothing to do with your computers actually speed. Uh...what? | ||
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gusbear
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getting more ram will allow you to have more stuff open. typically when you run out of physical ram it will start paging to disk and your pc will bog down. go to the task manager (cntrl-alt-del) and check the performance tab --> Physical Memory available should be more than 50,000 or so when you are at max usage. 512mb is pretty much the minimum to run XP on so I'd expect that you are actually running out of ram, as you suspected. if your pc was fine before but you are finding it bogging down recently, its probably cos you have lots of useless stuff running that you collected over time. So check the processes tab, and look at mem usage, you probably have lots of junk running that you don't need so close them. For more details try http://pcwizkid.blogspot.com/2008/07/windows-task-manager.html i googled that in 2 secs but theres probably better guides out there to help you understand what ram is for and if you need more | ||
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soybomb
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On March 03 2009 03:47 gusbear wrote: what is the purpose of upgrading? you know you still won't be able to play any of the newer games until u upgrade your whole system right? getting more ram will allow you to have more stuff open. typically when you run out of physical ram it will start paging to disk and your pc will bog down. go to the task manager (cntrl-alt-del) and check the performance tab --> Physical Memory available should be more than 50,000 or so when you are at max usage. 512mb is pretty much the minimum to run XP on so I'd expect that you are actually running out of ram, as you suspected. if your pc was fine before but you are finding it bogging down recently, its probably cos you have lots of useless stuff running that you collected over time. So check the processes tab, and look at mem usage, you probably have lots of junk running that you don't need so close them. For more details try http://pcwizkid.blogspot.com/2008/07/windows-task-manager.html i googled that in 2 secs but theres probably better guides out there to help you understand what ram is for and if you need more My purpose with getting more RAM isn't to play newer games, it's so I have less lag while playing the games I play currently and to lessen lag in photoshop. I already run msconfig and disable everything. | ||
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Divinek
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On March 02 2009 10:42 feathers wrote: ram has nothing to do with your computers actually speed. If you even know what ram stands for I'm sure you wouldn't be saying that. | ||
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gusbear
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ur mobo only supports ddr333 when u have 3 sticks so that means if you buy ddr400 memory (the most common), it will be forced to run underclocked. This is fine if your current memory is ddr333, however if it is currently ddr400 and you make it ddr333 when you add another stick of ram, you will need to go in bios and change your ratios so that you don't force the cpu to run slower. I would recommend 2 sticks of 1 gig instead, its about $50 from newegg. Also, if your mobo supports dual channel, might as well take advantage of it. Theres tons of people getting rid of their old PCs too so you could prolly get used DDR ram for cheap. Also maybe your hard drive is slowing you down, they are really cheap now and much faster, and you can never have enough space. | ||
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feathers
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On March 03 2009 08:03 Divinek wrote: If you even know what ram stands for I'm sure you wouldn't be saying that. random access memory, and long as you have enough ram so your cpu won't be taking data from your Page file. you won't seen any real performance increase. most computer users don't need any more then 2gs of ram. you will not see any performance increase in games if you just upgrade your memory. | ||
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