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minus_human
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
4784 Posts
February 11 2009 22:26 GMT
#41
And for Christ's sake why can't you people get and I was trying to start an argument with Xeris based on a VERY inconclusive/general premise, specifically for the purpose of being able to meaninglessly continue any type of argue later on.
minus_human
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
4784 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-02-11 22:30:36
February 11 2009 22:29 GMT
#42
When I first posted in this thread (which is a JOKE type of BLOG if you haven't noticed), I didn't though of something really interesting or smart to argue about, I just though it would be cool to write a big post with unnecessarily sophisticated language/phrases so that it would be really funny and immature to argue about it later.

Things took a WAY too serious turn

lighten up everyone

and where the fuck is Xeris
He lied in the OP
CTStalker
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
Canada9720 Posts
February 11 2009 22:35 GMT
#43
john cleese. always a classic
By the way, my name is Funk. I am not of your world
daz
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
Canada643 Posts
February 11 2009 22:47 GMT
#44
On February 12 2009 07:24 minus_human wrote:
Frontier is intended to show that I'm talking about the ratio between the best (as in, international scientist/philosophers) individuals of an imaginary distant future generation and the mass of people of that very same generation. What I'm trying to say is that, considering humans will greatly increase in numbers in a few hundreds/thousands of years, the percent of really advanced persons from all the living people of a certain generation will be really small compared to what it is today, and as a balancing factor, those best individuals will be REALLY advanced compared to the rest, much more than the general top scientists of today are in comparison to the generation we're a part of.

So I'm saying, does he think that the scenario I described above is more likely or on the contrary, despite the fact that human variation is normal, the evolution of the human race will decrease the variety and allow a relatively uniform intellectual improvement of the vast majority of humans.


My initial post was indeed intended to sound smart, and there were pompous expressions that weren't really necessary. But after that I really expressed my self in the most simple/efficient manner I could without molesting the English language.

Sorry if it seems superfluous to you, to me it seems that you should try harder to associate the additional information words such as 'frontier' bring to a give sentence.


i still dont get it. Why would "really advanced persons" not also follow the trend of "greatly increase in numbers" like the rest of society?
Some eat to remember, some smash to forget. 2009msl.com
minus_human
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
4784 Posts
February 11 2009 22:56 GMT
#45
do you understand the difference between 'number' and PERCENTAGE?

just drop it
Chef
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
10810 Posts
February 11 2009 22:56 GMT
#46
On February 12 2009 07:29 minus_human wrote:
When I first posted in this thread (which is a JOKE type of BLOG if you haven't noticed), I didn't though of something really interesting or smart to argue about, I just though it would be cool to write a big post with unnecessarily sophisticated language/phrases so that it would be really funny and immature to argue about it later.

Things took a WAY too serious turn

lighten up everyone

and where the fuck is Xeris
He lied in the OP

SHUT YOUR FESTERING GOB, YOU TIT! YOUR TYPE MAKES ME PUKE! YOU VACUOUS TOFFEE-NOSED MALODOROUS PERVERT!
LEGEND!! LEGEND!!
minus_human
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
4784 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-02-11 23:02:36
February 11 2009 23:01 GMT
#47
On February 12 2009 07:56 Chef wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 12 2009 07:29 minus_human wrote:
When I first posted in this thread (which is a JOKE type of BLOG if you haven't noticed), I didn't though of something really interesting or smart to argue about, I just though it would be cool to write a big post with unnecessarily sophisticated language/phrases so that it would be really funny and immature to argue about it later.

Things took a WAY too serious turn

lighten up everyone

and where the fuck is Xeris
He lied in the OP

SHUT YOUR FESTERING GOB, YOU TIT! YOUR TYPE MAKES ME PUKE! YOU VACUOUS TOFFEE-NOSED MALODOROUS PERVERT!



NO u shut up U SUCK

what the hell is your name supposed to mean anyway jesus the best I could think about when reading fucking 'chef' as a name is this:

[image loading]



U CANNOT COME CLOSE TO MY INTELLECTUAL SKILLZ NUB haha
Chef
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
10810 Posts
February 11 2009 23:03 GMT
#48
Don't give me that, you snotty-faced heap of parrot droppings!
LEGEND!! LEGEND!!
DeepGreen
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States175 Posts
February 11 2009 23:05 GMT
#49
If your head were a car, the breaks would be under your tongue. Without a doubt.
So I told him your car was like that when I got here and as for your grandmother she shouldnt have mouthed off like that
minus_human
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
4784 Posts
February 11 2009 23:11 GMT
#50
On February 12 2009 08:03 Chef wrote:
Don't give me that, you snotty-faced heap of parrot droppings!



You slimy ass-wipe public toilet floor licking kitchen knives fantasizing pedophile, my computer lags when I go over your posts, you're THAT stupid

+ Show Spoiler +
this is fun and all but the op sucks for abandoning his blog >.<
minus_human
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
4784 Posts
February 11 2009 23:14 GMT
#51
lol maybe some mod will drop by and ban us for this without reading the thread
Hippopotamus
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
1914 Posts
February 11 2009 23:21 GMT
#52
“Society is fundamentally responsible for class divisions,” says Foucault; however, according to von Junz , it is not so much society that is fundamentally responsible for class divisions, but rather the fatal flaw, and some would say the defining characteristic, of society. It could be said that Reicher states that we have to choose between deconstructive materialism and Foucaultist power relations. Baudrillardist simulation suggests that narrativity is capable of intentionality.

The main theme of the works of Rushdie is the genre, and eventually the fatal flaw, of precultural sexual identity. Therefore, in The Moor’s Last Sigh, Rushdie affirms socialist realism; in The Ground Beneath Her Feet, however, he deconstructs dialectic capitalism. The premise of structuralist nihilism states that consciousness, perhaps paradoxically, has objective value, but only if Baudrillardist simulation is valid; otherwise, the significance of the participant is social comment.

It could be said that Sontag uses the term ‘posttextual desublimation’ to denote the difference between class and society. The premise of socialist realism implies that the State is capable of deconstruction, given that sexuality is interchangeable with truth.

In a sense, if dialectic capitalism holds, we have to choose between socialist realism and deconstructive feminism. The primary theme of la Tournier’s analysis of postdialectic nationalism is the role of the observer as poet.

Therefore, Foucault promotes the use of dialectic capitalism to challenge hierarchy. The subject is contextualised into a that includes reality as a paradox.





Prove me wrong, in an aspect of your choosing. I'll argue back, even if I may respond slowly.

daz
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
Canada643 Posts
February 11 2009 23:21 GMT
#53
On February 12 2009 07:56 minus_human wrote:
do you understand the difference between 'number' and PERCENTAGE?

just drop it


i would have dropped it, except now your trying to insult my intelligence. Where in my post do you get the idea i dont undestand the difference between 'number' and PERCENTAGE. I understand that you mean that the 'number' of all humans will increase, but why would the 'number' of humans increasing result in a smaller PERCENTAGE of 'really advanced persons'. Are you trying to argue that 'really advanced persons' are not humans, and therefore the ratio of 'really advance persons' to 'humans' will decrease if the 'number' of humans increases?
Some eat to remember, some smash to forget. 2009msl.com
minus_human
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
4784 Posts
February 11 2009 23:37 GMT
#54
On February 12 2009 08:21 daz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 12 2009 07:56 minus_human wrote:
do you understand the difference between 'number' and PERCENTAGE?

just drop it


. I understand that you mean that the 'number' of all humans will increase, but why would the 'number' of humans increasing result in a smaller PERCENTAGE of 'really advanced persons'.



I am not trying to insult you.
If just the number of people increases, the percentage should stay the same, it should not increase by default.

It was my theory, the first supposition, that this percentage will shrink. I wasn't a logical conclusion or anything, it was something I wanted to debate.

And stop inventing things you think I might have wanted to say
Chef
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
10810 Posts
February 11 2009 23:45 GMT
#55
It might shrink I suppose, if smart people had fewer children than dumb people... But then you have to qualify what smart is, and what stupid is... and then you have to do studies to find out if they really are having fewer children... And it's really an impossible thing to argue. Either the facts are there or they aren't.
LEGEND!! LEGEND!!
minus_human
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
4784 Posts
February 11 2009 23:47 GMT
#56
On February 12 2009 08:45 Chef wrote:
It might shrink I suppose, if smart people had fewer children than dumb people... But then you have to qualify what smart is, and what stupid is... and then you have to do studies to find out if they really are having fewer children... And it's really an impossible thing to argue. Either the facts are there or they aren't.


It should all be theoretical really, because I was talking about imagining how humanity could evolve in a very distant future. Of course we can't predict that, but we can make theories
b3h47pte
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States1317 Posts
February 12 2009 00:04 GMT
#57
kya kya kya pew pew. e-drama.
I win. Argue that if you want >:o
zulu_nation8
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
China26351 Posts
February 12 2009 00:10 GMT
#58
On February 12 2009 08:21 Hippopotamus wrote:
“Society is fundamentally responsible for class divisions,” says Foucault; however, according to von Junz , it is not so much society that is fundamentally responsible for class divisions, but rather the fatal flaw, and some would say the defining characteristic, of society. It could be said that Reicher states that we have to choose between deconstructive materialism and Foucaultist power relations. Baudrillardist simulation suggests that narrativity is capable of intentionality.

The main theme of the works of Rushdie is the genre, and eventually the fatal flaw, of precultural sexual identity. Therefore, in The Moor’s Last Sigh, Rushdie affirms socialist realism; in The Ground Beneath Her Feet, however, he deconstructs dialectic capitalism. The premise of structuralist nihilism states that consciousness, perhaps paradoxically, has objective value, but only if Baudrillardist simulation is valid; otherwise, the significance of the participant is social comment.

It could be said that Sontag uses the term ‘posttextual desublimation’ to denote the difference between class and society. The premise of socialist realism implies that the State is capable of deconstruction, given that sexuality is interchangeable with truth.

In a sense, if dialectic capitalism holds, we have to choose between socialist realism and deconstructive feminism. The primary theme of la Tournier’s analysis of postdialectic nationalism is the role of the observer as poet.

Therefore, Foucault promotes the use of dialectic capitalism to challenge hierarchy. The subject is contextualised into a that includes reality as a paradox.





Prove me wrong, in an aspect of your choosing. I'll argue back, even if I may respond slowly.



I would bet my right nut Foucault has never in his life said: “Society is fundamentally responsible for class divisions.”
minus_human
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
4784 Posts
February 12 2009 00:16 GMT
#59
On February 12 2009 09:10 zulu_nation8 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 12 2009 08:21 Hippopotamus wrote:
“Society is fundamentally responsible for class divisions,” says Foucault; however, according to von Junz , it is not so much society that is fundamentally responsible for class divisions, but rather the fatal flaw, and some would say the defining characteristic, of society. It could be said that Reicher states that we have to choose between deconstructive materialism and Foucaultist power relations. Baudrillardist simulation suggests that narrativity is capable of intentionality.

The main theme of the works of Rushdie is the genre, and eventually the fatal flaw, of precultural sexual identity. Therefore, in The Moor’s Last Sigh, Rushdie affirms socialist realism; in The Ground Beneath Her Feet, however, he deconstructs dialectic capitalism. The premise of structuralist nihilism states that consciousness, perhaps paradoxically, has objective value, but only if Baudrillardist simulation is valid; otherwise, the significance of the participant is social comment.

It could be said that Sontag uses the term ‘posttextual desublimation’ to denote the difference between class and society. The premise of socialist realism implies that the State is capable of deconstruction, given that sexuality is interchangeable with truth.

In a sense, if dialectic capitalism holds, we have to choose between socialist realism and deconstructive feminism. The primary theme of la Tournier’s analysis of postdialectic nationalism is the role of the observer as poet.

Therefore, Foucault promotes the use of dialectic capitalism to challenge hierarchy. The subject is contextualised into a that includes reality as a paradox.





Prove me wrong, in an aspect of your choosing. I'll argue back, even if I may respond slowly.



I would bet my right nut Foucault has never in his life said: “Society is fundamentally responsible for class divisions.”


I was wondering if you'd show up
daz
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
Canada643 Posts
February 12 2009 00:39 GMT
#60
On February 12 2009 08:37 minus_human wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 12 2009 08:21 daz wrote:
On February 12 2009 07:56 minus_human wrote:
do you understand the difference between 'number' and PERCENTAGE?

just drop it


. I understand that you mean that the 'number' of all humans will increase, but why would the 'number' of humans increasing result in a smaller PERCENTAGE of 'really advanced persons'.



I am not trying to insult you.
If just the number of people increases, the percentage should stay the same, it should not increase by default.

It was my theory, the first supposition, that this percentage will shrink. I wasn't a logical conclusion or anything, it was something I wanted to debate.

And stop inventing things you think I might have wanted to say


of course the percentage should stay the same by default. And yet you state that it wont. But you fail to explain why. You failed to even attempt to explain why, you just said it. I didnt invent something that you might have wanted to say, i was trying to figure out what you were trying to say, and I still haven't figured it out. It's not really a theory if there is absolutely no reasoning at all behind it.

Oh and P.S. dont be a fucking pussy and say weren't trying to insult me just because your insult was a horrible failure. Have the guts to admit you were being confrontational
Some eat to remember, some smash to forget. 2009msl.com
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