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Malongo
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Chile3472 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-02-08 04:39:57
February 05 2009 23:31 GMT
#1
This was already posted but i think it deserves at least a blog on his own. For a long time my worst fear was to die without solving this LOL (see spoiler). Note that its not a homework thread but a mathematics thread as im asking the great minds in TL to share theyr wisdom and find an alternative solution to this NiceTriangle. I solved it using elementary geometry, but i want to find different solutions either using trigonometry elemtary geometry or any other method. Ill post my solution later.

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History about how i got this problem
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It was my last year in highschool and we were all working hard for the selecction test that applies to University. There was this teacher, a true mathematics lover, that i had before and he was doing some extra classes. The fact is that he had cancer and was really next to pass away, oddly enough with that precarious health he was doing classes. When I asked about it he said he prefered to be working rather than in bed. Then one day someone found a book this teacher wrote (a simple exercises book) that had this problem as the last one... unsolved. He told us that this was an easy problem about elementary geometry, and some other stuff i dont remember. I totally forgot about this, two months later i applied to University and he died next month. When i came back to find this problem later i was intrigued about my inhability to solve it. I asked some University teachers and the best shot i got was "meh this is easy use trigonometry". For about 2 years i came back from time to time just to get dissapointed about it. Luckily enough i solved it some time ago, RIP Domingo Almendras.


My solution (Full solution inside):
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Are you sure?? dont give up man come on! fight!
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Help me! im still improving my English. An eye for an eye makes the whole world blind. M. G.
Fontong
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States6454 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-02-05 23:50:32
February 05 2009 23:32 GMT
#2
edit: woops ok we were confused since the pic wasnt showing.

Ok im taking a look at it right now, this is actually a pretty cool problem.

Currently realizing how much geometry I've forgotten.
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indecision
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
Germany818 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-02-05 23:34:05
February 05 2009 23:33 GMT
#3
where is the actual question? [edit: ok pic showing now]
Malongo
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Chile3472 Posts
February 05 2009 23:34 GMT
#4
On February 06 2009 08:33 indecision wrote:
where is the actual question?

Solve X
Help me! im still improving my English. An eye for an eye makes the whole world blind. M. G.
Avidkeystamper
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States8556 Posts
February 05 2009 23:41 GMT
#5
Hint+ Show Spoiler +
Draw an equilateral triangle using the base of the triangle
Jaedong
sigma_x
Profile Joined March 2008
Australia285 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-02-05 23:52:32
February 05 2009 23:51 GMT
#6
Label the inside triangle DEF (with D lying on AB and F lying on AC). Construct a line from E to a point we shall call G on DF such that GEF is 50. Use this to motivate another construction of a line from E to AC. The answer quickly follows to be
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x=80 degrees

statix
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States1760 Posts
February 05 2009 23:55 GMT
#7
SCC-Caliban
Not_Computer
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Canada2277 Posts
February 05 2009 23:58 GMT
#8
this looks like fun

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gl
"Jaedong hyung better be ready. I'm going to order the most expensive dinner in Korea."
disciple
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
9070 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-02-06 00:01:38
February 06 2009 00:00 GMT
#9
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it looks like x= 60 to me but its not
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klizzer
Profile Joined March 2008
517 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-02-06 00:17:06
February 06 2009 00:06 GMT
#10
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It's 80 degrees. GL with finding the solution

edit: i might spoiler stuff.
GHOSTCLAW
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States17042 Posts
February 06 2009 00:13 GMT
#11
On February 06 2009 08:58 Not_Computer wrote:
this looks like fun

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gl


This was how I was going to do it too, and then i scrolled and saw that you had already done it

You can't really do it by any other method, unless you start arbitrarily assigning side lengths. Pretty simple problem.
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ydg
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States690 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-02-06 00:22:12
February 06 2009 00:17 GMT
#12
wait what's so hard about it
he says ab=ac, so you know like all but 4 angles already
and then some simple linear algebra and you get the solutions for all the angles

owat
i get x=free variable
The only courage that matters is the kind that gets you from one moment to the next.
Malongo
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Chile3472 Posts
February 06 2009 00:25 GMT
#13
On February 06 2009 09:17 ydg wrote:
wait what's so hard about it
he says ab=ac, so you know like all but 4 angles already
and then some simple linear algebra and you get the solutions for all the angles

owat
i get x=free variable

LOL thats what it makes it a NiceTriangle, try your simple linear algebra
Help me! im still improving my English. An eye for an eye makes the whole world blind. M. G.
WindCalibur
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
Canada938 Posts
February 06 2009 00:28 GMT
#14
how come i get X as any integer within 1<X < 110 . . .
CDRdude
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States5625 Posts
February 06 2009 00:47 GMT
#15
On February 06 2009 09:25 malongo wrote:
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On February 06 2009 09:17 ydg wrote:
wait what's so hard about it
he says ab=ac, so you know like all but 4 angles already
and then some simple linear algebra and you get the solutions for all the angles

owat
i get x=free variable

LOL thats what it makes it a NiceTriangle, try your simple linear algebra

I tried that before reading any further down the page, and I wound up with a singular matrix. Very interesting, I'll have to think a bit more
Force staff is the best item in the game.
Zortch
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Canada635 Posts
February 06 2009 00:59 GMT
#16
Don't wanna bother to write my solution but here is my answer:
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x=20
Respect is everything. ~ARchon
SmoKing2012
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
United States385 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-02-06 01:06:05
February 06 2009 01:05 GMT
#17
arg I'm stuck with 4 unknown angles
How do you like them apples, ho-bag? And how do you like those very same apples, Eggars!
Avidkeystamper
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States8556 Posts
February 06 2009 01:30 GMT
#18
On February 06 2009 09:59 Zortch wrote:
Don't wanna bother to write my solution but here is my answer:
+ Show Spoiler +
x=20

Jaedong
Boblion
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
France8043 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-02-06 01:46:04
February 06 2009 01:45 GMT
#19
On February 06 2009 10:30 Avidkeystamper wrote:
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On February 06 2009 09:59 Zortch wrote:
Don't wanna bother to write my solution but here is my answer:
+ Show Spoiler +
x=20


Haha ty for the hint, couldn't find the last angles ;D
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fuck all those elitists brb watching streams of elite players.
minus_human
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
4784 Posts
February 06 2009 09:42 GMT
#20
the drawing is kinda wrong
that 50 degree angle isn't 50 at all
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