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Films where a 'normal' (usually wise-cracking or particularly stupid and impulsive) person gets thrust into a world of amazing occurrences. It offends me on several levels, and makes me want to throw live grenades at the writers.
Offenders include:
Narnia series
Harry Potter
Recently, 'The Forbidden Kingdom'
Transformers
But there's any number. What I find so fucking irritating is I can just see the writers desperate to relate the story to their target audience. And when you can see writers' intent, it ruins the third wall and makes it difficult to connect with the actual story, making you constantly aware that you are being spun a yarn. (And this is an objection purely against its use in pure stories).
Ofc harry potter and narnia etc have their redeeming features btw, it's just that device which pisses me off. That Philip Pullman is another offender.
Another thing I hate is flashbacks in video games. I DON'T GIVE A SHIT HOW WHAT HAPPENED, HAPPENED, I JUST WANT TO KNOW THAT MY ACTIONS ARE DIRECTLY RELEVANT TO THE CURRENT SITUATION OF THE CHARACTER I AM EMOTIONALLY INVOLVED IN AFTER HAVING PLAYED THE GAME FOR LIKE 10 HOURS ffs. Flashbacks in movies and books suck too.
/endvitriol
 
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The flashback complaint is stupid. Oh, you're involved in the character? Ok, then fuck you, we won't tell you anything about the character. If you just want to play a game with no story, then fucking go play Halo or some shit. Saying you are emotionally attached to a character and then saying you don't give a fuck about their backstory in a game is stupid. Don't play a game with a story then.
Do you also think that Narnia and Harry Potter are breaking the third wall in the books? Are you fucking serious? So basically any book or work of fiction is breaking the third wall if you can relate to it? You don't like being able to see a writer's intent? Are you fucking serious (again)? Maybe you're just so goddamned smart that only you are able to see this desperate attempt to relate the characters to the audience. But god fucking forbid you be able to relate to the character. Wait, how the fuck are you emotionally attached to them then?
LOL
"I DONT CARE ABOUT WHAT HAPPENED TO THIS CHARACTER IVE BEEN PLAYING FOR 10 HOURS"
you fucking magically transport to a random fucking island in the medieval ages with a pistol and a rocket launcher. some goblin creatures land in a giant spacecraft and start shooting at you with lasers while townspeople run around screaming in french. this is all very strange since you were just in vietnam. but fuck flashbacks or any sort of explanation, fuck you, i just want to know how it affects my actions!!!
/rant
sorry lol
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A short paragraph or two about their past, yeah fine. A few intimations, and DEFINITELY a nice deal of speech about their character in an organic conversation. A ham-fisted, 'shit I need to get you up to the right point in the story so I'll flashback for 1 chapter' flashback scene is IMO retarded.
Ps you know this is my opinion? I mean I'm sure you came out spoiling for a fight, perhaps because you get beaten up at school for being emaciated and pasty, but can you try to not be SO angry at someone having a different opinion to you?
And btw I never said that backstory isn't important, that's just your down's syndrome level comprehension skills
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how do these things offend you? if you don't like it don't touch it, don't bitch about it
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Superiorwolf, the point is that I might really really like the work in question, and then they go and ruin my experience with a ham-fisted flashback or just the premise that's it's some retarded wise-cracking american teenager who is the protagonist to which I'm supposed to relate, being the target audience. It just offends my sensibilities, and you don't seem to see the point of a vitriolic blog if you tell me to not bitch about it. I'm just venting here!
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Just making sure, you do know you spelled Hammered wrong right?
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fucking forbidden kingdom was the biggest fucking travesty fucking ever, the only way its even a movie is if it's entitled "BORAT, in ancient china". i cant believe those actors even agreed to that piece of shit movie, i would like to wipe my ass with the manuscript for the movie.
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On January 29 2009 11:07 SnowFantasy wrote:
Just making sure, you do know you spelled Hammered wrong right?
My name is Douglas Hamer, HamerD. Nickname since young age. Other nicknames include 'Warhamer' and 'stop: Hamer time'
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On January 29 2009 11:08 Creationism wrote:
fucking forbidden kingdom was the biggest fucking travesty fucking ever, the only way its even a movie is if it's entitled "BORAT, in ancient china". i cant believe those actors even agreed to that piece of shit movie, i would like to wipe my ass with the manuscript for the movie.
It felt like a kid's movie. I hated the protagonist too, he's high up in my list of 'hey! I know! We might get more money if our target audience can relate to the main character!' crappy characters.
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My problem with flashbacks is that they COMPLETELY lack subtlety. They are a plot hammer smashed into your face. Intimations in a conversation, facts revealed by the main character, a situation which we learn about at the same pace as a normal person who can't see into the past with a tv screen; are much better stimulation for your imagination and getting to grips with the plot.
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On January 29 2009 11:01 HamerD wrote:
A short paragraph or two about their past, yeah fine. A few intimations, and DEFINITELY a nice deal of speech about their character in an organic conversation. A ham-fisted, 'shit I need to get you up to the right point in the story so I'll flashback for 1 chapter' flashback scene is IMO retarded.
Ps you know this is my opinion? I mean I'm sure you came out spoiling for a fight, perhaps because you get beaten up at school for being emaciated and pasty, but can you try to not be SO angry at someone having a different opinion to you?
And btw I never said that backstory isn't important, that's just your down's syndrome level comprehension skills
Calm down noob, you clearly mistook my imitating your post as some sort of attack on you.
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I have an intense hatred of: "people that dont undestand stories for younger people". I mean according to your profile youre 20 WTF¿?. Just read other shit, get over puberty and dont fill TL with trash.
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You know what really pisses me off, pointless writing in video games. GTA4 is one of the most annoying games I have ever played. What the fuck is the point of creating a 5 minute long pointless cinematic at the beginning of a mission? Less than 1% of it is memorable and it just goes on and on and on. I don't want to spend the first hour of playing a game going on a virtual date bowling with a chick. Bowling? Are you fucking kidding me? How did they manage to go from GTA San Andreas to one of the most tedious games I've ever played? I don't get it. Half life 2 and especially the new episodes are even worse in this aspect. At this point makes 0 sense to have a non talking main character while getting locked in rooms for hours to watch some douchy npc babble about gay generic scifi crap. It seems that the more successful some game developers become the more pretentious they get. Half life 1 and GTA2 are still the best games of their series by far.
When you implement writing and acting in a game do it like blizzard, get good writers who know what they're doing and don't implement talking for the sake of talking. Gabe Newell and Dan Houser need to be fired and banned from the gaming industry forever, their material at this point is about as bad as reading 12 year old fanfiction.
I disagree with both your points by the way Hamerd, I don't remember a single game with excessive flashbacks and the thing about movies is a great tool to make you identify with the main character. 2 good guys casually chatting on the other hand while slaying a horde of bad guys, that shit pisses me off. If you aren't Arnold or Clint you can't pull that shit off stop doing this arghhh I just want to bitchslap the directors of LOTR and 300 so badly for this.
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On January 29 2009 11:19 malongo wrote:
I have an intense hatred of: "people that dont undestand stories for younger people". I mean according to your profile youre 20 WTF¿?. Just read other shit, get over puberty and dont fill TL with trash.
Loads of blogs are vents of rage. Get over it. I do read other shit. Why can't I be pissed off at things aimed at people different to me? I have been younger, and was equally irritated when younger. And some films aimed at adults are just as stupid with lame flashbacks. What's wrong with being pissed off at retarded things in life, and expressing it? Half of the critic industry in England is about sheer rage at the incompetence of people. What's wrong with being pissed off at High School Musical or Bridget Jones' Diary? It's my fucking opinion, just because you don't like it when people talk about their personal feelings because your father beat you over his knee when you told him you were interested in men.
I already got one pm from a guy who agreed with me and it felt good to see that someone else feels the same way. Whenever I get pm's like that it always makes me feel nice to see some solidarity and that I'm not alone with my opinion of the world. That's a good feeling, so why shouldn't I recreate it? 90% of the blogs in TL are tosh, and tbh so are 90% of the threads. 90% of life is tosh. Get over it and stop trying to be pithy and cool by using standard buzzphrases like 'get over puberty', it doesn't make you any better at life.
PS Frits that's like the best post I could possibly have expected you making, ever! To disagree with me, but not have to resort to insults and faggy e-penis rhetoric. My hatred of flashbacks is less directed, and more just free-wheeling, but let me just find in my memory a few examples.
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Hmm...most of the time I can get over it, but if the writing is unbearable and the plot that ridiculous, then yeah...it gets ruined for me.
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