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Salv
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
Canada3083 Posts
January 25 2009 21:27 GMT
#21
I was trying to practice this and everything is fine up to:

8pylon
10gate
11/12assim
13core
15gateway

Then.. you create a dragoon and your at 17/17; then a pylon and I create range. After this however, I don't have enough minerals to do the following:
  • Resume probe production fully after the 17/17 pylon warps
  • Create two dragoons at the two gateways
  • Create a third pylon after the two dragoons, because then your at 21/25 or 22/25


So, I am not sure if this is correct and your still supposed to be cutting probes to get those two goons AND the third pylon or what.
ff7legend
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
United States213 Posts
January 25 2009 21:54 GMT
#22
Your range comes first then u build a goon at 15/17, dont start probe production to soon, as you should be able to pump 5 goons without getting pylong stuck.
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Nick_54
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
United States2230 Posts
January 25 2009 22:02 GMT
#23
On January 26 2009 06:27 Salv wrote:
I was trying to practice this and everything is fine up to:

8pylon
10gate
11/12assim
13core
15gateway

Then.. you create a dragoon and your at 17/17; then a pylon and I create range. After this however, I don't have enough minerals to do the following:
  • Resume probe production fully after the 17/17 pylon warps
  • Create two dragoons at the two gateways
  • Create a third pylon after the two dragoons, because then your at 21/25 or 22/25


So, I am not sure if this is correct and your still supposed to be cutting probes to get those two goons AND the third pylon or what.


You have to keep cutting probes. A good example of the build order is Dreiven vs Ex from TSL on longinus. I also think he may have used it against Advokate, but I am not sure.
Salv
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
Canada3083 Posts
January 25 2009 22:23 GMT
#24
On January 26 2009 06:54 ff7legend wrote:
Your range comes first then u build a goon at 15/17, dont start probe production to soon, as you should be able to pump 5 goons without getting pylong stuck.


Oh OK. Thanks, this helps. I was under the impression that I only skipped probes at 15.
Mastermind
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Canada7096 Posts
January 25 2009 22:54 GMT
#25
I do
10 gate
11 assimilator
13 core
15 gate, cut probes
goon
range
pylon
dont start getting probes until you build another pylon and can afford constant goon production.
jimminy_kriket
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Canada5498 Posts
January 25 2009 23:11 GMT
#26
look for the replay of bisu vs nada on longinus or the replay of bisu vs really on medusa
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TT1
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada9992 Posts
January 26 2009 15:27 GMT
#27
or stork vs sharp_v_ @ iest on longi
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EsX_Raptor
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States2801 Posts
January 26 2009 17:05 GMT
#28
From what I know, 10/15 rush works better on maps with no ramps where you can harrass the terran wall if he's FEing, if he's rushing, you have a good build that won't get you killed.
Hypnosis
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States2061 Posts
January 26 2009 17:57 GMT
#29
Cut this shit out all you bad micro tosses, it doesnt work anymore :D
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