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The "I Pwn No0bs" Dillemma

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cgrinker
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States3824 Posts
January 23 2009 04:41 GMT
#1
You probably have a friend like me. You probably think to yourself "Fuck that Kid. I work hard and think about the metaphysics of the games. He may be faster but he is still just a scrub." You are the kind of person that is proactive (no, not the acne medication.) You run the game by various build orders, macro skills timing, or whatever non RTS equivalents would fit into this list. And you worked hard on this, pouring over strat forums, massing games, feeling like crap because you had an off day.

I do none of this. What I do is Pwn No0bs. This is not better in any way, in fact its probably worse. But the No0bs are pwned none the less.

I in fact play a pivotal role in the gaming community. Your friend's little brother and his crew? The ones that think they are the shit at video games? I'm the one that shuts them up. This is not a brag, I don't think I have ever had bragging rights among the real communities, this is simply what I do. In two days there is a Smash Bros Tourny at my school, a school that has no pros, no players important in the community. I'm going to go there and beat them. I can't wave dash, or any of the SSBB equivlients, those "tech skills." But I'm still going to win probably, not because I am more skilled, simply because I am faster, quicker to react.

In reality I see myself as a trained No0b. I am stuck in this Limbo between being adept at playing video games and actually being Good. I have flaunted many I time that I am going to take the leap of faith: begin the quest to be a big name, to try and actually be an "influence" on a game. But saddly I've never done it. Getting beat so many times on ICCup just makes it too demoralizing to keep pushing. I just spent the last hour on Smashboards (Ick!) trying to figure out what I could do to improve my chances. I'm not going to be able to do it. I have peaked at 18, how depressing.

Maybe when SC II comes out...

***
cgrinker
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States3824 Posts
January 23 2009 04:42 GMT
#2
Go ahead and flame that if you want, just know that I wasn't trying to be a dick.
Malongo
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Chile3472 Posts
January 23 2009 04:44 GMT
#3
iccup really hurt your ego man. peace.
Help me! im still improving my English. An eye for an eye makes the whole world blind. M. G.
DanceCommander
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States1808 Posts
January 23 2009 04:46 GMT
#4
Yea, sounds like he just got raped in some game he just played. Good luck at the tourny bro~
liger13
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States1060 Posts
January 23 2009 04:56 GMT
#5
you must understand...
even a n00b can Pwn...
GL on that tourny
I feel like pwning noobs
Straylight
Profile Joined March 2008
Canada706 Posts
January 23 2009 05:05 GMT
#6
Who the fuck still types "pwn" and "no0b". Grow up.
It felt like gravity.
Yogurt
Profile Blog Joined June 2005
United States4258 Posts
January 23 2009 05:07 GMT
#7
On January 23 2009 14:05 Straylight wrote:
Who the fuck still types "pwn" and "no0b". Grow up.


Who the fuck cares how people type on the internet? Grow up.
ok dont not so good something is something ok ok ok gogogo
Humbug
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States264 Posts
January 23 2009 05:14 GMT
#8
:O Another smash fan! Which game are you guys playing, since you mentioned Super Smash Bros (which implies the n64 one), Brawl, and Wavedashing for the same tournament. Maybe I can help you out, since I enjoy playing Melee.
What is an angel? Show me an angel and I shall paint one
Enrique
Profile Blog Joined September 2005
United States377 Posts
January 23 2009 05:18 GMT
#9
That's often how I felt about SSB64; it's just a shame almost no one plays it anymore. Still, congrats I guess on making the nooblets respect.
~Inter Arma Enim Silent Leges~
emperorchampion
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada9496 Posts
January 23 2009 05:23 GMT
#10
wow double blog post?
TRUEESPORTS || your days as a respected member of team liquid are over
il0seonpurpose
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Korea (South)5638 Posts
January 23 2009 05:26 GMT
#11
Ah, hopefully you won't get an upset.
Polar_Nada
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States1548 Posts
January 23 2009 05:49 GMT
#12
On January 23 2009 13:44 malongo wrote:
iccup really hurt your ego man. peace.

agreed. i dont play on that much because of that reason >.>
[ReD]NaDa and fnaticMSI.SEn fighting~! ::POlar @ UC Irvine::
Heyoka
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Katowice25012 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-01-23 05:55:27
January 23 2009 05:53 GMT
#13
cool man have fun

looking forward to your blog about girls
@RealHeyoka | ESL / DreamHack StarCraft Lead
BottleAbuser
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
Korea (South)1888 Posts
January 23 2009 05:55 GMT
#14
cgrinker, you now are half way to being pro. The other half is to be able to look at every other opponent as a n00b. I am currently working on this myself.
Compilers are like boyfriends, you miss a period and they go crazy on you.
Ideas
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
United States8167 Posts
January 23 2009 06:14 GMT
#15
When you lose in the 1st round be sure to tell them that smash isn't a real game like SC is
Free Palestine
PH
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States6173 Posts
January 23 2009 06:28 GMT
#16
iccup is definitely demoralizing...not to mention for some reason it's harder to find D-/D games...T_T

All of us D-ish players are in the same boat as you...we're good enough to completely destroy anyone who doesn't frequent TL or isn't Korean, but we get our asses beaten to hamburger and then force-fed unwillingly into our bloodied mouths when we play anyone who does or is.

):
Hello
ffswowsucks
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
Greece2297 Posts
January 23 2009 08:29 GMT
#17
On January 23 2009 14:07 Yogurt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 23 2009 14:05 Straylight wrote:
Who the fuck still types "pwn" and "no0b". Grow up.


Who the fuck cares how people type on the internet? Grow up.

Because he fucking reads it anyway.
Terran in particular is a notoriously strong race for a no brain skillhand bot style.
Gustav_Wind
Profile Joined July 2008
United States646 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-01-23 08:50:20
January 23 2009 08:49 GMT
#18
Why Smashboards (Ick!)? What's wrong with Smashboards?

And you really don't sound like you know much about Smash at all. It doesn't necessarily take a "pro" or someone even near the top to beat someone who doesn't have much Smash experience.

Unless they really are all god-awful, i.e. only play with their friends, never heard of Smashboards or competitive play, etc.
RoieTRS
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States2569 Posts
January 23 2009 14:35 GMT
#19
On January 23 2009 15:28 PH wrote:
iccup is definitely demoralizing...not to mention for some reason it's harder to find D-/D games...T_T

All of us D-ish players are in the same boat as you...we're good enough to completely destroy anyone who doesn't frequent TL or isn't Korean, but we get our asses beaten to hamburger and then force-fed unwillingly into our bloodied mouths when we play anyone who does or is.

):


OUCH.
MY SELF-ESTEEEM.

The truth hurts.
konadora, in Racenilatr's blog: "you need to stop thinking about starcraft or anything computer-related for that matter. It's becoming a bad addiction imo"
HamerD
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United Kingdom1922 Posts
January 23 2009 15:27 GMT
#20
You are going to get cunted in the tourney mate
"Oh no, we've drawn Judge Schneider" "Is that bad?" "Well, he's had it in for me ever since I kinda ran over his dog" "You did?" "Yeah...if you replace the word *kinda* with *repeatedly*...and the word *dog* with son"
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