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On November 28 2008 18:17 kNyTTyM wrote:Show nested quote +On November 28 2008 16:54 Humbug wrote:This is a really long post, so I'm just going to put spoiler tags to avoid having people run into paragraphs of text. + Show Spoiler +After years and years of lurking on these forums, I think I have finally found a thread to make my first post in. (I'm really sorry for the long post, but WoW is something I am very passionate about)
To answer the first question, there isn't really such thing as a "WoW addiction", but rather a problem of really bad time management and setting priorities straight. That's about the gist of it, I wouldn't say it's a "drug" like so many people claim it to be (though, that's just my opinion on the "WoW addiction" thing).
For the next questions, a more general response: I used to play WoW, and a lot of it. The first time playing it was a wonderful experience, the world seemed so huge and absolutely fantastic and just drew me right in. Days turned into weeks, weeks into months, and before I knew it, I've been playing for close to a year and 6 months. Now the level cap was easy enough, getting from 1-70 was easy. Any player that truly knows the game will tell you that the real WoW starts at level 70. That's where all the bleeding edge raiding is done and PvP happens, if that's your thing.
I was one of the "bleeding edge raiders". (Raiding, if anyone is wondering, is pretty much going into a pre-generated dungeon with 24 other people (9 other people for the smaller ones) to take down bosses and most are reset on a weekly basis to give guilds a week's worth of possible raiding nights to finish the dungeon since they're so long). Now before the most recent summer, I was just kind of a casual raiding, playing whenever I could spare time. However, during the summer, that's when things REALLY kicked off. I got sick and tired and being in fairly newbish guilds and applied to a high end guild and was accepted. Now I went from raiding whenever I could spare time, to almost a job-like schedule of three hours a night, 5 days a week for the entire summer. And eventually, we were able to "beat" the game (as in, defeat the hardest boss).
To the topic at hand: Why the hell did I play so much? I'll be looking back on this way in the future and be thinking "God, I was a dumbass". I had to dig deep to find the answer, but I realized that I played because it made me feel like I was part of something greater than myself. Spending hours a week, not just for the benefit of myself, but for the benefit of my guild, for other people, a greater good. I felt like I was with a community, joined together with other people from around the U.S. (and a player from the U.K.) to overcome huge obstacles. I know you're probably thinking I'm an idiot for devoting huge amounts of time and effort to people on the internet, and that's okay, but being part of a raiding guild was such a great feeling to me. I was being completely unselfish and wanted to contribute to the "greater cause", even if it didn't really have bearing on my real life circumstances. Plus, it felt so good to take down a new boss encounter and celebrate with your guild mates.
People could say that why didn't you devote your time and effort then to a sports team or something. Well, sadly to admit, I guess I was a bit lazy. WoW was right there in front of me (and I'm not very good at sports anyways, just not naturally an athlete), and it was summer, so eh...
Furthermore, (yes, there is more, sorry) I also played because of the friends I made. I really enjoyed playing with the people in my guild and socializing (enjoyed just casually talking on ventrillo about anything and everything (though, you could do that IRL as well, but I'm a really shy person and don't make friends that easily in person...)).
Now with school and everything being pretty rough this year, I've decided to take a temporary hiatus from WoW. But, when things die down, I plan to join the game again.
*phew* That's just my (very long) two-cents, I hope it helped out in your search.
(Started typing at around XX:15, it's XX:54 now, lol) Ok I understand that the raiding and guild play was interesting, but what got you hooked originally? Like, what made you want to stick around until level 60 or 70? I played WoW until like level 15 and was bored of the world by then. Running from place to place tediously killing 10 or 15 of the same monster was extremely boring. Obviously there was more to explore, but I didn't feel like it was worth it to put in all that time to level up. So what was interesting in that period from 1-60(70)
Well it's understandable that grinding isn't really everyone's cake. The idea of killing X monsters for Y number of quests and bringing this to him/her can get extremely repetitious. I was able to keep my sanity partially because I was extremely interested in the Warcraft lore from the previous games (it was pretty cool to see all the stuff "in person"), and I especially enjoyed the game because I had someone to play with, my cousin. That made the game SO much better, since I had someone to share all my ZOMG moments with. The grind doesn't seem too bad when you're questing with a friend and doing the small dungeon runs with. Plus, you can go do battlegrounds with them, which adds an extra level of enjoyment since you know you have someone to back you up.
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Here's what I think about it. Spoiler so you guys can not read it if you like.
+ Show Spoiler +Well, the one thing that got me hooked onto WoW for around 8 months straight(longest period of time that I've played WoW) was the fact about getting more powerful.
I ran WoW on a 384mb ram computer for 2 years and leveling was a pain with such leveling. School, exams and finances got in the way for me to get a new computer so I just gave the game up altogether back then.
When I got a new PC earlier this year, I kept playing and playing because you could get things done and start getting into end-game content, which was something I had always wanted since the days when AQ40 was out.
But for me, I guess WoW didn't really last very long much after. I got into a raiding guild but it was very tiring to adjust my own real life schedule to meet the demands in WoW. It sounds kinda stupid.
I find the comparison between WoW and SC not valid because SC on average takes much, much less time. I've played SC much less than I've had WoW since I got into SC around last year. SC is also much better because I find that every game is different with different scenarios with different outcomes.
WoW on the other hand was so repatitive. All I did everyday was get into the dailies zone and farm the same quests everyday, get ganked by horde all the time and find the occasional admantine nodes around. The raids weren't even as fun as I had expected. To get into a high end raid guild, my gear had to be of a certain level and that would mean more raiding and committing more time. Raids are very time consuming and after a while, I just sat down and figured that hey WoW was fun but man it just gets old after a while. The end rewards seem really great but in the end you find that its not really worth it considering the time that you need to put into it. At least that's for me. Its so demeaning to spend so much time doing the same thing.
Last note, I find that one of the greatest things in WoW was the bonding and friendships made. In all my instances, I find that guildie mates and friends are great company and one of the great aspects in WoW. I think that Blizzard has done a good job in designing content that's suited for good communication and coordination that's one of the major attracting factors in the game. Its like knowing that there are probably 9 to 24 other people with you fighting out on some boss and the idea seemed really cool.
But well WoW days are over and I'm not getting back into it.
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the way I played WoW was that I loved being in that consistent world that was totally huge. I remember my first visit to Ironforge (a capital city) with the music blaring from the speakers and me realizing just how many players were on the server. Or the first time I rode a Hippogryph and seeing the world under me pass and realizing how huge the world was and how great the game looked (this was like 4 years ago).
I also loved playing with friends that I couldn't be with because I had moved to another city. A couple of months ago I even played for 2 months with my girlfriend, but we took a very very casual approach to the game, not getting past lvl 26 in two months (you can do that in 2 days or maybe even less if you know what you're doing).
I never got to level 60 (like I never got past lvl 82 in Diablo 2) but I made a lot of characters to see how they play, and I played both horde and alliance to see everything the game has to offer.
What also feels nice is that you're always making progress, be it in experience, loot or gold.
What breaks the game for me is the social aspect as I would like to enjoy it but I really don't. If you can get 4 other friends to play with you on a regular basis I think this game is the best game ever to have a great time (only counting rpgs, otherwise game like Rock Band are a great choice). I had a great time alone but with 5 people you can run instances which are great for getting nice loot, feeling like you're accomplishing something big and feeling like being part of something bigger than yourself like Humbug mentioned.
If you just get 1 or 2 people that you have fun with and there's only one person in your group of 5 that somehow spoils the fun (and people on the internet have so many ways of doing that) the game will be very frustrating.
Also what makes it difficult for me to really enjoy these games is that I either want to take a very naive approach (not knowing what will come next, to explore and adventure) or, once that isn't possible anymore a very professional approach (beating dungeons as fast as possible and leveling as effectively as possible). Most people either break the immersion that the game provides by making lame jokes or claiming loot before it has even dropped or are so "professional" that I can't keep up with them in level because I just can't devote so much time to the game (and there's little sense in playing with someone that is more that one level apart from you).
I still think that the best way to play is getting a number of friends (ideally 4) to play with you on one or two evenings a week for a couple of hours (4-6) and don't play that character in between. that way the money you spend (the monthly fee) is well invested and you'll maximise the fun you get out of the game.
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Valhalla18444 Posts
world of warcraft has an intensely vibrant universe, blizzard is really really good at creating storylines and turning those storylines into shit you do in-game
wow keeps people interested by offering a huge, HUGE variety in terms of what you can do with your time
and some people have nothing better to do than spend 14 hours a day playing a video game
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1584 Posts
The warcraft universe is great, it makes for such a great mmo storyline too since there's always some bad guy that is even stronger than the currently baddest guy.
Plus it's kinda epic to play raids with 25 other people.
It's really addicting though and I'm glad my account was banned so I got out of that shit.
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On November 28 2008 17:47 Energies wrote:Show nested quote +On November 28 2008 16:54 Humbug wrote:This is a really long post, so I'm just going to put spoiler tags to avoid having people run into paragraphs of text. + Show Spoiler +After years and years of lurking on these forums, I think I have finally found a thread to make my first post in. (I'm really sorry for the long post, but WoW is something I am very passionate about)
To answer the first question, there isn't really such thing as a "WoW addiction", but rather a problem of really bad time management and setting priorities straight. That's about the gist of it, I wouldn't say it's a "drug" like so many people claim it to be (though, that's just my opinion on the "WoW addiction" thing).
For the next questions, a more general response: I used to play WoW, and a lot of it. The first time playing it was a wonderful experience, the world seemed so huge and absolutely fantastic and just drew me right in. Days turned into weeks, weeks into months, and before I knew it, I've been playing for close to a year and 6 months. Now the level cap was easy enough, getting from 1-70 was easy. Any player that truly knows the game will tell you that the real WoW starts at level 70. That's where all the bleeding edge raiding is done and PvP happens, if that's your thing.
I was one of the "bleeding edge raiders". (Raiding, if anyone is wondering, is pretty much going into a pre-generated dungeon with 24 other people (9 other people for the smaller ones) to take down bosses and most are reset on a weekly basis to give guilds a week's worth of possible raiding nights to finish the dungeon since they're so long). Now before the most recent summer, I was just kind of a casual raiding, playing whenever I could spare time. However, during the summer, that's when things REALLY kicked off. I got sick and tired and being in fairly newbish guilds and applied to a high end guild and was accepted. Now I went from raiding whenever I could spare time, to almost a job-like schedule of three hours a night, 5 days a week for the entire summer. And eventually, we were able to "beat" the game (as in, defeat the hardest boss).
To the topic at hand: Why the hell did I play so much? I'll be looking back on this way in the future and be thinking "God, I was a dumbass". I had to dig deep to find the answer, but I realized that I played because it made me feel like I was part of something greater than myself. Spending hours a week, not just for the benefit of myself, but for the benefit of my guild, for other people, a greater good. I felt like I was with a community, joined together with other people from around the U.S. (and a player from the U.K.) to overcome huge obstacles. I know you're probably thinking I'm an idiot for devoting huge amounts of time and effort to people on the internet, and that's okay, but being part of a raiding guild was such a great feeling to me. I was being completely unselfish and wanted to contribute to the "greater cause", even if it didn't really have bearing on my real life circumstances. Plus, it felt so good to take down a new boss encounter and celebrate with your guild mates.
People could say that why didn't you devote your time and effort then to a sports team or something. Well, sadly to admit, I guess I was a bit lazy. WoW was right there in front of me (and I'm not very good at sports anyways, just not naturally an athlete), and it was summer, so eh...
Furthermore, (yes, there is more, sorry) I also played because of the friends I made. I really enjoyed playing with the people in my guild and socializing (enjoyed just casually talking on ventrillo about anything and everything (though, you could do that IRL as well, but I'm a really shy person and don't make friends that easily in person...)).
Now with school and everything being pretty rough this year, I've decided to take a temporary hiatus from WoW. But, when things die down, I plan to join the game again.
*phew* That's just my (very long) two-cents, I hope it helped out in your search.
(Started typing at around XX:15, it's XX:54 now, lol) Pretty much this. For me, it was and would still be if I logged in, such an amazing feeling of awe that comes over you, when you realise just how big the game is around you. For you to be able to explore everything, does quite literally takes months upon months. And the game has been made so beautifully that you sort of want to explore everything and experience everything. Beating a computer in Starcraft, you feel no sense of real achievement, but in WoW it rewards you by making you stronger and giving you better equipment for doing so. Progression and self betterment (if that is a real word) is the drug that is WoW that keeps you wanting more, bigger, better.
WTF? So your saying wooping somebody's ass on Iccup doesn't make you feel better? So achieving D+/C-/C or higher ranks doesn't give a feeling of satisfaction?
Listen, a problem with people who play WOW is that they think it's the best shit ever. No it's not, everyone would be playing if it was. So please, play some more starcraft and you'll see why not only I but other people in tl.net like it too.
Edit: Besides, why are you playing with computers anyway lol?
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Netherlands19135 Posts
I played it for a little over a year with RL friends and had a blast then it became just more of the same. Played Burning Crusade abit again but didnt have the same feel to it so quit again.
All in all had alot of fun with it but it gets old.
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Its really fun playing with RL friends. Its fun while it lasted but in the end people just start quitting and slowly everyone leaves the game.
Also ganking back then and real world PvP was probably the funnest part.
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This isn't really true, people who get addicted to wow already play games all day and then blame their shitty life on wow, it's rediculous.
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On November 28 2008 23:33 ilistis wrote:Show nested quote +On November 28 2008 17:47 Energies wrote:On November 28 2008 16:54 Humbug wrote:This is a really long post, so I'm just going to put spoiler tags to avoid having people run into paragraphs of text. + Show Spoiler +After years and years of lurking on these forums, I think I have finally found a thread to make my first post in. (I'm really sorry for the long post, but WoW is something I am very passionate about)
To answer the first question, there isn't really such thing as a "WoW addiction", but rather a problem of really bad time management and setting priorities straight. That's about the gist of it, I wouldn't say it's a "drug" like so many people claim it to be (though, that's just my opinion on the "WoW addiction" thing).
For the next questions, a more general response: I used to play WoW, and a lot of it. The first time playing it was a wonderful experience, the world seemed so huge and absolutely fantastic and just drew me right in. Days turned into weeks, weeks into months, and before I knew it, I've been playing for close to a year and 6 months. Now the level cap was easy enough, getting from 1-70 was easy. Any player that truly knows the game will tell you that the real WoW starts at level 70. That's where all the bleeding edge raiding is done and PvP happens, if that's your thing.
I was one of the "bleeding edge raiders". (Raiding, if anyone is wondering, is pretty much going into a pre-generated dungeon with 24 other people (9 other people for the smaller ones) to take down bosses and most are reset on a weekly basis to give guilds a week's worth of possible raiding nights to finish the dungeon since they're so long). Now before the most recent summer, I was just kind of a casual raiding, playing whenever I could spare time. However, during the summer, that's when things REALLY kicked off. I got sick and tired and being in fairly newbish guilds and applied to a high end guild and was accepted. Now I went from raiding whenever I could spare time, to almost a job-like schedule of three hours a night, 5 days a week for the entire summer. And eventually, we were able to "beat" the game (as in, defeat the hardest boss).
To the topic at hand: Why the hell did I play so much? I'll be looking back on this way in the future and be thinking "God, I was a dumbass". I had to dig deep to find the answer, but I realized that I played because it made me feel like I was part of something greater than myself. Spending hours a week, not just for the benefit of myself, but for the benefit of my guild, for other people, a greater good. I felt like I was with a community, joined together with other people from around the U.S. (and a player from the U.K.) to overcome huge obstacles. I know you're probably thinking I'm an idiot for devoting huge amounts of time and effort to people on the internet, and that's okay, but being part of a raiding guild was such a great feeling to me. I was being completely unselfish and wanted to contribute to the "greater cause", even if it didn't really have bearing on my real life circumstances. Plus, it felt so good to take down a new boss encounter and celebrate with your guild mates.
People could say that why didn't you devote your time and effort then to a sports team or something. Well, sadly to admit, I guess I was a bit lazy. WoW was right there in front of me (and I'm not very good at sports anyways, just not naturally an athlete), and it was summer, so eh...
Furthermore, (yes, there is more, sorry) I also played because of the friends I made. I really enjoyed playing with the people in my guild and socializing (enjoyed just casually talking on ventrillo about anything and everything (though, you could do that IRL as well, but I'm a really shy person and don't make friends that easily in person...)).
Now with school and everything being pretty rough this year, I've decided to take a temporary hiatus from WoW. But, when things die down, I plan to join the game again.
*phew* That's just my (very long) two-cents, I hope it helped out in your search.
(Started typing at around XX:15, it's XX:54 now, lol) Pretty much this. For me, it was and would still be if I logged in, such an amazing feeling of awe that comes over you, when you realise just how big the game is around you. For you to be able to explore everything, does quite literally takes months upon months. And the game has been made so beautifully that you sort of want to explore everything and experience everything. Beating a computer in Starcraft, you feel no sense of real achievement, but in WoW it rewards you by making you stronger and giving you better equipment for doing so. Progression and self betterment (if that is a real word) is the drug that is WoW that keeps you wanting more, bigger, better. WTF? So your saying wooping somebody's ass on Iccup doesn't make you feel better? So achieving D+/C-/C or higher ranks doesn't give a feeling of satisfaction? Listen, a problem with people who play WOW is that they think it's the best shit ever. No it's not, everyone would be playing if it was. So please, play some more starcraft and you'll see why not only I but other people in tl.net like it too. Edit: Besides, why are you playing with computers anyway lol?
I'm not saying wow is the best game ever, but your reasoning is stupid since there are so much more people that put time into warcraft than there are people who actively play starcraft. there are 11 million subscribers for Wow. so yes, most everyone is playing.
And believe it or not, Energies loves starcraft, he was a referee at the WCG.
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On November 29 2008 00:06 mel_ee wrote:
Its really fun playing with RL friends. Its fun while it lasted but in the end people just start quitting and slowly everyone leaves the game.
Also ganking back then and real world PvP was probably the funnest part.
Agree with this. The only times I played were with a bunch of people I knew. Which leads me to playing only oh 2-3 months and then taking longer breaks
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From what I have experienced, you don't get WoW addict really, the game doesn't get that fun once you hit the maximum level. But you get "epic" addict, you know those purple items that you get in alte game? The people you talk of, the ones spending countless hours in their guild, just try to organize a 25people vs computer fight to gather more of these purple items. Thats pretty what PvE WoW is.
Some more people can play in the battlegrounds, or arena, then it comes down to PvP. This part of the game is really fun to me, WoW 2v2 and 3v3 is very intense at high level. There is an official ladder, so it can be tempting to break top 25 or something, like on iccup. That can also make people addict.
What I stated above also make alot of people to quit, all my friends and I left WoW because we felt it was a waste of time to fight the computer boss for 3hours every monday night just to get a chance to have those purple pixels... (the bosses are very fun to fight, don,t get me wrong, but it takes way too long to do a full run)
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I agree with humbug so much. The fact that most of my friends are really stuck inside their house, they simply resort to games in general. Then some poor beings resorted to RPGs. RPGs are extremely hard to stop playing, especially if there is nothing better to do. The good thing is that the change of heart when they quit usually makes them dislike RPGs as a whole, or at least strong motivation to quit that specific one.
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On November 29 2008 01:09 distant_voice wrote:Show nested quote +On November 28 2008 23:33 ilistis wrote:On November 28 2008 17:47 Energies wrote:On November 28 2008 16:54 Humbug wrote:This is a really long post, so I'm just going to put spoiler tags to avoid having people run into paragraphs of text. + Show Spoiler +After years and years of lurking on these forums, I think I have finally found a thread to make my first post in. (I'm really sorry for the long post, but WoW is something I am very passionate about)
To answer the first question, there isn't really such thing as a "WoW addiction", but rather a problem of really bad time management and setting priorities straight. That's about the gist of it, I wouldn't say it's a "drug" like so many people claim it to be (though, that's just my opinion on the "WoW addiction" thing).
For the next questions, a more general response: I used to play WoW, and a lot of it. The first time playing it was a wonderful experience, the world seemed so huge and absolutely fantastic and just drew me right in. Days turned into weeks, weeks into months, and before I knew it, I've been playing for close to a year and 6 months. Now the level cap was easy enough, getting from 1-70 was easy. Any player that truly knows the game will tell you that the real WoW starts at level 70. That's where all the bleeding edge raiding is done and PvP happens, if that's your thing.
I was one of the "bleeding edge raiders". (Raiding, if anyone is wondering, is pretty much going into a pre-generated dungeon with 24 other people (9 other people for the smaller ones) to take down bosses and most are reset on a weekly basis to give guilds a week's worth of possible raiding nights to finish the dungeon since they're so long). Now before the most recent summer, I was just kind of a casual raiding, playing whenever I could spare time. However, during the summer, that's when things REALLY kicked off. I got sick and tired and being in fairly newbish guilds and applied to a high end guild and was accepted. Now I went from raiding whenever I could spare time, to almost a job-like schedule of three hours a night, 5 days a week for the entire summer. And eventually, we were able to "beat" the game (as in, defeat the hardest boss).
To the topic at hand: Why the hell did I play so much? I'll be looking back on this way in the future and be thinking "God, I was a dumbass". I had to dig deep to find the answer, but I realized that I played because it made me feel like I was part of something greater than myself. Spending hours a week, not just for the benefit of myself, but for the benefit of my guild, for other people, a greater good. I felt like I was with a community, joined together with other people from around the U.S. (and a player from the U.K.) to overcome huge obstacles. I know you're probably thinking I'm an idiot for devoting huge amounts of time and effort to people on the internet, and that's okay, but being part of a raiding guild was such a great feeling to me. I was being completely unselfish and wanted to contribute to the "greater cause", even if it didn't really have bearing on my real life circumstances. Plus, it felt so good to take down a new boss encounter and celebrate with your guild mates.
People could say that why didn't you devote your time and effort then to a sports team or something. Well, sadly to admit, I guess I was a bit lazy. WoW was right there in front of me (and I'm not very good at sports anyways, just not naturally an athlete), and it was summer, so eh...
Furthermore, (yes, there is more, sorry) I also played because of the friends I made. I really enjoyed playing with the people in my guild and socializing (enjoyed just casually talking on ventrillo about anything and everything (though, you could do that IRL as well, but I'm a really shy person and don't make friends that easily in person...)).
Now with school and everything being pretty rough this year, I've decided to take a temporary hiatus from WoW. But, when things die down, I plan to join the game again.
*phew* That's just my (very long) two-cents, I hope it helped out in your search.
(Started typing at around XX:15, it's XX:54 now, lol) Pretty much this. For me, it was and would still be if I logged in, such an amazing feeling of awe that comes over you, when you realise just how big the game is around you. For you to be able to explore everything, does quite literally takes months upon months. And the game has been made so beautifully that you sort of want to explore everything and experience everything. Beating a computer in Starcraft, you feel no sense of real achievement, but in WoW it rewards you by making you stronger and giving you better equipment for doing so. Progression and self betterment (if that is a real word) is the drug that is WoW that keeps you wanting more, bigger, better. WTF? So your saying wooping somebody's ass on Iccup doesn't make you feel better? So achieving D+/C-/C or higher ranks doesn't give a feeling of satisfaction? Listen, a problem with people who play WOW is that they think it's the best shit ever. No it's not, everyone would be playing if it was. So please, play some more starcraft and you'll see why not only I but other people in tl.net like it too. Edit: Besides, why are you playing with computers anyway lol? I'm not saying wow is the best game ever, but your reasoning is stupid since there are so much more people that put time into warcraft than there are people who actively play starcraft. there are 11 million subscribers for Wow. so yes, most everyone is playing. And believe it or not, Energies loves starcraft, he was a referee at the WCG.
lol mostly EVERYONE? Trust me there are other mmorpgs that other people play. Maybe not as much as 11 million but still.
Besides, I wasn't comparing how many people actively play starcraft compared to WOW.. The game is 10 years old and people are still playing.
I was just saying that your playing with computers.Computer? Go on b.net at least and I'll say it again. People get hooked so badly on WOW that most of their time, that's what they're playing and every other games is shit.
Edit: Check out the cracked article on WOW , I'm sure that'll make you mad.  And check out the comments too, your WOW buddies are defeding their game. lol...
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On November 29 2008 01:22 ilistis wrote:People get hooked so badly on WOW that most of their time, that's what they're playing and every other games is shit. Edit: Check out the cracked article on WOW , I'm sure that'll make you mad. And check out the comments too, your WOW buddies are defeding their game. lol...
funny how you say people defending WoW are pathetic on a forum where everyone is defending starcaft as if they are working for blizzard.
Face it, WoW is a fucking great game made by a fucking great company. you wonder why it's so popular? well, for the same reason as starcraft and diablo are still popular after more than 10 years: they are ones of the best games ever made. just because YOU don't like WoW doesn't mean it's a shitty game. I'm not crazy about starcraft but I understand that people plays it alot because they find it the best game they can waste hours on.
and why there are people thinking that wow=shitty game because it makes people addict? Is smoking weed the worst thing ever because it makes people addict?
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On November 29 2008 01:53 Xela wrote:Show nested quote +On November 29 2008 01:22 ilistis wrote:People get hooked so badly on WOW that most of their time, that's what they're playing and every other games is shit. Edit: Check out the cracked article on WOW , I'm sure that'll make you mad. And check out the comments too, your WOW buddies are defeding their game. lol... funny how you say people defending WoW are pathetic on a forum where everyone is defending starcaft as if they are working for blizzard. Face it, WoW is a fucking great game made by a fucking great company. you wonder why it's so popular? well, for the same reason as starcraft and diablo are still popular after more than 10 years: they are ones of the best games ever made. just because YOU don't like WoW doesn't mean it's a shitty game. I'm not crazy about starcraft but I understand that people plays it alot because they find it the best game they can waste hours on. and why there are people thinking that wow=shitty game because it makes people addict? Is smoking weed the worst thing ever because it makes people addict?
I never said it wasn't a good game and I never said I didn't like it. What I hate is that you people who play WOW get so defensive. I probably can't even mention another mmorpg with out you fanatics saying" wow is teh best or that game sucks..because it's not wow".
I didn't even say it was bad and your being defensive lol.
edit:Oh and your setting yourself in a bad position. Weed is BAD because it has negative effects on the body of the person and yes addiction is bad.
People do get addicted to wow and that's pretty bad. The most extreme cases have been where people have actually died because they didn't eat while playing wow.Not eating? Ok, but not everybody plays that much to the point where they die.
There probably are people who play casually but most people are addicted.
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On November 28 2008 15:54 Jonoman92 wrote:
Ok, sorry for that horrid title. It's a very bad pun.
So I'm wondering what exactly it is that draws so many people to become WOW addicts. How can logical, self-respecting people band together with other people and take pride and dignity in simply killing AI created stuff.
If I'm not mistaken most hardcore WOW'ers spend their time in guilds completing quests and doing instances (after playing WOW for a week I did finally learn what an instance was.)
I mean, during my 10 day free trial I enjoyed exploring and leveling up to level 20 (the max level allowed as trial) but I don't get what the draw is to band together and to just keep owning the new levels or w/e you wanna call them that blizz keeps creating to keep the WOW subscribers entertained.
Any current/past players or people who understand this want to offer their views? I mean there is the explanation that they are all huge losers who don't want to spend their time doing anything in real life so they spend it in a fantasy world. However, being a huge sc nerd myself and spending hours upon hours on this I don't claim the above reason to be why I play sc, so I don't want to jump to conclusions and label all avid WOW players as lifeless escapists (even if it's true!)
The real game starts on maxlvl. From a WoW-Player point of view you didn't see anything from the game yet.
IMHO (c)(tm)
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Contrary to most other people here, I actually preferred the leveling from 1 to 60 portion over the raiding portion at level 60.
I think part of that feeling is because I played when the game first launched, and there was always a lot of people everywhere around me. By contrast, if you level to 60 now, all the lower level areas are probably relatively barren because everyone is doing raids and instances.
The epic aspect of big raids taking down the final bosses was pretty satisfying too, but after the first time you kill a boss, it just becomes a grind again. That's why I stopped playing.
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On November 29 2008 03:21 ilistis wrote:Show nested quote +On November 29 2008 01:53 Xela wrote:On November 29 2008 01:22 ilistis wrote:People get hooked so badly on WOW that most of their time, that's what they're playing and every other games is shit. Edit: Check out the cracked article on WOW , I'm sure that'll make you mad. And check out the comments too, your WOW buddies are defeding their game. lol... funny how you say people defending WoW are pathetic on a forum where everyone is defending starcaft as if they are working for blizzard. Face it, WoW is a fucking great game made by a fucking great company. you wonder why it's so popular? well, for the same reason as starcraft and diablo are still popular after more than 10 years: they are ones of the best games ever made. just because YOU don't like WoW doesn't mean it's a shitty game. I'm not crazy about starcraft but I understand that people plays it alot because they find it the best game they can waste hours on. and why there are people thinking that wow=shitty game because it makes people addict? Is smoking weed the worst thing ever because it makes people addict? I never said it wasn't a good game and I never said I didn't like it. What I hate is that you people who play WOW get so defensive. I probably can't even mention another mmorpg with out you fanatics saying" wow is teh best or that game sucks..because it's not wow". I didn't even say it was bad and your being defensive lol. edit:Oh and your setting yourself in a bad position. Weed is BAD because it has negative effects on the body of the person and yes addiction is bad. People do get addicted to wow and that's pretty bad. The most extreme cases have been where people have actually died because they didn't eat while playing wow.Not eating? Ok, but not everybody plays that much to the point where they die. There probably are people who play casually but most people are addicted.
It's only natural for any gamer to get defensive when people are bashing the game that they play. If someone said "Games like Starcraft are so stupid, why do people play Starcraft?", I'm sure you'd be a little bit offended too.
In general, your posts have a very confrontational attitude, and it seems that you have some unwarranted anger toward WOW players. Why does it matter to you if some people think WOW is the greatest shit ever? There is no absolute scale with which you measure the goodness of a game. It's purely a matter of opinion.
Also, weed actually isn't really all that bad for you. The most harmful aspect of weed is the actual act of smoking, which negatively affects your lungs. But even that can be avoided by using other methods of consumption, such as vaporization or just baking it into foods and eating the food.
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it doesnt take skill but takes time so both skilled and unskilled people can play it and think they are hot shit. then there are "guilds" which are like support groups and off they go all together on a LOTResque mission to just do something. teamwork makes people feel wanted etc etc.
just a big flashy support group thing. same as religion which is also a big support group thing. im not saying wow is a religion, im saying you get the same feeling of being wanted and being valuable.
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