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Klockan3
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
Sweden2866 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-11-25 09:19:28
November 25 2008 09:18 GMT
#21
Yeah, many can describe feelings using many words, only the masters can describe feelings with a minimum of words.

As an exercise try to write the same piece using roughly half the words, it will get a bit dryer but if you do it correctly and keep the parts you find the most important it wont get completely dry.
KlaCkoN
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Sweden1661 Posts
November 25 2008 13:46 GMT
#22
You can't say that "Masters describe feelings with a minimum of words". You just can't.
Sure some of them did but far from everyone.
This is a perfectly legit style, and I for one, enjoy it.
When people just state "You use too many flowery words" please don't just accept that. Think about what you want to convey, and the method you want to use for doing so.
Of course your work can be improved upon but not via "recuding the amount of adjectives". That's not improving, that's changing the very fundamentals.
Read Jane Eyre (if you can stand the story lol) for inspiration.
Again: I liked this
"Voice or no voice the people can always be brought to the bidding of their leaders ... All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger."
Cambium
Profile Blog Joined June 2004
United States16368 Posts
November 25 2008 14:10 GMT
#23
Just wondering, is this a high school short story? It reminds me a great deal of a short story that I had to write in Grade 11.

I don't know if you removed your adjectives in your edit(s), but currently, I don't find it superfluous. I mean, this IS a short story, adjectives are necessary and expected.
When you want something, all the universe conspires in helping you to achieve it.
Klockan3
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
Sweden2866 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-11-25 15:30:58
November 25 2008 15:26 GMT
#24
On November 25 2008 22:46 KlaCkoN wrote:
You can't say that "Masters describe feelings with a minimum of words". You just can't.
Sure some of them did but far from everyone.
This is a perfectly legit style, and I for one, enjoy it.
When people just state "You use too many flowery words" please don't just accept that. Think about what you want to convey, and the method you want to use for doing so.
Of course your work can be improved upon but not via "recuding the amount of adjectives". That's not improving, that's changing the very fundamentals.
Read Jane Eyre (if you can stand the story lol) for inspiration.
Again: I liked this

Yes you can like it, but writing like that is not that uncommon at all. And I did not say "Reduce the amount of adjectives" I said "Reduce the amount of words".

It works, sure, but he wants advice, and to me it seems like he have a hard time writing condensed and instead just rolls out everything he can. Also I did not say that it would get better if he wrote it with half the words, but that it would be a good exercise.

And your first point is correct of course, but it is not a contradiction of what I said. And in the end I just mean that this style is to writing as slicing is to golf. Do it but don't overdo it unless you know exactly what you are doing.

If its an assignment he could easily turn it in and get a good grade, but he never mentioned anything about that so I thought that he just wanted comments on his general writing style.
Chef
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
10810 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-11-25 15:59:06
November 25 2008 15:47 GMT
#25
She can turn into a unibrow at will? I don't know if that's attractive, but it sure is talented.

+ Show Spoiler +
She frowned, joined her eyebrows in worry.


Seriously though, this is right at the very beginning of your little work of prose, and this is setting the desire of the reader to enjoy your work immediately in a bad way. It's not only grammatically unsound, it also doesn't make any sense, and sounds kind of dumb. Frowning isn't something people do when they're worried, it's something they do when they're mad or sad. When someone is worried, they pull their cheek muscles back and bear a bit of teeth. And I don't know anyone in the world who can 'join' their eyebrows... not without surgery, or pushing them together with their fingers... Neither of which people do with their fingers. Maybe the word you were looking for was lifted slightly? That's generally the expression of helplessness, and it works with worry in a good way.

Other than that... TBH I found the story uninteresting, and I didn't get attached to the lead character at all. Maybe the story will be enjoyable for you, and the girl you wrote it about, because you both already know and are attached to the main character, but for someone who doesn't... It's just meek and meaningless. We know she feels bad about her grade, but we don't know why it has such significance to her. Will her parents be disappointed? Did she need the grades for her application? Is she just a perfectionist who's going to beat herself up? We don't get any of her internal dialogue or background... It's boring. It's like "oh... shitty." When some random tells you they got a bad mark on a test. I don't give a fuck, I did great :D
LEGEND!! LEGEND!!
jellyfish
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States149 Posts
November 25 2008 15:54 GMT
#26
Ahhh I see the redundancies now...thanks for pointing them out. Whenever I get feedback I do always get both criticisms and compliments about my flowery style...sadly I have to admit that when it's overdone it just falls flat on its face I can definitely see why those who are sensitive against this kind of style would say it's full of unnecessary words.
Again, thanks all for the feedback; it was quite helpful. I'll put this feedback to use, and if I end up writing something I think is an improvement I'll be back for help again. ^^
ahrara_
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
Afghanistan1715 Posts
November 25 2008 20:16 GMT
#27
bad writing is bad writing. no style about it. you're not a bad writer, just please don't disguise shortcomings as "style". you're wayyy too inexperienced to be able to use that word authentically.
in Afghanistan we have 20% literacy rate
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