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That guy does sound sick... I will have to check out that rep O_O
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Nice to see old gamers getting back to play 
I still remember a game against you some years ago (maybe 2003 or 2004, i don't really know). It was one of the first tournaments i played and i got to play against you in round 1. I was very bad back then and got pretty exicted to play someone known like you.
So the game started TvZ on blue storm and i somehow managed to bunker rush you and kill your natural expansion. Really happy that i was in such a good position the game went on and you came back with lurker drops and mass ultras later on. :D
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Nice to see you playing again!
40-7 after a long time...Goddamn :O
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blue storm wasn't out until like 2007  do you mean blade storm ?
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oh lol yeah, blade storm^^
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you still own, nice play Twisted
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thanks for the pack Twisted.
really cool of you and good luck with ICCuping! :D
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I watched that replay, it seems if you didn't attack but just waited you coulda won because he didnt take a third and made 11 gates off 2 bases. He also didnt use storm so maybe just lurk containing while stalling to outmass him lategame could work. His macro was very good though.
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Canada9720 Posts
wow, that toss went almost entirely pure goon / zlot
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It looks like he stops building probes when he gets to about 2.5 per patch. Obviously premeditated all-in, because he did not expect to need to transfer probes later. 2.5 is pretty much ideal, although 3 would be completely saturated, your gains aren't increased very much at this number.
A very smart player, to be sure. Not many people think about this. This is what enabled him to spend so much money on army.
EDIT: He got EXACTLY 50 probes :O 16 patches plus 3 probes per geyser, 42/16 :O Hummmm... lol.
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Cool blog, thanks for the rep pack. I always thought that you were way too godly to quit sc.. I guess this kinda proves it if you are inactive for like 2-3 years and still easily go 40-7
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Hm.. yeah I hsouldn't have attacked with the 6 lurker + 36 ling, but I underestimated his army and wanted to stop his third expand.
I'm pretty sure he was just dicking around playing without temps and without expanding actually. Just wanted to kill me quickly by making a SHITload of units haha.
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I don't care if he was dicking around, I'm copying it It's like one base mentality with fast expand.
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Your games are very entertaining, i like your zvp .
Also holy fuck @ that protoss, he made like 50 cannons and literally made mass zeal/goon and a-moved your army constantly.. (he actually a-moved, he had no storm)
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Canada9720 Posts
yeah he was def messing around. i'd like to see some serious games from that toss
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wtf @ that protoss! he didnt even ATTEMPT to make a 3rd.. wow. im so trying that out too.
EDIT: no storm either.. :o
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yeah i was just about to say...
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United States24745 Posts
Even though you probably have been scraping off the rust, your old style might give you a bit of an advantage at times since everybody nowadays is all mechanics and used to responding to the exact same styles of play (if you weren't a thinking player then I guess that wouldn't ring true since you would have even more trouble adapting to the new style; It's very interesting that you find the new style much easier to play against though, at least in some respects).
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ah, I just fel compelled to yell out how I lost the past 8 games due to cheese on iccup.
So when i finally got tired of it, I said heck 4 pool his ass.
I didn't know 4 pool don't work against 8/9 gate because he scouts diagonally so even with my drone scout, I end up going to the wrong place.
We need to start a compendium of like what cheese beats what.
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Inactive for 3 years and still going 40-7 wow 
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Same here
I love old school players! :D...which is why having Insane play was so much fun for me during TL vs. SC2GG.
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On November 18 2008 11:21 thedeadhaji wrote:for some reason it makes me happy to hear you're enjoying your foray into the game
Haji how does your post count keep going down? T_T
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msged you for game today but you ignored me
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I don't understand that replay; how did he win without making a single HT, DT or archon while making fifteen cannons before the 9min mark?
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On November 18 2008 12:18 Salv wrote:
I don't understand that replay; how did he win without making a single HT, DT or archon while making fifteen cannons before the 9min mark?
to be honest, i suspect him of hacking... T_T, though i dont know how or where to accuse.
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He did reserach storm and did make 2 ht booth stayed at home gaurding the main and expo,though they were never used neat game.
Thank you twisted ^_^/")
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He scouted and countered your zergling runby strategy and got a huge early game macro advantage.
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I dont know if this means anything, but the protoss had 6 less probes than you had drones, yet he mined 50% more minerals than you...
but maybe its because most of your drones are sacrificed when morphing into a building? \-(o.O)-/ *shrugs*. I just find it odd though, how 2 bases with just 60 probes can support 11 gates + upgrades. Usually with 2 bases I can only produce 8 gates, but then again I am a terrible player >.<.
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I don't understand... his expo is a little delayed in the first place cuz he built 3 cannons, then he built shit loads of unnecessary cannons, then he doesn't use Templar... this is all off 1 expo... how is he running twisted over so easily. I felt like i was in the twilight zone watching that... is he using some kind of new subtle hack where every probe bring back 9 minerals instead of 8???
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On November 18 2008 12:58 Glider wrote:
I don't understand... his expo is a little delayed in the first place cuz he built 3 cannons, then he built shit loads of unnecessary cannons, then he doesn't use Templar... this is all off 1 expo... how is he running twisted over so easily. I felt like i was in the twilight zone watching that... is he using some kind of new subtle hack where every probe bring back 9 minerals instead of 8???
You can macro off that many gates with 50 probes. He doesn't even start using his gates until they're all built... There's like 4 idle ones while he's building up his tech lol.
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On November 18 2008 12:51 p4fn2w wrote:
I dont know if this means anything, but the protoss had 6 less probes than you had drones, yet he mined 50% more minerals than you...
but maybe its because most of your drones are sacrificed when morphing into a building? \-(o.O)-/ *shrugs*. I just find it odd though, how 2 bases with just 60 probes can support 11 gates + upgrades. Usually with 2 bases I can only produce 8 gates, but then again I am a terrible player >.<.
You're also trying to build more probes, and Nexuses (which need addition cannon protection) and teching up to arbs or something ridiculous. He's able to get the upgrades because he's not building high templar. He's also not building units while he's getting his gateways up, so he's not spending money on additional gateways as well. You also probably don't have as many probes as you think you do, because this guy lost none, while I wouldn't be surprised if you drop a lot in a typical ZvP.
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On November 18 2008 11:59 zulu_nation8 wrote:
msged you for game today but you ignored me
I had starcraft on the entire evening but I was playing poker/doing other stuff during most of it. I didn't ignore you lol, I just wasn't there.
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Just watched the replays rofl tempest jr.
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Look at the game details. Looks like they loaded from a save game and played for 10-15 seconds every time?
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Dude, like......the ending when he swarmed you i swear....that was like a oceans wave of zealots just a-moved at you D:....
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Wow, you're amazing Twisted
I'd kill for C+, it's just too hard to reach 
And the guy who's 70-4..I think he's a progamer or a B-team member. No doubt. Was he Korean?
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Canada9720 Posts
On November 18 2008 12:22 YPang wrote:Show nested quote +On November 18 2008 12:18 Salv wrote:
I don't understand that replay; how did he win without making a single HT, DT or archon while making fifteen cannons before the 9min mark? to be honest, i suspect him of hacking... T_T, though i dont know how or where to accuse.
no he just has good timing and really really good macro. if he had played straight-up it would've been quicker rape (no offence twisted)
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That's definitely a progamer useing a second account to boost the main ID higher. It's super common.
Watching that replay blew my mind, new faggy strat to add.
To the people that think he hacks rofl just watch the replay and understand what's happening. If he was useing a crazy mineral hack he wouldn't have been at 70 psi at 10 min ==
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Wow thanks a lot Twisted! You should keep playing. I remember a few years ago you and midian were my favorite Zergs to watch.
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That FAG protoss you played is a freakin dischacking map rigging faggot I won him pretty easy with lurk contain he couldnt break cz I knew his mass zealot strat anyways, note to everyone dont play the fag, he riggs maps. And LOL @ those who think he's a progamer or atleast close to his level hahaha...
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On November 18 2008 15:52 T.Sqd)LillTT wrote:That FAG protoss you played is a freakin dischacking map rigging faggot I won him pretty easy with lurk contain he couldnt break cz I knew his mass zealot strat anyways, note to everyone dont play the fag, he riggs maps. And LOL @ those who think he's a progamer or atleast close to his level hahaha...
okay...?
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Im talking about the one Twisted posted replays of playing against
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On November 18 2008 09:27 Twisted wrote:
General opinion
So it's been fun playing some Starcraft again after a 3year hiatus. I've made C+ in a few days
Hiatus? Define hiatus. its not like you didnt play at all during 3 years and made it to C+ in a few days...nobody can do that. the level of SC gaming now has nothing to do with what it was 3 years ago. you must have gamed a lot during that 'hiatus'
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On November 18 2008 17:30 TheFlashyOne wrote:Show nested quote +On November 18 2008 09:27 Twisted wrote:
General opinion
So it's been fun playing some Starcraft again after a 3year hiatus. I've made C+ in a few days Hiatus? Define hiatus. its not like you didnt play at all during 3 years and made it to C+ in a few days...nobody can do that. the level of SC gaming now has nothing to do with what it was 3 years ago. you must have gamed a lot during that 'hiatus'
hey quit dodging r-evo
also, you really gonna question twisted's skill, considering he's a tawt?
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On November 18 2008 17:43 TheFlashyOne wrote:
considering the second part of my response addressed your question, go fuck yourself
thank you
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On November 18 2008 17:43 TheFlashyOne wrote:
haha
dodge.
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That's some impressive abuse. 11 second games from D to A, with a 100-0 record at 10500 A rank LOL
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Sweden33719 Posts
On November 18 2008 17:30 TheFlashyOne wrote:Show nested quote +On November 18 2008 09:27 Twisted wrote:
General opinion
So it's been fun playing some Starcraft again after a 3year hiatus. I've made C+ in a few days Hiatus? Define hiatus. its not like you didnt play at all during 3 years and made it to C+ in a few days...nobody can do that. the level of SC gaming now has nothing to do with what it was 3 years ago. you must have gamed a lot during that 'hiatus'
Lol making C+ now isn't gonna be that hard if you were high A level 3 years ago I'm pretty sure -_-
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Netherlands13554 Posts
On November 18 2008 17:30 TheFlashyOne wrote:Show nested quote +On November 18 2008 09:27 Twisted wrote:
General opinion
So it's been fun playing some Starcraft again after a 3year hiatus. I've made C+ in a few days Hiatus? Define hiatus. its not like you didnt play at all during 3 years and made it to C+ in a few days...nobody can do that. the level of SC gaming now has nothing to do with what it was 3 years ago. you must have gamed a lot during that 'hiatus'
Ok I admit, I played 32 games on iccup in april when I heard about Netherlands having a WCG. Then I found out that I would be on vacation when the Dutch qualifications were so I quit again.
That's all apart from maybe 5 games in those 3 years for betgames against other poker players.
I did watch a lot of replays though so I was pretty much up to speed on how people play nowadays. I just didn't play myself.
Hmm it's not like I need to prove myself I guess=/
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On November 18 2008 17:30 TheFlashyOne wrote:Show nested quote +On November 18 2008 09:27 Twisted wrote:
General opinion
So it's been fun playing some Starcraft again after a 3year hiatus. I've made C+ in a few days Hiatus? Define hiatus. its not like you didnt play at all during 3 years and made it to C+ in a few days...nobody can do that. the level of SC gaming now has nothing to do with what it was 3 years ago. you must have gamed a lot during that 'hiatus'
lol
do you know anything about twisted
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Awesome, That guy sounds awesome, I'll check out the replay later
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Damn you're so good, I would be overjoyed at even achieving D+ rank hah. :/
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On November 18 2008 21:27 Twisted wrote:Show nested quote +On November 18 2008 17:30 TheFlashyOne wrote:On November 18 2008 09:27 Twisted wrote:
General opinion
So it's been fun playing some Starcraft again after a 3year hiatus. I've made C+ in a few days Hiatus? Define hiatus. its not like you didnt play at all during 3 years and made it to C+ in a few days...nobody can do that. the level of SC gaming now has nothing to do with what it was 3 years ago. you must have gamed a lot during that 'hiatus' Ok I admit, I played 32 games on iccup in april when I heard about Netherlands having a WCG. Then I found out that I would be on vacation when the Dutch qualifications were so I quit again. That's all apart from maybe 5 games in those 3 years for betgames against other poker players. I did watch a lot of replays though so I was pretty much up to speed on how people play nowadays. I just didn't play myself. Hmm it's not like I need to prove myself I guess=/
tehe you gots caught ^o^
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On November 18 2008 15:52 T.Sqd)LillTT wrote:That FAG protoss you played is a freakin dischacking map rigging faggot I won him pretty easy with lurk contain he couldnt break cz I knew his mass zealot strat anyways, note to everyone dont play the fag, he riggs maps. And LOL @ those who think he's a progamer or atleast close to his level hahaha...
how can you rig maps in one on one mode...?
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I made a new account purely for PvZ trying out the strat that P used (cannons + grades + macro hard off to bases and attack move with no storm). See how far I get it.
I've lost 1 game when I had 3-3-3 to some guys mass 0-0 hydra, however he had mass expos and i was useless without storm. But I broke his contain SO easily with this.. I might sneak in a few templars as I feel I can afford a few.
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Netherlands4511 Posts
On November 18 2008 17:30 TheFlashyOne wrote:Show nested quote +On November 18 2008 09:27 Twisted wrote:
General opinion
So it's been fun playing some Starcraft again after a 3year hiatus. I've made C+ in a few days Hiatus? Define hiatus. its not like you didnt play at all during 3 years and made it to C+ in a few days...nobody can do that. the level of SC gaming now has nothing to do with what it was 3 years ago. you must have gamed a lot during that 'hiatus'
ur dumb, i played 5 games in 3 years and made it to B in 2 weeks coming back, oldschool gosus can EASILY make C+/B- within days/weeks of their return,
the top level changed but people below B are still newbs
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On November 19 2008 08:25 ret wrote:Show nested quote +On November 18 2008 17:30 TheFlashyOne wrote:On November 18 2008 09:27 Twisted wrote:
General opinion
So it's been fun playing some Starcraft again after a 3year hiatus. I've made C+ in a few days Hiatus? Define hiatus. its not like you didnt play at all during 3 years and made it to C+ in a few days...nobody can do that. the level of SC gaming now has nothing to do with what it was 3 years ago. you must have gamed a lot during that 'hiatus' the top level changed but people below B are still newbs
Way to insult 90% of the board!
Seriously though, I don't think it takes a long time to get back into winning form; especially if you were a really good player before and still kept track of SC, just didn't play.
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Netherlands4511 Posts
On November 19 2008 09:02 Salv wrote:Show nested quote +On November 19 2008 08:25 ret wrote:On November 18 2008 17:30 TheFlashyOne wrote:On November 18 2008 09:27 Twisted wrote:
General opinion
So it's been fun playing some Starcraft again after a 3year hiatus. I've made C+ in a few days Hiatus? Define hiatus. its not like you didnt play at all during 3 years and made it to C+ in a few days...nobody can do that. the level of SC gaming now has nothing to do with what it was 3 years ago. you must have gamed a lot during that 'hiatus' the top level changed but people below B are still newbs Way to insult 90% of the board!
Well, I was comparing to old school top teir foreigners, it wasnt an insult.
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On November 19 2008 10:13 ret wrote:Show nested quote +On November 19 2008 09:02 Salv wrote:On November 19 2008 08:25 ret wrote:On November 18 2008 17:30 TheFlashyOne wrote:On November 18 2008 09:27 Twisted wrote:
General opinion
So it's been fun playing some Starcraft again after a 3year hiatus. I've made C+ in a few days Hiatus? Define hiatus. its not like you didnt play at all during 3 years and made it to C+ in a few days...nobody can do that. the level of SC gaming now has nothing to do with what it was 3 years ago. you must have gamed a lot during that 'hiatus' the top level changed but people below B are still newbs Way to insult 90% of the board! Well, I was comparing to old school top teir foreigners, it wasnt an insult.
I was just joking Ret, I didn't really make it clear though. I agree with your point.
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