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Newbistic
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
China2912 Posts
November 14 2008 01:52 GMT
#1
So at work part of my job is to randomly generate passwords for people who forget their login password or unable to log in.

Every time (literally 100% of the time) I get an password with a ! in it I tell the person on the phone "exclamation mark" and they read it back to me "exclamation point" -_- Not following my leadership at all.

Being a semi-grammar nazi, I need to know which one it is.

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Poll: Is it an exclamation mark or an exclamation point?
(Vote): Exclamation mark
(Vote): Exclamation point


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Logic is Overrated
Dead9
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States4725 Posts
November 14 2008 01:54 GMT
#2
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/!
Both!
-orb-
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States5770 Posts
November 14 2008 01:54 GMT
#3
mark for sure
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Pokebunny
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States10654 Posts
November 14 2008 01:54 GMT
#4
Point!
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micronesia
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States24799 Posts
November 14 2008 01:54 GMT
#5
Interchangeable.
ModeratorThere are animal crackers for people and there are people crackers for animals.
Seraphim
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
United States4467 Posts
November 14 2008 01:57 GMT
#6
point!
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conCentrate9
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States438 Posts
November 14 2008 02:01 GMT
#7
I specifically remember learning this in like kindergarten. They taught us both.

I think I say point more often, but I have no way of telling except now I'll make note of which one I use. hah.
Straylight
Profile Joined March 2008
Canada706 Posts
November 14 2008 02:01 GMT
#8
On November 14 2008 10:54 micronesia wrote:
Interchangeable!


Fixed!
It felt like gravity.
renegade_zerg
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
Korea (South)525 Posts
November 14 2008 02:02 GMT
#9
choice c: both
IntoTheWow
Profile Blog Joined May 2004
is awesome32281 Posts
November 14 2008 02:02 GMT
#10
lol!
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paper
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
13197 Posts
November 14 2008 02:06 GMT
#11
exclamation mark : exclamation point :: question mark : question point

no one says question point
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micronesia
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States24799 Posts
November 14 2008 02:10 GMT
#12
On November 14 2008 11:06 paper wrote:
exclamation mark : exclamation point :: question mark : question point

no one says question point

Lol is this serious or a joke...
ModeratorThere are animal crackers for people and there are people crackers for animals.
Frits
Profile Joined March 2003
11782 Posts
November 14 2008 02:11 GMT
#13
Uitroepteken.
bluemanrocks
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States304 Posts
November 14 2008 02:19 GMT
#14
point
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IzzyCraft
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States4487 Posts
November 14 2008 02:21 GMT
#15
Mark! totally not a point it has a point
I have ass for brains so,
even when I shit I'm droping knowledge.
thunk
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States6233 Posts
November 14 2008 02:25 GMT
#16
I just realized I say exclamation point. I thought I was a mark kind of guy.
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SonuvBob
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
Aiur21552 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-11-14 02:37:31
November 14 2008 02:34 GMT
#17
Exclamation point.

Or "bang" :p
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Grobyc
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Canada18410 Posts
November 14 2008 02:41 GMT
#18
Exclamation mark
Never heard a single person in my life say exclamation point...
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Straylight
Profile Joined March 2008
Canada706 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-11-14 02:54:04
November 14 2008 02:53 GMT
#19
On November 14 2008 11:06 paper wrote:
exclamation mark : exclamation point :: question mark : question point

no one says question point


What kind of logic is this?
It felt like gravity.
Newbistic
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
China2912 Posts
November 14 2008 02:56 GMT
#20
On November 14 2008 11:53 Straylight wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 14 2008 11:06 paper wrote:
exclamation mark : exclamation point :: question mark : question point

no one says question point


What kind of logic is this?


That's the exact same logic I had. It's all about consistency. Question mark, exclamation mark, dark mark, etc.
Logic is Overrated
prOxi.swAMi
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
Australia3091 Posts
November 14 2008 02:59 GMT
#21
On November 14 2008 11:41 Grobyc wrote:
Exclamation mark
Never heard a single person in my life say exclamation point...

same here
Oh no
qrs
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States3637 Posts
November 14 2008 03:07 GMT
#22
On November 14 2008 11:56 Newbistic wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 14 2008 11:53 Straylight wrote:
On November 14 2008 11:06 paper wrote:
exclamation mark : exclamation point :: question mark : question point

no one says question point


What kind of logic is this?


That's the exact same logic I had. It's all about consistency. Question mark, exclamation mark, dark mark, etc.
That comparison could easily point the other way: i.e. that exclamation point was the original, and people like you began using exclamation mark by analogy with question mark. But why speculate: let's check the sources:


OEDILF lists both "exclamation mark" and "exclamation point", as well as "bang".

The original OED indicates that the original word for ! was "point of exclamation", "note of exclamation", or simply "exclamation". Both "exclamation mark" and "exclamation point" were originally U.S. usages, although now they have spread.

OED cites 1864 Webster's Dictionary with "exclamation point". It has an 1896 citation for "mark of exclamation". Its first citation for "exclamation mark" is from 1926, from Fowler's Modern English Usage, no less.
'As per the American Heart Association, the beat of the Bee Gees song "Stayin' Alive" provides an ideal rhythm in terms of beats per minute to use for hands-only CPR. One can also hum Queen's "Another One Bites The Dust".' —Wikipedia
anderoo
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Canada1876 Posts
November 14 2008 03:12 GMT
#23
if you think it's exclamation point then your parents didn't love you enough
ChaoSbringer
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Australia1382 Posts
November 14 2008 03:16 GMT
#24
100% point
ShmotZ
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States581 Posts
November 14 2008 03:33 GMT
#25
hmm, i use Exclamation point more then mark.

I was taught in school that its called Exclamation mark, but i hear point more then mark so i just picked it up as point.
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ATeddyBear
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Canada2843 Posts
November 14 2008 03:49 GMT
#26
Exclamation mark
Question mark
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LeperKahn
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Romania1852 Posts
November 14 2008 03:59 GMT
#27
It's point. Anyone who says different is wrong.
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ulszz
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
Jamaica1787 Posts
November 14 2008 04:06 GMT
#28
obviously bang
everliving, everfaithful, eversure
Archaic
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States4024 Posts
November 14 2008 04:15 GMT
#29
On November 14 2008 10:54 Dead9 wrote:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/!
Both!


I thought you were trying to yell Wikipedia's main page at me... /bad joke

I have heard both, but I personally prefer mark.
SonuvBob
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
Aiur21552 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-11-14 04:20:14
November 14 2008 04:16 GMT
#30
According to the renowned scholar Google, "exclamation mark" has 826,000 hits and "exclamation point" has 2,090,000 hits.

However, in a stunning turn of events, the wikipedia talk page offers "dog's cock", which I think should take precedence over both of the above terms.

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Poll: Best term for !
(Vote): Exclamation point
(Vote): Exclamation mark
(Vote): Bang
(Vote): Dog's cock
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JeeJee
Profile Blog Joined July 2003
Canada5652 Posts
November 14 2008 04:16 GMT
#31
there's some really old rap song that i can't remember anything about except that one of the lines is very clearly pronounced: "ex-cla-mation POINT" (emphasis theirs)
the defence rests
(\o/)  If you want it, you find a way. Otherwise you find excuses. No exceptions.
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paper
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
13197 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-11-14 06:00:53
November 14 2008 06:00 GMT
#32
On November 14 2008 12:07 qrs wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 14 2008 11:56 Newbistic wrote:
On November 14 2008 11:53 Straylight wrote:
On November 14 2008 11:06 paper wrote:
exclamation mark : exclamation point :: question mark : question point

no one says question point


What kind of logic is this?


That's the exact same logic I had. It's all about consistency. Question mark, exclamation mark, dark mark, etc.
That comparison could easily point the other way: i.e. that exclamation point was the original, and people like you began using exclamation mark by analogy with question mark. But why speculate: let's check the sources:


if exclamation mark, exclamation point, and question mark are frequently used, but not question point, how does it point the other way? lol
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Divinek
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
Canada4045 Posts
November 14 2008 07:04 GMT
#33
How can it be a point? There is a point in it yes, but the object as a whole is not just a point, it's a mark.
Never attribute to malice that which can be adequately explained by stupidity.
Oh goodness me, FOX tv where do you get your sight? Can't you keep track, the puck is black. That's why the ice is white.
skyglow1
Profile Blog Joined April 2005
New Zealand3962 Posts
November 14 2008 07:57 GMT
#34
Exclamation mark...point just sounds strange.
SiegeTanksandBlueGoo
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
China685 Posts
November 14 2008 08:00 GMT
#35
You say Po-ta-to, I saw Po-ta-toe.
What does the scouter say about his macro level? It's Over 9000 minerals!
SpiritoftheTunA
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
United States20903 Posts
November 14 2008 08:25 GMT
#36
On November 14 2008 17:00 SiegeTanksandBlueGoo wrote:
You say Po-ta-to, I saw Po-ta-toe.

KILL YOURSELF
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jello_biafra
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
United Kingdom6642 Posts
November 14 2008 10:12 GMT
#37
On November 14 2008 11:41 Grobyc wrote:
Exclamation mark
Never heard a single person in my life say exclamation point...

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cujo2k
Profile Joined October 2007
Canada1044 Posts
November 14 2008 11:09 GMT
#38
why is this thread still going on ;; it was proven in the first reply that both are fine. it's like debating over whether a word should be spelled favor or favour -_-;
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SiegeTanksandBlueGoo
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
China685 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-11-15 06:39:14
November 15 2008 06:09 GMT
#39
On November 14 2008 17:25 SpiritoftheTuna wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 14 2008 17:00 SiegeTanksandBlueGoo wrote:
You say Po-ta-to, I saw Po-ta-toe.

KILL YOURSELF


If your thoughts were somewhat coherent, you would realize I was talking about how it doesn't matter because the difference is only what people think it is.

I don't particularly fucking cared if some girl at my school just raped your heart. It doesn't mean you have to go on bitching about it. We care so much. It was last august for god sakes. Grow up.

edit: spelled cuss words wrong. =]
What does the scouter say about his macro level? It's Over 9000 minerals!
fight_or_flight
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States3988 Posts
November 15 2008 06:14 GMT
#40
I didn't even notice there were two ways of saying it. Why did you take away my innocence???
Do you really want chat rooms?
Tinithor
Profile Joined February 2008
United States1552 Posts
November 15 2008 07:48 GMT
#41
It actually is an Exclamation Point
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Daigomi
Profile Blog Joined May 2006
South Africa4316 Posts
November 15 2008 10:32 GMT
#42
It seems like both are fine, but that Americans (as in US, not Canada) tend to say Exclamation point (thus explaining the google search), while the rest of the world primarily uses exclamation mark. I have never in my life heard anyone call it an exclamation point
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HeavOnEarth
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States7087 Posts
November 15 2008 12:25 GMT
#43
oh come on guys wheres the flame

first

So at work part of my job is to randomly generate passwords for people


...+

Not following my leadership at all.


... what leadership?

second
why so pointless blog
Might as well make a fakesteve Blog thread as well as his youtube video thread
Jesus christ so many of them; at least with videos; most of the time it's fairly entertaining or amusing.
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