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[H] Physics (Power)

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Peter[Deuce]
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
United States93 Posts
November 07 2008 02:23 GMT
#1
High School physics question is too difficult =[

A 1.0 x 10^3 kg elevator carries a maximum load of 800 kg. A constant frictional force of 4.0 x 10^3 N retards the elevator's motion upward. What minimum power, in kilowatts, must the motor deliver to lift the fully loaded elevator at a constant speed of 3.00 m/s.

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66kW


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Kula
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United States140 Posts
November 07 2008 02:25 GMT
#2
What a difficult problem.
Luddite
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
United States2315 Posts
November 07 2008 03:05 GMT
#3
Problems involving work (or power, like here) are always annoying because you have be really careful about your definition of work. Here I guess they want you to include the force needed to overcome friction because they're asking for work done by the motor, not work done on the elevator.

so, recall that potential energy from height = MgH. Moving the elevator upwards at 3 m/s increases
height at 3.00 m/s, and Mg is a force. force * m/s = power, and you can add the frictional force to the force of gravity. That should give you the correct answer.
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evanthebouncy!
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
United States12816 Posts
November 07 2008 03:10 GMT
#4
^ I think he has it.
Power = ForceNeeded * Speed
so just add up the force, friction and gravity, times that to speed...
Don't see it as too difficult, maybe review your section abit? :D
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Kula
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United States140 Posts
November 07 2008 03:38 GMT
#5
(1800+4000/9.81+9.81)x9.81x3=65270-65 kw :[

Without adding gravity it becomes 64981.44=65 kw

How'd you guys do it?
Peter[Deuce]
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
United States93 Posts
November 07 2008 03:39 GMT
#6
=[ Yeah I don't think this is my fault. My teacher just tells me to do problems while he sits at his desk.

I did P=(1800x9.81+4000)3
P=64974
It is only 65kW =[
magicbullet
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
Singapore163 Posts
November 07 2008 03:40 GMT
#7
Total mass of fully loaded evevator=1800kg

Power = work done/ time
= (work done against friction + work done to pull the elevator up) / time taken
= (1800KG*10 m/s^2*3m + 4000N*3m) / 1s
= 66 kw
In the long run we are all dead - J.M. Keynes
Luddite
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
United States2315 Posts
November 07 2008 03:44 GMT
#8
Haha when you see that all the numbers are round numbers it's ok to just round off gravity to 10 m/s^2
Can't believe I'm still here playing this same game
Peter[Deuce]
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
United States93 Posts
November 07 2008 03:47 GMT
#9
Ah thank you!
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