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micronesia
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States24680 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-10-24 22:02:52
October 24 2008 22:02 GMT
#1
One thing I find interesting is how an appreciation for math and science can so be so seamlessly incorporated into a discussion about almost anything. Sometimes hijacking a discussion and turning it into a math problem will annoy the other participants, depending on the circumstances. However, I think it's good to have a true appreciation for the value of this. Take a look at this example of a car conversation I just had on irc:


Originally said in #teamliquid on IRC:
[17:44] <DhakhaR> http://www.bugatti.com/en/veyron-16.4.html ?
[17:45] <micronesia> I don't even know what that is haha
[17:45] <DhakhaR> really?
[17:45] <micronesia> With its 16-cylinder four-wheel drive, the Bugatti Veyron 16.4 may well be the most sophisticated production vehicle of all times.
[17:45] <micronesia> wow
[17:45] <DhakhaR> fastest road car ever
[17:45] <micronesia> how much is that
[17:45] <DhakhaR> erm... infinte
[17:46] <DhakhaR> you have to be selected to buy one
[17:46] <DhakhaR> its like 1000bhp
[17:46] * lofwyr is now known as LOFWYR
[17:46] <DhakhaR> 400kph
[17:46] <micronesia> all the units on that site
[17:46] <micronesia> are metric
[17:46] <micronesia> dammit
[17:47] <micronesia> brb
[17:47] <DhakhaR> kk
[17:47] <micronesia> back, so yeah
[17:48] <micronesia> I don't know that much about cars over say
[17:48] <micronesia> 100k haha
[17:48] <micronesia> (us dollar)
[17:48] <micronesia> although the way things are going I won't be able to get a yaris for that much soon
[17:49] <DhakhaR> lol
[17:49] <DhakhaR> at least your fuel is cheap
[17:49] <DhakhaR> although you have further to go i guess
[17:49] <micronesia> our fuel isn't as cheap as it used to be but
[17:49] <micronesia> it's recently gone back down partly
[17:49] <micronesia> The mighty, 1,001-horsepower sixteen-cylinder four-wheel drive can be felt and driven through a wide spectrum of revolutions per minute. Constant 250 km/h require only 270-280 of the Veyron’s horsepower. More than 700 HP are continuously “on standby” for quick and fast interludes
[17:49] <micronesia> jeez
[17:49] <micronesia> they probably like
[17:50] <micronesia> reworked that thing for a while
[17:50] <micronesia> to add a few hp
[17:50] <micronesia> to get over 1000 hahaha
[17:50] <DhakhaR> yeah, i read alot about it when it came out
[17:50] <micronesia> how long ago
[17:50] <DhakhaR> hmm
[17:50] <micronesia> imagine parking that thing in a shopping center haha
[17:50] <DhakhaR> maybe 2 years max
[17:50] <micronesia> what does a 7 speed transmission even look like
[17:50] <DhakhaR> in an attempt to raise the top speed they redesigned the wing mirrors
[17:50] <micronesia> the shifter, that is
[17:51] <DhakhaR> but then found that the larger shape was holding the car on the ground aerodynamically
[17:51] <micronesia> ah
[17:51] <micronesia> downforce from mirrors eh
[17:51] <micronesia> that's interesting
[17:52] <DhakhaR> at top speed it covers the length of a soccer field in less than a second
[17:52] <micronesia> what is its top speed
[17:52] <DhakhaR> 408kmph
[17:52] <micronesia> 255 mph
[17:52] <micronesia> sick
[17:52] <DhakhaR> yeah
[17:52] <micronesia> how long is a soccer field
[17:52] <DhakhaR> it will out accellerate a formula 1 car
[17:52] <DhakhaR> idk exactly
[17:52] <micronesia> let me look it up
[17:52] <DhakhaR> wikipedia?
[17:53] <DhakhaR> my GF is making a cake and it smells GOOD
[17:53] <micronesia> The official soccer field size for adults can range from 50 to 100 yards wide by 100 to 130 yards long.
[17:53] <micronesia> let's say 100 yards
[17:53] <DhakhaR> k
[17:54] <micronesia> .0568 miles
[17:54] <micronesia> at 255 mph
[17:54] <micronesia> .8 seconds

[17:54] <micronesia> :D
[17:54] <DhakhaR> this maths problem is more fun
[17:55] <DhakhaR> so crazy


I stuck to an elementary example, so some will make the claim that it was trivial, but I think being able to effortlessly do unit conversions and plug the numbers into 'calculator' on your computer is an undervalued skill.

If I chose a less elementary example, some readers would certainly have found this to be a case where making the situation into a math problem is dumb/etc.

BTW next thinking physics soon.

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ModeratorThere are animal crackers for people and there are people crackers for animals.
DhakhaR
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United Kingdom721 Posts
October 24 2008 22:11 GMT
#2
The most impostant lesson to take away from this is...

+ Show Spoiler +
On October 25 2008 07:02 micronesia wrote:
[17:53] <DhakhaR> my GF is making a cake and it smells GOOD

Nytefish
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United Kingdom4282 Posts
October 24 2008 22:16 GMT
#3
I think it's more physics/economics that has this kind of "real life application".

Pure maths is too abstract unless you hang around with people who's lives revolve around transformations in the complex plane or something.

Although my dad does slip random bits of maths into everyday life.
"I said hand me the mug, not the salt shaker!"
"Well they are topologically the same."

:D
No I'm never serious.
Luddite
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
United States2315 Posts
October 24 2008 22:36 GMT
#4
Since I hang out with a lot of physics/math students, I see this kind of thing happens constantly, and I gotta say I find it rather annoying sometimes. Sometimes it gets tiring having every little detail examined sooooo carefully.
Can't believe I'm still here playing this same game
micronesia
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States24680 Posts
October 24 2008 22:41 GMT
#5
On October 25 2008 07:36 Luddite wrote:
Since I hang out with a lot of physics/math students, I see this kind of thing happens constantly, and I gotta say I find it rather annoying sometimes. Sometimes it gets tiring having every little detail examined sooooo carefully.

Yes this was my point. If you take it too far, it's bad. But like, this was a case where I don't think it was bad.
ModeratorThere are animal crackers for people and there are people crackers for animals.
Mastermind
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Canada7096 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-10-24 23:07:28
October 24 2008 23:06 GMT
#6
This is extremely trivial, but I bet most people out there would be clueless. Its quite sad.


Although my dad does slip random bits of maths into everyday life.
"I said hand me the mug, not the salt shaker!"
"Well they are topologically the same."

Thats hilarious. I wish I knew people who cracked hokes like that. Im still laughing.
GHOSTCLAW
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States17042 Posts
October 24 2008 23:53 GMT
#7
Basic math like that is really important- the ability to make guestimations and otherwise see what makes sense lets you perform back of the hand analysis on lots of problems.
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Insane Lane
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States397 Posts
October 25 2008 00:08 GMT
#8
Yeah I do this all the time. Like if somebody says that it's really hard to move something, I'm like, "Yeah yo, mad coefficient of friction on that shit".

Today, I was standing on this platform with a friend and we were fooling around. I nudged her and she almost fell over off the platform, so she turned around and pushed against me but ended up falling off as a result. She was a bit annoyed but I was just bragging like "damn, did you just see that normal force? Totally projectile motioned you with that." She just looked at me exasperated, LOL.

Yeah, I rock it gangsta physics like that.
SonuvBob
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
Aiur21549 Posts
October 25 2008 00:30 GMT
#9
Out of curiosity, have you read Lockhart's Lament? (pdf file)
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FakeSteve[TPR]
Profile Blog Joined July 2003
Valhalla18444 Posts
October 25 2008 01:02 GMT
#10
math is everywhere

i said 2 my friend 'how much money do u have' and he said 'four bux'

four is a number

math!!!!!!
Moderatormy tatsu loops r fuckin nice
Cascade
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
Australia5405 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-10-25 01:18:50
October 25 2008 01:18 GMT
#11
I'm using group theory when cleaning tomatoes. Really.
+ Show Spoiler [group theory applied to tomatoes] +
The fact that the rotation group of a tomato, SO(3), is a non-abelian group allows you to rotate the tomatoes by only rolling them around a bit in circles, and even though they will roll back to the original place, they will now have a different orientation, and you can clean that side as well, if you keep it under water.

And making meatballs:
+ Show Spoiler [group theory applied to meatballs] +
Same goes for meatballs. When you fry them, you dont need to actually lift them up to turn them. Just make sure to not shake the pan straight back and forth, but in a circlular motion, and the meatballs will turn a different side up, even though every meatball will stay in the same place as they originally were. Also, make sure that they do not slide, but roll, in the pan.

EDIT: I get a lot of girls.
Lemonwalrus
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
United States5465 Posts
October 25 2008 01:21 GMT
#12
Epic Math battle between the physics teaching broodwar player and the broodwar playing particle physicist.

bo((2^3)+1)

It will be epic.
micronesia
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States24680 Posts
October 25 2008 02:32 GMT
#13
On October 25 2008 09:30 SonuvBob wrote:
Out of curiosity, have you read Lockhart's Lament? (pdf file)

I have now.
ModeratorThere are animal crackers for people and there are people crackers for animals.
antrax
Profile Joined July 2005
Peru191 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-10-25 02:54:25
October 25 2008 02:49 GMT
#14
On October 25 2008 10:02 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote:
math is everywhere


Indeed







Deep tech
micronesia
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States24680 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-10-25 02:58:54
October 25 2008 02:58 GMT
#15
antrax didn't they get pi wrong in the first video lol

edit: is that before they had better algorithms for determining decimals of pi?
ModeratorThere are animal crackers for people and there are people crackers for animals.
antrax
Profile Joined July 2005
Peru191 Posts
October 25 2008 03:02 GMT
#16
On October 25 2008 11:58 micronesia wrote:
antrax didn't they get pi wrong in the first video lol

edit: is that before they had better algorithms for determining decimals of pi?


yep is wrong, who knows the truth behind that mistake (almost 50 years ago LOL)
Deep tech
Jyvblamo
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
Canada13788 Posts
October 25 2008 03:42 GMT
#17
On October 25 2008 09:30 SonuvBob wrote:
Out of curiosity, have you read Lockhart's Lament? (pdf file)

Excellent read, it really resonates with my frustration with mathematics (and my subsequent love affair with it~).
Avidkeystamper
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States8552 Posts
October 25 2008 03:55 GMT
#18
Me too, I'm saving some of these arguments for later use.
Jaedong
Salv
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
Canada3083 Posts
October 25 2008 04:01 GMT
#19
On October 25 2008 10:02 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote:
math is everywhere

i said 2 my friend 'how much money do u have' and he said 'four bux'

four is a number

math!!!!!!


I had a similar experience!
micronesia
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States24680 Posts
October 25 2008 04:06 GMT
#20
Be careful guys. Someone who has been brought up in the modern world of math education, and takes great pride in their math background and apparent 'open-mindedness' will most likely become very angry as they read it, will constantly accuse the author of various things, and then claim that they cannot bring thyself to finish it.
ModeratorThere are animal crackers for people and there are people crackers for animals.
Chromyne
Profile Joined January 2008
Canada561 Posts
October 25 2008 05:44 GMT
#21
I go to an Engineering school, this comes up all the time, comparing things to circuits, anisotropy of materials, saying someone got "p vector-ed" by a car. The sad thing is, once a comparison is made, we digress into how sound the analogy is completely forgot about the actual topic of discussion!
Soli Deo gloria.
shavingcream66
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States1219 Posts
October 25 2008 07:32 GMT
#22
SO THIS IS HOW YOU PICK UP GIRLS
Nytefish
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United Kingdom4282 Posts
October 25 2008 08:01 GMT
#23
Nah it's how we train ourselves to pick up money.
The girls will come naturally after that.
No I'm never serious.
DhakhaR
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United Kingdom721 Posts
October 25 2008 10:31 GMT
#24
On October 25 2008 07:11 DhakhaR wrote:
The most impostant lesson to take away from this is...

+ Show Spoiler +
On October 25 2008 07:02 micronesia wrote:
[17:53] <DhakhaR> my GF is making a cake and it smells GOOD



Cake!
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