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8751 Posts
They suck.
Blue Storm
Ok I was expecting this one since it's in the National final map pack so it's fine. The rest aren't.
Python
Old map that I haven't practiced in a long time (pre-TSL?). It's plain and boring. It's SUPER imbalanced against Protoss -- only 40% win in both PvZ and PvT with enough games to make those stats legitimate. Terran has 60% win for both TvP and TvZ.
Peaks of Baekdu
Old map that I haven't practiced in a long time. It's a good map but it has already run its course. It favors Protoss, but not as much as Python favors Terran, because of their ratios against Zerg on each map.
Tau Cross
Old map that I haven't practiced in a long time. I think I practiced it a little for TSL, but not much, since it was only used for one stage, I kind of blew it off. I guess it's a decent map but I feel like it has run its course and there's nothing new to do on it . It follows the traditional Z>P>T balance, with T=Z. Slightly bad for Terran/good for Zerg.
Ride of Valkyries
I need to dust off the history books for this map. I have never practiced this map. Stats say the matchups are even except Z>P though that could be a result of the era. Why in the world is this map in the pool? I can understand Proleague making a move to revive some old favorites, and even them doing it was quite controversial, but WCG does it without good reason and everyone just goes along with it.
So I haven't played my national final yet, so perhaps this all won't matter to me, but I felt like saying that this map pool is ridiculous anyway. Why have two different map pools for Nationals and Grand Finals? What if the best American player on the Nationals maps isn't the best player on the Grand Finals maps? What if there is nobody in the world to practice these maps with except the competition? Why have five maps? Ridiculous!
In my opinion, old maps should only be used if there are really really good reasons. The map pool of BS/Othello/Andro/Troy was decent. Just drop Troy. BS/Othello/Andro play out really differently for most matchups and, taken as a whole, are pretty balanced. Playing a Bo3 on those three maps would be entertaining and fair. Everyone is playing them and practicing them now so that all the good players can play their best on these maps. Having to revert back to old ones in less than 2 months time is silly and should only be necessary if all the maps were like Troy.
 
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United States24805 Posts
I prefer the maps from that era lol
I remember when python came out and I decided I liked it more than luna.
I remember when peaks came out and I said 'I hate mini chokes f this'
I remember when Tau Cross came out (along with arkanoid and another) and I decided I liked it much more than arkanoid
I remember when I was first learning to play and RoV was one of the nice maps.
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Calgary26004 Posts
Yes this map pool is terrible.
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did they change mappool again? i thought it was like this
Added: Andromeda, Othello, Troy
Removed: Python, Tau Cross, Neo Beakdu Daegan, WCG Gaia
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Wtf?
Thought the map pool was Othello, Troy and Andromeda?
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Netherlands19141 Posts
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Yeah, these maps are ancient... They need to get with the times! No new korean maps =\.
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WTF man sometimes WCG is meh
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iNcontroL
USA29055 Posts
Odd considering the maps are selected in korea.. why the FUCK would they go with these?
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United States11393 Posts
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On October 01 2008 01:33 {88}iNcontroL wrote:
Odd considering the maps are selected in korea.. why the FUCK would they go with these?
maybe they dont want all the zerg's and terrans to get knocked outta group stage.
with these maps maybe a protoss has to earn it. instead of the maps giving it to them ^^
even tho it seems dumb to have diffrent National finals.. and Grand finals map pool.
being a (zerg) i would much prefer this pool over the likes of troy 
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I love ROV =, you can practice with me ;p
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On October 01 2008 01:33 {88}iNcontroL wrote:
Odd considering the maps are selected in korea.. why the FUCK would they go with these?
Are they really? WCG is the worst thing I've ever heard of ... at least players get to play and fans get to watch, even if it is horribly orchestrated.
And Nony, even if you hate the map pool, you only a final away from being a progamer. But best of luck with WCG too!
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iNcontroL
USA29055 Posts
I recommend all protoss get in touch with FrozenArbiter.. he had a RoV build that will win 99% of your games there.
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Belgium9950 Posts
is this a carlodajin trap?
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Vatican City State1872 Posts
i know a few instant win pvz builds on rov
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On October 01 2008 01:46 {88}iNcontroL wrote:
I recommend all protoss get in touch with FrozenArbiter.. he had a RoV build that will win 99% of your games there.
Haha I remeber he had a PvZ build on Rush Hour that would win 99% too
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Belgium9950 Posts
oh and the maps will be finally announced Oct 10th is what the pdf says.
tbh any map is more fair than Troy
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Until you switch your race to zerg, don't complain.
Welcome to WCG. Maps no one wants to play or practice and the only people you can practice with are usually your competition. Good luck.
But to be fair, all these old maps were pretty fucking active a while ago with the exception of RoV. In fact all these maps were mega fucking active and apparently Blue Storm was a big one while I was away. (Unless this peaks is the first one, which is LOL).
So if you can't rekindle the old strategies fast on the old maps, that's your problem. They were played a LOT. And i'm sure you played them a lot a year or more ago. And if you played them that long ago it shouldn't be lost to you.
So stop making posts complaining and go hammer out a build order and refine your game.
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