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German 1 in College

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SaveYourSavior
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States1071 Posts
September 05 2008 19:54 GMT
#1
Hey I am entering college in a few weeks and I decided to take German 1 as one of my three classes for this upcoming quarter. After I signed up my parents went ballistic because German 1 apparently is freakin hard.

I took high school German all four years and even took the AP (got a 1). Has anyone here taken German in college? Was it fuken hard or similar level to what you learn in high school?

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decafchicken
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
United States20167 Posts
September 05 2008 19:57 GMT
#2
hahaha
any language 1 class is a total joke if you have any prior experience in the language. guarenteed 4.0 in that class, if you dont get kicked out of it.
how reasonable is it to eat off wood instead of your tummy?
Mickey
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
United States2606 Posts
September 05 2008 19:58 GMT
#3
If you've taken 4 years of German it shouldn't be that hard? You did mention you got a 1 on the AP exam, so I'm simply going to go, and say you're screwed.

If you're so worried about it drop it. My brother took German in HS, and he said it was difficult.
Ancestral
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States3230 Posts
September 05 2008 20:01 GMT
#4
I've taken / am taking, in the order of the amount of credits spent on them from most to least

Spanish
Korean
German

And I can say without a doubt, German is the easiest. College language classes aren't harder, there is just more work in them (which I guess could mean harder). If you're not a slacker, and you took that much in high school even if you sucked at it, taking the first language class at university should not be a challenge.
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Equinox_kr
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
United States7395 Posts
September 05 2008 20:02 GMT
#5
Maybe some German speakers can clarify, I obviously don't speak German but it seems that it's very similar to English? The vocabulary seems similar and the speaking style doesn't seem too hard either.

I guess saying that movies or TV shows with German speakers doesn't really qualify as evidence lol

But usually if you pay attention in class ANY language 1 class shouldn't be too hard. I took Japanese 1 and I was sure it was gonna be fucking hard (c'mon there's 3 different types of characters, and one of them is Chinese characters) but it wasn't that bad.
^-^
Equinox_kr
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
United States7395 Posts
September 05 2008 20:04 GMT
#6
On September 06 2008 05:01 Ancestral wrote:
I've taken / am taking, in the order of the amount of credits spent on them from most to least

Spanish
Korean
German

And I can say without a doubt, German is the easiest. College language classes aren't harder, there is just more work in them (which I guess could mean harder). If you're not a slacker, and you took that much in high school even if you sucked at it, taking the first language class at university should not be a challenge.


Yay Korean!

I love people (especially non-Asians) who speak Korean, it's SO AWESOME ^_^

I went to academy with this Greek guy who could speak Korean, he was sucking up to all the administrators and shit in Korean .. what a badass hahaha
^-^
Blind
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States2529 Posts
September 05 2008 20:15 GMT
#7
Just finished the German series at my college. They were all fairly easy, so don't sweat it. Some of the grammar can get tricky later on, but nothing to worry about as long as you put some effort into memorizing those rules. But this is German 1, so you don't even have to worry about that. It'll be cake.
NarutO
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
Germany18839 Posts
September 05 2008 20:41 GMT
#8
If you need help with the German language don't hesitate to get in touch with me :p
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Xeofreestyler
Profile Blog Joined June 2005
Belgium6777 Posts
September 05 2008 20:47 GMT
#9
On September 06 2008 05:02 Equinox_kr wrote:
Maybe some German speakers can clarify, I obviously don't speak German but it seems that it's very similar to English? The vocabulary seems similar and the speaking style doesn't seem too hard either.

I guess saying that movies or TV shows with German speakers doesn't really qualify as evidence lol

But usually if you pay attention in class ANY language 1 class shouldn't be too hard. I took Japanese 1 and I was sure it was gonna be fucking hard (c'mon there's 3 different types of characters, and one of them is Chinese characters) but it wasn't that bad.


Well english/german/dutch are all part of the same family so yeah they're pretty similar

Shouldn't be too hard. Especially with the classes you already took in highschool. Gl!
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d1v
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Sweden868 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-09-05 20:54:17
September 05 2008 20:48 GMT
#10
On September 06 2008 05:02 Equinox_kr wrote:
Maybe some German speakers can clarify, I obviously don't speak German but it seems that it's very similar to English? The vocabulary seems similar and the speaking style doesn't seem too hard either.

I guess saying that movies or TV shows with German speakers doesn't really qualify as evidence lol

But usually if you pay attention in class ANY language 1 class shouldn't be too hard. I took Japanese 1 and I was sure it was gonna be fucking hard (c'mon there's 3 different types of characters, and one of them is Chinese characters) but it wasn't that bad.


Well, there are a lot of nouns which are related, as a lot of the common English words are of Saxon origin. However, you need to be quite interested in languages to see such affinites on first hand.

Concerning grammar, German is completely different. Here are some differences:

1. Opposed to English, German has different kinds of defined pronouns (der, die, das), which have to be learnt with the noun.

2. German has full verbal flection (for every person), while English mostly has three.

3. The use of the tenses is quite different in German and afaik, there are a lot more rules to follow in order to choose the appropriate time.

4. Overall, German pronounciation is quite hard for people speaking a non-germanic languages (even though English has a lot of germanic elements).

EDIT: Forgot that German knows a lot of rules concerning punctuation and the such, it's a bitch to learn, even for Germans..

EDIT #2: If you've got any questions or need help, just PM me, I'll see what I can do.
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poilord
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Germany3252 Posts
September 05 2008 21:09 GMT
#11
I can offer help :p
.gypsy
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
Canada689 Posts
September 05 2008 22:02 GMT
#12
Nonono German is faaaaaaaaaaaaaaar different from English. Like in all honnesty ummm for example when I used to learn Spanish it was the eaaaaaaasiest thing simply because by knowing romanian (hihihihi) it was extremely ez to make links since romanian is so close to latin and spanish mostly latin and knowing French as well was a real help, however I must say that not knowing any German at all I barely ever understand it, and is most likely because English is closer to latin than you think, the similarities, unless you speak another language such as Dutch, are so small that, at least imo, it's barely impossible to pick up just a bit on what Germans are talking about ><. However, when you read written things I must admit it's extremely easy so it might just be the accent and Germans speaking fast =p
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0xDEADBEEF
Profile Joined September 2007
Germany1235 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-09-05 22:46:31
September 05 2008 22:36 GMT
#13
Common speak is always different from writing and the most difficult thing when you're just learning the language (because of accent, slang, special words, speed, less following of grammatical rules, ...).

Oh speaking of accents, there are some really weird regional ones old people might use occasionally, these can be close to impossible to understand even for a native speaker. My grandma and aunt talk to each other in Plattdeutsch, and no one understands them when they do that. :p
But everyone speaks normal Hochdeutsch (= standard) too of course.
merz
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
Sweden2760 Posts
September 05 2008 23:10 GMT
#14
On September 06 2008 05:02 Equinox_kr wrote:
Maybe some German speakers can clarify, I obviously don't speak German but it seems that it's very similar to English? The vocabulary seems similar and the speaking style doesn't seem too hard either.

I guess saying that movies or TV shows with German speakers doesn't really qualify as evidence lol

But usually if you pay attention in class ANY language 1 class shouldn't be too hard. I took Japanese 1 and I was sure it was gonna be fucking hard (c'mon there's 3 different types of characters, and one of them is Chinese characters) but it wasn't that bad.


German is definitely not similar to English.

Anyways I'd advise anyone who isn't really that interested in the language overall to stay the hell away from German. I studied it for 6 years, it was awesome in the beginning, but I lost interest and the grammar gets freaking confusing after a couple of years =[, there are so many exceptions for each rule, it's ridiculous :O
Winners never quit, quitters never win.
SaveYourSavior
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States1071 Posts
September 05 2008 23:24 GMT
#15
Ahh i see thanks everybody for the input

I know most of the basic grammar and stuff just my vocabulary fails quite badly. Meine Deutsch ist nicht gut.
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MannerKiss
Profile Joined June 2003
United States2398 Posts
September 06 2008 00:15 GMT
#16
German 1 at least at my college never goes beyond perfect tense (I am going to the store) so you don't have to worry about past tense, and hardly more than 40-50 words by the end of the semester. You'll breeze through it.
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zer0das
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States8519 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-09-06 00:26:29
September 06 2008 00:20 GMT
#17
Well, there's a lot of words in the English language that are German. And then they started absorbing English words (radio, etc). But the grammar can be maddening if you're an English speaker. Generally out of Latin, French, Spanish, and German, German is considered the hardest of the bunch. As a whole it isn't bad though.

I took German 2 first since I had 4 years of German in high school. My teacher was a drunk who I learned almost nothing from, and I didn't really care about German at the time (although if the teacher was good, I probably would have). Although my relative ease in the class probably had to do with how much I knew beforehand.
Frits
Profile Joined March 2003
11782 Posts
September 06 2008 00:34 GMT
#18
On September 06 2008 05:02 Equinox_kr wrote:
Maybe some German speakers can clarify, I obviously don't speak German but it seems that it's very similar to English? The vocabulary seems similar and the speaking style doesn't seem too hard either.

I guess saying that movies or TV shows with German speakers doesn't really qualify as evidence lol

But usually if you pay attention in class ANY language 1 class shouldn't be too hard. I took Japanese 1 and I was sure it was gonna be fucking hard (c'mon there's 3 different types of characters, and one of them is Chinese characters) but it wasn't that bad.


German has the most annoying grammar ever, on top of that all the words are a bitch to learn.

French is the language that's a lot like english, shitload of comparable words to english, simple grammar. But German? No way.
DevAzTaYtA
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
Oman2005 Posts
September 06 2008 00:39 GMT
#19
german 1 is easy as fuck, especially if you've taken 4 years of german before. guaranteed good grade with minimal effort.
definitely stay far away from the more advanced german courses though.
rgfdxm
Profile Joined December 2006
United States239 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-09-06 00:40:33
September 06 2008 00:40 GMT
#20
People, English is a Germanic language. It and German are descended from a common ancestor language. Those of you with some experience learning it may be justified in your opinions that that does not help much, but they are more similar than English is to most other languages.

English is a bit of a mess since it is a Germanic language that received a big injection of French from the Norman invasion a thousand years ago, but that just means we ended up with a Germanic language that had about 40% Romance/Latin descended vocabulary mixed in.
d1v
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Sweden868 Posts
September 06 2008 00:44 GMT
#21
On September 06 2008 09:40 rgfdxm wrote:
People, English is a Germanic language. It and German are descended from a common ancestor language. Those of you with some experience learning it may be justified in your opinions that that does not help much, but they are more similar than English is to most other languages.

English is a bit of a mess since it is a Germanic language that received a big injection of French from the Norman invasion a thousand years ago, but that just means we ended up with a Germanic language that had about 40% Romance/Latin descended vocabulary mixed in.


Yes, you're right about that. Especially the technical terms and the such are taken from Latin or French, while the more everyday language is influenced by Germanic dialects. However, as already stated above, you're required to have a basic understanding of vowel/consonant shifts to see the similarities right away.

Therefore, if you're not really commited to studying a language in depth, stay away from German.
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T.Sqd)LillTT
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Lithuania149 Posts
September 06 2008 00:48 GMT
#22
Well for a man who's native language is English german is not too hard since a lot of words are very simillar, but the grammar is fucked up. Well I was studying English for 11 years and German for 6 so I got to say sometimes I would get mixed up which one is which. But in overall it shouldm't be too hard
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