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Boblion
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
France8043 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-07-10 13:40:35
July 10 2008 13:29 GMT
#1
I'm really bored of broodwar atm. I have no more fun macroing, and sadly macro is at least 70% of your beloved game. So i started to play poker "seriously" ( but still on micro sng ).

So i know that i should post on Liquid Poker ( i will probably make an account here ) but i dont want to be bullied by the vets with my nooby questions. Moreover i lurk a bit here and i think some people give bad advices / or are always joking with beginners so i prefer to ask advices here .

So here is my story with poker. Two years ago a friend showed me that you could play for fun online and even get some free-rolls, and interested by the game i started to play just for fun ( and really bad ) on everest. But i still prefered bw so i didnt really play a lot. Then this year i was at university with another friend who is badly addicted to poker ( the guy lost 5000 euros in his two first months of poker :O ).

During the year we did some retarded turbo sng with rebuy with other university friends. I won one ( i got really lucky ) and i came back to home with 60 euros ) and i put 10 $ on everest and started to play cash game ( at the lowest limits ). Obviously i lost my 10 $ quite fast. I wasnt really worried and i came back to bw who was my main passion during this period ( if you remember my previous blogs ).

But few weeks ago i got really bored by bw and i really enjoyed watching my " degenerate " friend playing. He improved a lot after his two first months but he has still two major flaws for a poker player: he has no br management + he plays drunk ( and nearly always go broke when he does this ).
Moreover i was more and more interested by the mathematical aspects of poker ( i study a bit maths at university and even if overall i dislike it, i have always enjoyed probability problems with cards / dices ).

So when my friend went broke one more time he tried to use the Poker-strategy br and asked me to create an account because he would benefit of their "tell- a -friend" offer.

Hence i started to read stuff here and on liquid poker, and i tried to do the "small-stack" strategy on the lowest cash limits on Titan poker.
That was horrible, i never felt as bored of life. I was playing like a bot and after losing like 5$ i decided to stop cash game because i disliked it.

I remembered that Rekrul said that many people suck at poker because they play to win money and to gamble instead of enjoying the game and trying to get better.

So i tried hu sng 1$+0,20 and after few wins i started to run bad and probably to tilt. After losing 3 games in a row to a donk who liked coin flips ( this guy went allin pre flop with J 10 i called with AQ and i lost .. ) i felt that my nerves couldnt stand the high variance of hu so i stopped and tried the 1$+0,20 sng with 6 players.

It was a really good choice. I enjoy it more than hu, i can play on 2 or 3 table at the same time, and it seems that variance is way lower here.
Moreover i started to play really really good ( for my standarts lol )+ having some really good hands.
I'm playing really tight atm and it works. I read my opponents way better than before too. And i think that over my 20 last sng i only made 10 bad decisions.

This may look quite pretentious but i think now that i'm playing well ( on this kind of micro sng only lol )+ i enjoy playing a lot.
Nevertheless i'm not retarded and i know that with such a small sample i cant know if i really played well or if got lucky.

here is my sharkscope graph:
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So my main question is: after how many sng will i know that i'm good enought for higher stakes ? ( i want to move to 5$+1 with 6 people ).

Should i put a bit of money to increase my br and to move up , or should i grind slowly to get more money before moving ?





+ Show Spoiler +
sry for bad English


*
fuck all those elitists brb watching streams of elite players.
HeavOnEarth
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States7087 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-07-10 13:46:12
July 10 2008 13:45 GMT
#2
o.O i r poker nub ;
but nice write up :O i just play freerolls on pokerstars
i win a couple cents every now and then ^.^
+ Show Spoiler +
then i lose them
"come korea next time... FXO house... 10 korean, 10 korean"
Boblion
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
France8043 Posts
July 10 2008 13:50 GMT
#3
On July 10 2008 22:45 HeavOnEarth wrote:
o.O i r poker nub ;
but nice write up :O i just play freerolls on pokerstars
i win a couple cents every now and then ^.^
+ Show Spoiler +
then i lose them


Hehe it happened to me when i played free rolls on everest ^^. You lose them because you cant do br management :/.
Btw i think that my post looks uber-pretentious ( i havent played enought games ) but i just want to know how many sng i should play to know if i'm playing good or not.

So variance + poker experts help me please .
fuck all those elitists brb watching streams of elite players.
Spenguin
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
Australia3316 Posts
July 10 2008 14:04 GMT
#4
More money helps I reckon but it's if you can play with the increased pressure on you.
< TeamLiquid CJ Entusman #46 > I came for the Brood War, I stayed for the people.
lOstHeaven
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
Canada212 Posts
July 10 2008 14:59 GMT
#5
Depend what is your br management before moving up...5$ SnG isnt so hard on the IPoker Network, the players are just crazy...all-in with marginals hands and its mostly like 1$ SnG no fold equity so i am really sure u could give it a couple of shot. Just keep the same style u r playing and u be fine
but what do i know i started playing seriously for 2 months but have roughtly 8 months exp rofl
Lost in Heaven
rgfdxm
Profile Joined December 2006
United States239 Posts
July 10 2008 15:22 GMT
#6
I started on liquidpoker almost a year ago now, with no clue how to play and no money to deposit. People are quite willing to help noobs out, just don't start 5 million threads or try to give advice to people playing stakes higher than you.

The best places to get a lot of help are posting hands you have questions about in the "Hands" section, and since many of those will probably not get replied to then save up questions and make an occasional post in the blog section that has a bunch of hands and questions.

Reading a lot of the hands section and the low and mid-stakes forums was probably how I learned the most, just absorbing general concepts on proper play from what better players considered "standard" and reading their thought processes.

I play cash games and though I'm probably biased I recommend that you do too. SNGs can be profitable but can also be very swingy and frustrating and IMO it's a lot easier to get good and make money at cash. There aren't many dedicated SNG players at liquidpoker and I think that's not a coincidence.
geometryb
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
United States1249 Posts
July 10 2008 16:43 GMT
#7
i hate poker
geometryb
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
United States1249 Posts
July 10 2008 16:43 GMT
#8
it's all luck
Boblion
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
France8043 Posts
July 10 2008 18:29 GMT
#9
On July 11 2008 01:43 geometryb wrote:
it's all luck


On a huge amount of hands / sng i think skill really matters especially if you have a proper br management. Nevertheless downswing can happen.
fuck all those elitists brb watching streams of elite players.
lOstHeaven
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
Canada212 Posts
July 10 2008 18:49 GMT
#10
flip is all about luck
Lost in Heaven
Boblion
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
France8043 Posts
July 10 2008 19:25 GMT
#11
On July 11 2008 03:49 lOstHeaven wrote:
flip is all about luck


Noobish question sorry what do you call "flip" ?

50 % vs 50 % situations ?
fuck all those elitists brb watching streams of elite players.
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