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Hypnosis
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States2061 Posts
July 08 2008 22:59 GMT
#1
I am trying to learn how to death growl and metal scream (maybe not scream but like the high pitch death metal singing) I know you use the saliva in your mouth to sing, but could anyone with experience help me out? I can get a pretty good low growl but the higher pitches hurt my throat alot. I also know for pigs squeals your supposed to breath in. is that correct?

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Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States5770 Posts
July 08 2008 23:04 GMT
#2
I don't know anything about pig squeals but to learn to do opeth growls I had to do it drunk at first.

Just take in as big a breath as you possibly can, and try to exhale a lot of that breath while doing the growl. You really have to use a lot of air for it to get really low. And obviously open your throat as wide as it will go for pitch.

Higher pitched growls are harder imo. It's really like screaming. Just get drunk, have many fluids by your side for soothing your throat, and pretend like you're throwing a tantrum.

Once you mix the tantrum and the low opeth-style growls, you'll learn to achieve the effect you're looking for I believe.

Just do it a little each day. Don't overdo it at first or you could hurt yourself.
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boesthius
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States11637 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-07-08 23:06:34
July 08 2008 23:04 GMT
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Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States5770 Posts
July 08 2008 23:07 GMT
#4
What band has pig squealing? I've never heard of that nor do I think I've ever heard it in a song. It sounds totally ridiculous lol.

Then again I don't listen to american metal.
'life of lively to live to life of full life thx to shield battery'
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Hypnosis
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States2061 Posts
July 08 2008 23:07 GMT
#5
Ok i like Bring me the horizon. its like that high pitch RAAAAAAHHHHH scream and then the low pitch angry growl he does. also the black dahlia murder has good higher pitch growls. They arent like all shall perish screams which are way too hard to do for me.

I think i do need to be under the influence even though just sitting in my room i could get some pretty loud screams (if anyone heard it would be so funny what they would think). I can do a low growl for a pretty long time i think ill have to try but my throat hurts from screaming for like 10 minutes is that normal?
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Goosey
Profile Blog Joined September 2005
United States695 Posts
July 08 2008 23:07 GMT
#6
5/5 would read again.

Sorry i don't have any advice for you, but this post made me smile. :D
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Hypnosis
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States2061 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-07-08 23:08:38
July 08 2008 23:08 GMT
#7
On July 09 2008 08:07 -orb- wrote:
What band has pig squealing? I've never heard of that nor do I think I've ever heard it in a song. It sounds totally ridiculous lol.

Then again I don't listen to american metal.


listen to job for a cowboy, salt the wound, as blood runs black. Its like saying BREEE before words, its pretty good sounding as far as metal goes.
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boesthius
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States11637 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-07-08 23:13:29
July 08 2008 23:12 GMT
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Hypnosis
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States2061 Posts
July 08 2008 23:15 GMT
#9
BMTH is hardcore and jfac is like its own genre.
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boesthius
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States11637 Posts
July 08 2008 23:26 GMT
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Mischy
Profile Joined May 2008
United States179 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-07-08 23:53:20
July 08 2008 23:31 GMT
#11
oh lord lol I agree with Boesthius' statement Please go listen to necrophagist and nile immediately! Even Immortal Who can resist abbaths charm? Since I'm generous and work in the music industry i'm willing to help you out because I dont want to hear another failed attempt at music I perform metal quite often and I have to do vocals for most of the songs I happen to play. You dont have to use loads of air at all (unless doing extremely long phrases or long notes)...and dont look to achieve high volume instantly, you should be able to do a growl and successful scream at the volume you usually speak with. Let mics amplify your voice (you'll get louder and you'll be able to handle different dynamics better as you progress in your practice). As far as the technique well I'm not much into the pig-like vocal inhaling at all :S It'll tear up your vocal cords for sure (and it just isn't pleasant). To achieve the sound in growls you have to use your diaphram (so when you breath in, your chest doesn't move....it should feel like you're filling your stomach).

In reference to how your throat feels, well it should be like you're talking out of your nose I suppose is a way it could be described What I mean is you shouldn't feel your throat constrict, but you'll notice your tongue is probably farther back than usual (to use your false vocal cords more effectively without destroying your true vocal cords). Overall, tongue placement will change as you get better with this certain vocal technique. Any other questions just pm me because I refuse to type more here unless you go listen to necrophagist.

Edit: btw dont mic cup please...it's a big nono in my book. It kills any crisp resolution in your phrases and makes everything you growl sound like a broken dishwasher. I'm not saying you do it but its really common when people start out.

p.s.- If your throat hurts you're doing it wrong. Take a break from it if it does start to hurt or you'll damage your voice even more.
-orb-
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States5770 Posts
July 09 2008 00:45 GMT
#12
On July 09 2008 08:12 boesthius wrote:
I wanted to help you but since you listed BMTH and Jfac as metal I think I'm going to go cry now .

BMTH = shitty deathcore

Go listen to some Nile or Hate Eternal for death metal if you want the real thing =/. Necrophagist's vocals have a little inward growling to them, if you want some of that.


QFT

I was at a gigantour concert earlier this year, and while children of bodom was fucking epic, JFAC was fucking terrible. It was an outdoor concert and we had to leave the main seated area to go sit in the grassy hill behind because they were so bad.
'life of lively to live to life of full life thx to shield battery'
how sad that sc2 has no shield battery :(
AmorVincitOmnia
Profile Joined March 2005
Kenya3846 Posts
July 09 2008 05:16 GMT
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ShaLLoW[baY]
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Canada12499 Posts
July 09 2008 07:50 GMT
#14
Guys, let's turn this into a thread about Necrophagist!

What's your guys' favorite Necrophagist song? Personally, I like Stabwound, followed by Only Ash Remains and Intestinal Incubation.
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boesthius
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States11637 Posts
July 09 2008 07:59 GMT
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Mischy
Profile Joined May 2008
United States179 Posts
July 09 2008 08:42 GMT
#16
heh I'm gonna go with 'Fermented Offal Discharge', 'Diminished to B', 'To breathe in a casket'...though I do like what you guys listed too so I can't decide Not sure you'd get that many responses here tbh
Hypnosis
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States2061 Posts
July 09 2008 22:13 GMT
#17
Ok then im confused on exactly what BMTH is then. I just like them because they have really sick breakdowns. Job for a cowboy is pretty bad live, but they have sick songs.

Ill try and find my voice and record some screams for you guys LOL.

I listen to metal all day and i dont really like necrophagist, its too crazy.. maybe i need to listen closer.

I guess it just takes time. Nile is fucking bad imo, its like shitty grindcore (which is really annoying)
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Mischy
Profile Joined May 2008
United States179 Posts
July 09 2008 23:04 GMT
#18
Aw man dont compare Nile to grindcore please lol I can see where you're coming from regarding nile though so I dont feel the need to say anything against your opinion
Except:
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V2d44qWuOl0
wtf it's good

Definitely do some screams :D lol would be nice to hear how you sound.
evanthebouncy!
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
United States12816 Posts
July 09 2008 23:09 GMT
#19
eat hot charcoal to destroy your vocal chord.
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boesthius
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States11637 Posts
July 10 2008 00:23 GMT
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