EPTCatching Hackers 2 - Page 2
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DeadVessel
United States6269 Posts
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NonY
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On June 24 2008 04:51 fusionsdf wrote: yeah and why not just never release the method excpet to trusted tournament admins that way the hackers never know the method used, and it isnt useless come january 2nd because those select few could abuse their power! with great power comes great responsibility. someone send flag some spider-man dvd's and everything will be okay | ||
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svenneburner
Sweden64 Posts
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Chill
Calgary25990 Posts
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Superiorwolf
United States5509 Posts
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Kingsp4de20
United States716 Posts
Flag's gotta be on ever hackers hitlist. :D | ||
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Centric
United States1989 Posts
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Dromar
United States2145 Posts
On June 24 2008 04:34 Chill wrote: WAIT WAIT WAIT How about he picks a date to release the source for the hack detection? But until that date he just releases who he caught, not how they were caught. It's brilliant. OMG why didn't somebody think of this sooner!!! | ||
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Dromar
United States2145 Posts
On June 24 2008 05:11 Superiorwolf wrote: flag's icon should be a photon cannon or something. A detector, which kills them too! Thanks so much flag!! That's a pretty good idea. @Flag: can you estimate how easily they'll be able to patch once your new method is released? | ||
MasterOfChaos
Germany2896 Posts
The first kind is usually not fixed, but can be disabled in the config. Thus it is easier to catch a random public player who has them enabled than it is to catch a ladder player who has safemode enabled. But from time to time even the supposedly safe features leave traces in the replay which flag the finds   | ||
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EnergyTraction
Canada233 Posts
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flag
United States228 Posts
On June 24 2008 04:05 Yank31 wrote: I think hacker is a big name. I mean, do these people encode anything? probably not. Cheater is fine. I agree, to me hacker means hacking something which implies skill, but running a bw hack that someone else wrote doesn't take any. It is just convention though to call them that. On June 24 2008 04:07 Chill wrote: He probably just forgot to respond. He told me about this and I was supposed to give you the WCG USA Spades replays so you can confirm once again that he's a faggot, but I forgot. On June 24 2008 04:09 NonY[rC] wrote: i'm working on collecting some reps from wcg usa Alright send me replays when you're ready. One thing though, did these people actually win anything or place well in tournament? It would be best to only check winners, because by announcing who hacks and who doesn't, hackers could start to piece together which hacks are detectable and which aren't, if there are any. I wouldn't mind checking one for others but results should be kept in closed circle. On June 24 2008 04:51 fusionsdf wrote: yeah and why not just never release the method excpet to trusted tournament admins that way the hackers never know the method used, and it isnt useless come january 2nd Suppose your favorite player got caught, banned etc, and you just had to take my word for it. You'd be pretty pissed off, thinking I'm a liar, have an agenda, or just made a mistake. At least this way you'll know that any wrong will eventually be righted. It's the same reason people want a concrete date that we will be out of Iraq by even though it would be better to just get out as soon and efficiently as possible how ever long that takes. Also this way people can check on their own over replays, I can't easily check all replays that are out there. On June 24 2008 05:20 Dromar wrote: That's a pretty good idea. @Flag: can you estimate how easily they'll be able to patch once your new method is released? It would be pretty easy for them I think. | ||
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Eatme
Switzerland3919 Posts
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Wizard
Poland5055 Posts
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Xeofreestyler
Belgium6774 Posts
After your last method I was thinking the probability of catching hackers would now be a lot lower than before, but here you surprise us yet again! I hope it works well. Good job! | ||
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paper
13196 Posts
On June 24 2008 05:11 Superiorwolf wrote: flag's icon should be a photon cannon or something. A detector, which kills them too! Thanks so much flag!! ![[image loading]](http://img379.imageshack.us/img379/4465/cannonmw5.png) ![[image loading]](http://img170.imageshack.us/img170/1681/flagme0.png) | ||
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Elric
United Kingdom1327 Posts
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Quanticfograw
United States2053 Posts
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ProTech_MediC
United States498 Posts
You should get some people who are familiar with server-side coding (ASP, PHP, JSP, .NET, etc) to help you write a web-based application to check for the hacks. I'm assuming that your new method can be determined mathematically? By setting up a web page where a user can upload the replay, you can keep the source safe, while allowing everyone in the community to use your findings. If any part of this does not make sense, let me know. | ||
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VIB
Brazil3567 Posts
Waiting too much could also be bad because know that they know that there is some catching it. They will prolly try to find holes and eventually find it, and fix it, before we can benefit too much. Anyway great job flag, keep it up | ||
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