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Protoss to Zerg: Day Four
Current iCCup stats: 12-16-0
Not too good, not too bad. I definately thought I'd be doing better, but I learned a lot of things today and I guess that's what counts. What I did encounter today is what I call a lesson game. It's a game where someone happens and I usually notice, "Ohhhh, I am supposed to do _______ instead of ______" and it like totally alters the way I play.
That is the recap I bring to you today.
Recap game:
It's a ZvP and I decide to open with the best build ever: 9 pool speedlings. Oh yeah, the gayness.
When I played P, after scouting this I would usually mutter, 'fuck', because I hated it.
One of the things I like so far is I make six lings, than I kill the probe to make him think I may perhaps go for the rush and I send out a squadron of two zerglings to kill scout probes and I leave the other four at my main to stop ninja-esque probes that may already be on the way, but going another route.
Spartan line 2.0.
A successful probe kill. No scouting for you, haha!
However...
Fuck. My Spartan lines are imcompetent, much like Atrioc.
I make a rather large error here and put my third hatchery at the wrong spot. It's supposed to go to my second natural, not in my main.
Whoops!
Now is a good time explain the build I was trying to do. It was a simple 9pool speedling into three bases and than teching lurkers. This is where I start to learn a lesson...
I have my lurkers burrowed and his army is out and I know his has no detection. I am happy.
Unfortunately...
He fucking dodges me. I am confused. I am sad.
As you can see from the screenshot below, I am the teal army, he is the blue. His army is closer to my base than my own. This is not the ideal situation.
I call this screenshot, "Non I'deal". It means not ideal. I think it's French.
The next screenshots are all taken in a matter of few seconds. All this is simultaneous.
He slightly outnumbers me.
After I shed a tear, I went back to watch the xiaozi replay and I see that what he actually does is only sends a couple lurkers to contain and do damage to the gateway/forge if they are in front, and leaves the rest of the lurkers at home. Next time I won't make this mistake, so nameless Protoss... I thank you. Your still an ass for beating me senseless, but I thank you for it.
General matchup feeling:
ZvP: I feel better about this now, I am starting to feel like I am playing actual ZvP's. I am losing, but it's getting better.
ZvT: I haven't looked at this matchup much, whenever I play, I kind of just do my own thing and it either works or it doesn't. I have to watch some reps first and write down some builds. I am not a big fan of muta really. Maybe I'l be one of those dudes who does lurker builds instead? Is that even viable? idk.
ZvZ: I tried to copy xiaozi in the way he plays. He often makes an early expansion and gets late speed + a lot of zerglings. What this results in is usually a later spire. I tried it once on Python and I lost so badly that I wasn't even mad, just surprised as hell. I need to do some work on this. Anyone have some advice for ZvZ builds?
General mood: Starting to see some progress. Feeling pretty good.
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Calgary26003 Posts
Don't copy Xiaozi. His builds make no sense but he makes them work because he's incredible. He'll do like 9 Pool speed, it gets blocked, then he just makes 3 hatch Zerglings and somehow breaks through Zealots and Cannons behind a Forge/Gateway wall. It doesn't make sense.
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I love the blog mate, lots of good read! 
Been thinking about getting into zerg myself one of these days, just need to find the time..
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haha your screenshots are funny
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lol good luck on your endeavors;
zerg is very fun to use so it'll pay off :o
+ Show Spoiler +hahahaha i just started laughing so fucking hard at my own comment
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Thanks everyone ^^.
@Chill, who would be a good gamer to replicate?
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On June 16 2008 06:28 Chill wrote:
Don't copy Xiaozi. His builds make no sense but he makes them work because he's incredible. He'll do like 9 Pool speed, it gets blocked, then he just makes 3 hatch Zerglings and somehow breaks through Zealots and Cannons behind a Forge/Gateway wall. It doesn't make sense.
Believe in yourself!!!!
@ OP, make it your goal to be as deadly with lings as he is then  . Once your lings become more dangerous your ling builds will then be deadlier!
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lol salv, make it longer next time. rofl @ the screens.
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haha very funny writing  will read again
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Thanks for the tip Roman.
Tomorrows will be much longer Raithed because it will include games from now until the afternoon.
Thanks besiger New one everyday
Also, if anyone knows of a good Zerg player who plays rather safe, let me know! I take Chill at his word when he says XiaoZi isn't the best person to replicate.
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Very nice read once again, keep it up.
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Thanks a lot. Will do. Check back tomorrow around this time.
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On June 16 2008 07:32 Salv wrote:Thanks for the tip Roman. Tomorrows will be much longer Raithed because it will include games from now until the afternoon. Thanks besiger New one everyday Also, if anyone knows of a good Zerg player who plays rather safe, let me know! I take Chill at his word when he says XiaoZi isn't the best person to replicate.
When players like ZerG~LegenD, w3jjj, Ahzzz post replays, download them asap! I'd recommend Castro, HayprO, Mondragon reps for very macro based, safe play.
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Dude keep this up. I haven't ICCUP'd in a week or so, but I will once exams are over. Love the reports with pictures and shit. Really entertaining. BTW, wise choice switching to Zerg =D
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ROFL SALV <3
btw, excello.oo is a great zerg, he's korean btw. I can show you a rep of him, he was gns.i-oov.
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<3 Shallow. I'l download Haypro and Castro right now. I was going to do Mondi, but he doesn't ZvZ often and his ZvP basically consists of the hilariously awesome zergling micro!
Thanks JiJi , check back tomorrow.
Awwww, oov left? Too bad. Yeah, hit me up with some reps Yang.
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Good luck! I wanted to try Z but way too hard for me to keep up.
Very impressive =)
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lurk builds aren't viable as much anymore because everyone has really good marine micro. T_T.
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For straight up macro Z games, get ParanOid's reps
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Thanks for the tip Artanis. That's lucky too, I downloaded a bunch of Gosia reppies and it won't let me DL anything else for awhile. I was mad because I couldn't get Haypro or Castro. You've put me at ease
I never thought of that Zalfor, but your most likely right. I guess besides a lurker drop build, mutalisks are the best bet.
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I will always be looking out for your next blog post whenever I get home from work.
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good post
i've always considered switching from t to z hmm
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United States1866 Posts
On June 16 2008 06:25 Salv wrote:
Fuck. My Spartan lines are imcompetent, much like Atrioc.
THIS MEANS WAR
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YEP I GUESS SO.
EDIT; Just saw the picture. Son of a bitch.
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haha those screenshots made me laugh
Watch some mondragon reps :D probably the best foreign zerg
Also Zerg~Legend has a nice zvp guide and Superiorwold has a nice beginners guide to zvp
chill has some fpvids that might help
I recomend you watch those
good luck with with zerg
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Totally forgot about Chill's FPVods. Thanks for the reminder!
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Keep the blogging up, you really make me crack up every single time! And all the best to you, hopefully you'll become a decent Zerg soon, because there's just too many Protosses around..
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These blog entries are entertaining as hell. Keep this writing style up! :D
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