Through some of the conversations that have occurred on TL, I know that there are some runners out there. Is there anyone that also enjoys watching / following the college and or professional scene?
Today the NCAA championships are going to be on CBS - which should be a lot of fun to watch. I'm most excited that a kid I ran against in high school made the finals for the 1500 meters - should be really fun to watch him run on tv.
Besides the NCAAs, the olympic trials start the 26th of June and will be aired on USA and NBC which is also pretty amazing.
Kind of off topic, but on track, should I be running long distances or short spurts to best increase my stamina? I'm also trying to learn how to make fast bursts of speed for basketball, so how should I mix it up? I'm overweight, about 5"8 and 190-195 lbs, and i heard it's bad to run too much wehn you're overweight.
i probably wont watch much. just the 800m where im cheering for jacob hernandez. but he got disqualified at regionals in the 800 so i guess he won't be at the national meet, but likely the olympic trials. and is the DMR run at outdoor nationals? he'd be on that.
oh and if any duke runners made it i guess i cheer for them too ^.^ but not bother to watch
On June 15 2008 03:21 NonY[rC] wrote: i probably wont watch much. just the 800m where im cheering for jacob hernandez. but he got disqualified at regionals in the 800 so i guess he won't be at the national meet, but likely the olympic trials. and is the DMR run at outdoor nationals? he'd be on that.
oh and if any duke runners made it i guess i cheer for them too ^.^ but not bother to watch
I don't really know a lot of the 800 guys - but I know that 8 guys between 1:47 and 1:48 should be a pretty incredible race. Hernnadez is running and is the #2 seed at 1:47.18 .
DMR is not on the agenda of races for today, so I would presume it def isn't being ran.
On June 15 2008 03:20 ilovezil wrote: Kind of off topic, but on track, should I be running long distances or short spurts to best increase my stamina? I'm also trying to learn how to make fast bursts of speed for basketball, so how should I mix it up? I'm overweight, about 5"8 and 190-195 lbs, and i heard it's bad to run too much wehn you're overweight.
The only way I see running too much being bad for you if you are overweight would fall under the same category of running too much even if you are in shape - if you're body can't handle it it just can't handle it. Most of the time if you are overweight it isn't that you shouldn't run that much its that you can't run that much.
If you are mainly wanting to get better spurts for basketball, cross training would probably be the best. You can run a couple miles a day for stamina but do agility workouts to get your bursts up.
On June 15 2008 03:32 Seraphim wrote: I live in Corvallis, Oregon and that's an hour's away from Eugene, so I'll be at the Trials at least
Wow I'm so jealous. Its alway been a dream of mine to come out to Eugene and watch the prefontaine classic. That would be so awesome. As far for running today - its on tv from 1-3 Pacific time on CBS. Just turn in on.
My friend went to the Prefontaine Classic and he saw a few world records being broken (10k if I remember correctly), and he also said he watched a girl run a low 4 minute 1500. Pretty insane. I got a ticket to one day in the olympic trials (June 28th), so I hope that it's a good day
A BUNCH of my friends have tickets to EVERYday which is fucking imba.
hmmmmm ok i didnt remember exactly what he said as we were playing halo while talking ~_~ but i looked it up and he got dq'd at the indoor championships and he ran a 1:45 at outdoor regionals. i dunno why they seed him as 1:47
On June 15 2008 03:40 Seraphim wrote: My friend went to the Prefontaine Classic and he saw a few world records being broken (10k if I remember correctly), and he also said he watched a girl run a low 4 minute 1500. Pretty insane. I got a ticket to one day in the olympic trials (June 28th), so I hope that it's a good day
A BUNCH of my friends have tickets to EVERYday which is fucking imba.
Yah it is - it is one of my lifetime goals to go to the actual olympics. I'm shooting for 2012 in London, but I don't know if that would be realistic.
As far as the 28th - looks like it should be an okay day. You'll get to see the 800m semis and the the 400M Hurdle finals. The 800 semis for me would be worth it to watch.
ok i looked through all the start lists and none of my friends made it through guess i'll just catch the 800m like i said. expecting jacob to rape it :O
On June 15 2008 03:48 NonY[rC] wrote: ok i looked through all the start lists and none of my friends made it through guess i'll just catch the 800m like i said. expecting jacob to rape it :O
Also from your previous post - they had qualifying - so I'm assuming that 1:47 is what he ran to get into the finals.
I live in South Carolina now. I used to live in Illinois - but I'm getting married in 2 months and my fiancee got an internship and I got a job - so this is where we are.
I came out of high school, gave up running and put on 80 lbs. I'm working on getting back into it now, but I'll probably try to just marathon if I can ever get there.
In highschool I ran the 800 mainly. I ended up running sub 2 5 times, with a P.R. of 1:58.4 - I think I could have went a lot faster - I was due for a good race, it just never came. Off of my 800 training I ran 51.5 in a time trial for the quarter, so thats not too bad.
The only time I ran the mile really was as a freshman - I ran 4:56 but never really ran it again. I think I ran 4:50.x in a relay once, but before I moved up to the chicago suburbs for my last 2 years of highschool, we didn't really take track that seriously so our coach didn't take splits.
On June 15 2008 03:48 NonY[rC] wrote: ok i looked through all the start lists and none of my friends made it through guess i'll just catch the 800m like i said. expecting jacob to rape it :O
well he won but holy shit what a move by wheating almost got the race.
Almost a month ago I ran 4:48, my best time yet, and got second last in my heat. I was amased at how weak my run was. After the race, I vowed to myself that I would train like a motherfucker and rip it up the following year.
Around the same time I also saw Hicham El Geurrouj set the world record in the mile and gold in Athens for the 1500m, and I was inspired. The man was a machine (and then later I find out the bad ass also won gold in 5000m just 'cause he could). I have his 1500m in Athens as my homepage to be awed every time I open Firefox (which is a lot).
I plan to drop my 1500m time by 48 seconds to 4:00. I picked the time because it's a sexy number and also beats the record at the same meet my ass was handed to me in. I don't know if I can make the goal, but I do know that I can work for it. I'm posting this and telling as many people about this so that if I do give up you can all call me a lair and fuck face. I won't give up though
Enough about me, while watching Hicham's record in the mile, I though the race was really strange. The pace setters didn't actually run the race, they were just there for Hicham. The rest of the runners seemed to be running the race seriously though. So, I ask, are world record things like this planed as world record attempts, or are they actual meets that just happen to have the world records? Video included.
Hicham's record in the mile that my question refers to:
Hicham's beautiful 1500m Gold in Athens (in case you've not seen it):
In meets even where world record attempts aren't going down, they have pace setters. Almost every professional meet I've seen has had one. However, I still think most world record attempts (at least for distance) are generally determined before hand whether they are going to go for it.
As for his beautiful 1500 in Athens, I think it is more so than you know. When El G was dominating the world and setting his WR, the olympics escaped him. He had never won the olympics up until his 2004 run.
He did win the 5k just cause he is a badass, but he isn't the real badass at the 5k. Bekele is so much more of a badass at the 5k and 10k.
Best of luck to you to in training. 4:00 for the 1500 is quite fast.
One more edit - if you want some inspiration from a HS runner, watch Alan Webb's HS Record Mile.
The mile record was the first race of his I saw. I believe I opened a tab for an Athens video first, but the quality was horrible. As I found out more about Hicham I became even more amased.
Missing Sydney must have been quite a thing for him. I believe in the Athens video they mention he cried after getting silver. He also cries at the end of Athens. He looks like a very emotional runner. I'm very happy that he got both golds :D (although this is a little after the fact)
I didn't mean to say that Hicham was the most bad ass in 5k, just that he's a total bad ass all around. I can't really say much about Bekele because I don't follow much running, so you'll have to tell me about him
Also, with the pace setters, do they generally drop out after a few laps from the exertion?
The next race, the mens 1500M - watch for Evan Jager, he's a freshman from Wisconsin. When I was a senior he was just a freshman, he ran 10:00 in the 2mi indoors with a hurt foot.
I run XC at my school in Florida, we've made states 12 years in a row. I don't really follow any sort of running except if it concerns Ryan Hall; he's such a badass :D
On June 15 2008 06:10 Kwidowmaker wrote: The mile record was the first race of his I saw. I believe I opened a tab for an Athens video first, but the quality was horrible. As I found out more about Hicham I became even more amased.
Missing Sydney must have been quite a thing for him. I believe in the Athens video they mention he cried after getting silver. He also cries at the end of Athens. He looks like a very emotional runner. I'm very happy that he got both golds :D (although this is a little after the fact)
I didn't mean to say that Hicham was the most bad ass in 5k, just that he's a total bad ass all around. I can't really say much about Bekele because I don't follow much running, so you'll have to tell me about him
Also, with the pace setters, do they generally drop out after a few laps from the exertion?
The pace setters generally drop out because all they are paid to do is to set the pace, most of them would probably do okay in the race, but their sole purpose is just to take the race out at a certain time. Once they do that, they drop out, collect their money after the race, and all is good.
On June 15 2008 06:13 DanceCommander wrote: I run XC at my school in Florida, we've made states 12 years in a row. I don't really follow any sort of running except if it concerns Ryan Hall; he's such a badass :D
Totally agree - Ryan Hall is my highest hope for the Olympics. If he could pull a gold that would be so amazing. Anyone who runs a 2:06 as their third ( i think ) marathon is a total stud.
Whoa. What a sick vid, berated. That must have been incredible for Webb, and mad respect to him for running that fast and with El Geurrouj, none the less.
I think if anything that video put down my hopes a bit, and made me realise just how fast 4:00 is. After watching the Olympians get under 3:40, 4:00 seemed completely reasonable. Fuck that though, I'll fight for it :D
On June 15 2008 03:20 ilovezil wrote: Kind of off topic, but on track, should I be running long distances or short spurts to best increase my stamina? I'm also trying to learn how to make fast bursts of speed for basketball, so how should I mix it up? I'm overweight, about 5"8 and 190-195 lbs, and i heard it's bad to run too much wehn you're overweight.
The only way I see running too much being bad for you if you are overweight would fall under the same category of running too much even if you are in shape - if you're body can't handle it it just can't handle it. Most of the time if you are overweight it isn't that you shouldn't run that much its that you can't run that much.
If you are mainly wanting to get better spurts for basketball, cross training would probably be the best. You can run a couple miles a day for stamina but do agility workouts to get your bursts up.
ankles, doh. And ilovezil i would suggest you heading for sherdog and reading up on intervals, tabata system and the like.
On June 15 2008 03:20 ilovezil wrote: Kind of off topic, but on track, should I be running long distances or short spurts to best increase my stamina? I'm also trying to learn how to make fast bursts of speed for basketball, so how should I mix it up? I'm overweight, about 5"8 and 190-195 lbs, and i heard it's bad to run too much wehn you're overweight.
You are severely over weight for your height, you should be doing long distance to increase your stamina and cut back on you food consumptions. I'm 5'7 and I used to weigh close to 170lbs, now I'm 145 buffed up. For sprinters, at 5'9, 5'10, 170lbs would be massive already.