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niteReloaded
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Croatia5282 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-06-11 12:38:21
June 11 2008 11:23 GMT
#1
sup

TL has been my #1 url to visit in the past ~3-4 years.
Lately I've been visiting it much less frequently than before. The passion is gone, in fact TRUE passion was gone for like 2 years now, but I kept visiting the site out of habit and quite frankly, there's no better place to waste time than here.
But, I must admit, lately, TL has slipped down on the top-list of my websites. Nowadays it's more like "shit, what's up on TL I haven't been there a few days". Then I visit the site and I'm not impressed anymore. Threads for wasting time in General forum, then there's the SC2 forum I visited perhaps 3 times altogether, broodwar forum with mundane SC things, tourneys I'm not interested anymore and Strategy forum which might as well be replaced with a search function in it's place.

So, what's the reason for this?
First of all, as I said, I think as I'm getting older (21 now) it's perfectly natural to lose interest in gaming related stuff. But, my problem was that I was stuck in this loop of visiting TL and spending so many hours around here even tho I knew I should be doing something else. I just didn't know how to make the first step.

A few of you who have stumbled upon my blog entry about Dr. Paul Dobransky's stuff know what happened. I got into self-growth.

These past years, I've always had the idea that I would make a forum with a layout as perfect as TL's, but with the content of a higher purpose. A place where people would be able to discuss problems with wise folks. Instead of getting advice on how to handle 14 Nex, you would get advice on how to handle your relationship. Instead of learning to fix mistakes in your FD opening, you would learn to cure the anger, insecurities and mistakes you make in your life. You would learn how to achieve your maximum potential as a human being.

The forum over at http://doctorpaul.net/joomla/forum2.html is what I've been dreaming about and looking for. I can't describe to you guys how much I've changed in the last month or so. I've started journaling coz the guys advised me to, and when I look at my writings from even as little as 3-4days, I notice myself chaning my thinking paradigms all the time. I'm constantly discovering new problems, stuff that I've been looking at from a totally wrong angle and learning to make it right.
I've learned that I'm not a perfect human, I've learned to face my flaws and then work on them.

Dr. Paul says that only people with low self-esteem are capable of insulting people, giving negative remarks etc. No matter how bad you think your problem is, people will give you positive insights, stuff that will make you think out of your normal thinking routine, stuff that you can use to break free. If your anything like me, you might find yourself laughing out loud as you read the responses at your issues, realizing how limited your view of the world was. There are some extremely mature and wise folks over there, it's a sin not to learn from them ^^

I don't know exactly why I am writing this, I guess I wanted to let people (who might be in a similar situation I was) know that there's an awesome place, perhaps even better(depending on your current interests) than TL. A forum better than TL, "no way!" I would say even 3 months ago.

If you want to grow as a person, if you want it more than you want to grow in ICC rank, ask yourself, are you acting according to your goals?

There it is guys, I hope some of you will have the same great paradigm changes and insights as I have on those forums. I even have a txt file with the most golden posts from the people from that forum. So many useful things you can learn.

If you feel like you are not living the life you _know_ you can and _should_ be living, but don't know where to start, you can do what I did, or find a way to make the first step.
Here's a nice quote a user named diezel wrote 2 days ago:
diezel wrote:
Failing to take risks and always learning from the experience of others puts you in the back of the bus and never in the driver's seat. There's only one real way to live and that is in first person, not from someone else's viewpoint. Here and now - present tense - first person - singular. Taste the blood from your own lip once in a while and you'll have much less fear of the big guy in the alley compared to the guy who has read about it all his life.



As for myself, I'll keep playing SC for fun, at least a game or two per week, but I think I finally reached a point where I can stop visiting TL.

TY for all the fun times, cheers guys!
(don't have time to proofread, I hope not too many mistakes)

**
Ancestral
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States3230 Posts
June 11 2008 11:26 GMT
#2
Hmm, I'm going to college. I think that's pretty good for self growth.
The Nature and purpose of the martial way are universal; all selfish desires must be roasted in the tempering fires of hard training. - Masutatsu Oyama
ZZangDreamjOy
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
Canada959 Posts
June 11 2008 11:36 GMT
#3
Blasphemy.
Nothing's better then TL.
Ban
HitEmUp
KrAzYfoOL
Profile Blog Joined September 2005
Australia3037 Posts
June 11 2008 11:50 GMT
#4
well if i was that keen to live life to the fullest, i'd stop using the internet..
i mean c'mon there are so many new things going on with tl.net to make it THAT much more exciting, such as TL.net attack and perhaps a second TSL.
I've too been visiting this site for a good 3-4 years, and i most certainly can't say that TL.net currently is worse than it was in its previous years, the forum evolves and changes as you would naturally expect.
It's better to burn out than to fade away
Raithed
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
China7078 Posts
June 11 2008 12:11 GMT
#5
i come here for hw help.
it rocks. =D
vGl-CoW
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
Belgium8305 Posts
June 11 2008 12:17 GMT
#6
so this paul jerk is siphoning members from us

we'll just see about that...
Moderatorfollow me on twitter if u think ur so tough @BooyaCow
Equinox_kr
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
United States7395 Posts
June 11 2008 12:36 GMT
#7
On June 11 2008 21:17 vGl-CoW wrote:
so this paul jerk is siphoning members from us

we'll just see about that...


rofl

and to the op
^-^
niteReloaded
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Croatia5282 Posts
June 11 2008 12:36 GMT
#8
On June 11 2008 20:50 KrAzYfoOL wrote:
well if i was that keen to live life to the fullest, i'd stop using the internet..
i mean c'mon there are so many new things going on with tl.net to make it THAT much more exciting, such as TL.net attack and perhaps a second TSL.
I've too been visiting this site for a good 3-4 years, and i most certainly can't say that TL.net currently is worse than it was in its previous years, the forum evolves and changes as you would naturally expect.

I'm not saying TL got worse, the point is I evolved.

I thought it would raise a few eyebrows when I said TL is not good enough for me anymore.
Ancestral
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States3230 Posts
June 11 2008 12:56 GMT
#9
On June 11 2008 21:36 niteReloaded wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 11 2008 20:50 KrAzYfoOL wrote:
well if i was that keen to live life to the fullest, i'd stop using the internet..
i mean c'mon there are so many new things going on with tl.net to make it THAT much more exciting, such as TL.net attack and perhaps a second TSL.
I've too been visiting this site for a good 3-4 years, and i most certainly can't say that TL.net currently is worse than it was in its previous years, the forum evolves and changes as you would naturally expect.

I'm not saying TL got worse, the point is I evolved.

I thought it would raise a few eyebrows when I said TL is not good enough for me anymore.

Sounds like Scientology. It's probably pretty similar.
The Nature and purpose of the martial way are universal; all selfish desires must be roasted in the tempering fires of hard training. - Masutatsu Oyama
yubee
Profile Blog Joined May 2006
United States3826 Posts
June 11 2008 13:28 GMT
#10
good luck!
niteReloaded
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Croatia5282 Posts
June 11 2008 13:47 GMT
#11
On June 11 2008 21:56 Ancestral wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 11 2008 21:36 niteReloaded wrote:
On June 11 2008 20:50 KrAzYfoOL wrote:
well if i was that keen to live life to the fullest, i'd stop using the internet..
i mean c'mon there are so many new things going on with tl.net to make it THAT much more exciting, such as TL.net attack and perhaps a second TSL.
I've too been visiting this site for a good 3-4 years, and i most certainly can't say that TL.net currently is worse than it was in its previous years, the forum evolves and changes as you would naturally expect.

I'm not saying TL got worse, the point is I evolved.

I thought it would raise a few eyebrows when I said TL is not good enough for me anymore.

Sounds like Scientology. It's probably pretty similar.

isn't it cool to know everything without actually knowing anything?
aqui
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Germany1023 Posts
June 11 2008 14:08 GMT
#12
On June 11 2008 21:36 niteReloaded wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 11 2008 20:50 KrAzYfoOL wrote:
well if i was that keen to live life to the fullest, i'd stop using the internet..
i mean c'mon there are so many new things going on with tl.net to make it THAT much more exciting, such as TL.net attack and perhaps a second TSL.
I've too been visiting this site for a good 3-4 years, and i most certainly can't say that TL.net currently is worse than it was in its previous years, the forum evolves and changes as you would naturally expect.

I'm not saying TL got worse, the point is I evolved.

I thought it would raise a few eyebrows when I said TL is not good enough for me anymore.

of course it does, its sound like quite an insult for the people who are not as evolved as you yet.
niteReloaded
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Croatia5282 Posts
June 11 2008 14:15 GMT
#13
On June 11 2008 23:08 aqui wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 11 2008 21:36 niteReloaded wrote:
On June 11 2008 20:50 KrAzYfoOL wrote:
well if i was that keen to live life to the fullest, i'd stop using the internet..
i mean c'mon there are so many new things going on with tl.net to make it THAT much more exciting, such as TL.net attack and perhaps a second TSL.
I've too been visiting this site for a good 3-4 years, and i most certainly can't say that TL.net currently is worse than it was in its previous years, the forum evolves and changes as you would naturally expect.

I'm not saying TL got worse, the point is I evolved.

I thought it would raise a few eyebrows when I said TL is not good enough for me anymore.

of course it does, its sound like quite an insult for the people who are not as evolved as you yet.

So if you think of it as an insult i.e. you are lower status than me, wouldn't the right reaction be to want to learn what I learned?

damn, I sound really spooky...
Chill
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
Calgary26003 Posts
June 11 2008 14:18 GMT
#14
Good luck, and enjoy looking down on us.
Moderator
aqui
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Germany1023 Posts
June 11 2008 14:22 GMT
#15
dont get me wrong, im not saying you want to insult anyone.
But yes, you would be right if you evolved above tl, people here should try to close the cap.
HeavOnEarth
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States7087 Posts
June 11 2008 14:27 GMT
#16
On June 11 2008 23:18 Chill wrote:
Good luck, and enjoy looking down on us.


but he isn't going to read our comments
CAUSE HES LEAVING FOREVERR
"come korea next time... FXO house... 10 korean, 10 korean"
RoC)Ninjah
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States238 Posts
June 11 2008 14:34 GMT
#17
I'm still a bit confused on how you "outgrew" TL.net, I'd think it's more due to just coming here all the time... But still, gl.
Much will win a title before his hair turns grey.
ilovezil
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
United States4143 Posts
June 11 2008 14:46 GMT
#18

Dr. Paul says that only people with low self-esteem are capable of insulting people, giving negative remarks etc


#1 - Dr. Paul says, huh? Sounds a bit of a cultish follow the leader type of thing to me.

#2 - ONLY people with low self-esteem are capable of insulting people and giving negative remarks? Har har, good joke, Dr. paul!
JudgeMathis
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
Cuba1286 Posts
June 11 2008 14:54 GMT
#19
I insult people everyday. I guess I have low self esteem. :[
Benching 225 is light weight. Soy Cubano y Boricua!
quirinus
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Croatia2489 Posts
June 11 2008 14:59 GMT
#20
good luck man.

I totally understand you.

try to maintain balance though, don't overdo it.
All candles lit within him, and there was purity. | First auto-promoted BW LP editor.
gwho
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United States632 Posts
June 11 2008 15:06 GMT
#21
david deanglo is good too.

but i don't agree with some of his stuff morally.
Nazarene
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
Denmark996 Posts
June 11 2008 16:09 GMT
#22
It's so incredibly stupid to spend time reading how to 'improve yourself' lal
How about getting out in real life instead?
gawd, I'm sick and tired of all those self-improvement gurus.
SwaY.
Profile Joined May 2008
Dominican Republic98 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-06-11 16:19:22
June 11 2008 16:19 GMT
#23
I dont know wether to be sad or happy for you.
HypnoticPoo
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Singapore291 Posts
June 11 2008 16:49 GMT
#24
Bye, we will miss you! + Show Spoiler +
NOT.
MEOW.
niteReloaded
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Croatia5282 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-06-11 16:55:02
June 11 2008 16:50 GMT
#25
On June 11 2008 23:34 RoC)Ninjah wrote:
I'm still a bit confused on how you "outgrew" TL.net, I'd think it's more due to just coming here all the time... But still, gl.

I realized spending time on TL is wasting it. There's much more to life than video games no matter how perfect they are. It's still gaming, at least outside of korea.

On June 11 2008 23:59 quirinus wrote:
good luck man.

I totally understand you.

try to maintain balance though, don't overdo it.

thx man, I'll try to not go crazy.

On June 12 2008 01:09 Nazarene wrote:
It's so incredibly stupid to spend time reading how to 'improve yourself' lal
How about getting out in real life instead?
gawd, I'm sick and tired of all those self-improvement gurus.

It only seems stupid if you think you reached a certain level, and you think that you are 'all that'.

One step at the time.
A smart person will always try to learn at least some theory before putting stuff to action.
I already did make some concrete changes, but I'm still just starting.
But you are right, actions are the only thing that counts.

Also, why are you tired of them? These guys are pretty wise, experienced etc. Everyone can learn at least something.
niteReloaded
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Croatia5282 Posts
June 11 2008 16:53 GMT
#26
On June 12 2008 01:49 HypnoticPoo wrote:
Bye, we will miss you! + Show Spoiler +
NOT.

HA HA HA, you are so funny!

+ Show Spoiler +
what? you thought I was gonna say NOT?
thoraxe
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
United States1449 Posts
June 11 2008 17:09 GMT
#27

Dr. Paul says that only people with low self-esteem are capable of insulting people, giving negative remarks etc

I think someone's hating on Inc (singsong)
Obama singing "Kick Ass" Song: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yghFBt-fXmw&feature=player_embedde
niteReloaded
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Croatia5282 Posts
June 11 2008 17:53 GMT
#28
On June 12 2008 02:09 thoraxe wrote:
Show nested quote +

Dr. Paul says that only people with low self-esteem are capable of insulting people, giving negative remarks etc

I think someone's hating on Inc (singsong)

I dont like Inc I openly admit it, I even dissed him a few times.

I never said my road of improvement has come to an end, tho. I just started.
Bub
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
United States3518 Posts
June 11 2008 18:00 GMT
#29
Can't say I agree on everything Dr Paul says, but eh, good luck.
XK ßubonic
iNcontroL *
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
USA29055 Posts
June 11 2008 19:28 GMT
#30
On June 12 2008 02:53 niteReloaded wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 12 2008 02:09 thoraxe wrote:

Dr. Paul says that only people with low self-esteem are capable of insulting people, giving negative remarks etc

I think someone's hating on Inc (singsong)

I dont like Inc I openly admit it, I even dissed him a few times.

I never said my road of improvement has come to an end, tho. I just started.



"even openly dissed hima few times"

But what would Dr.Paul say about that? Obviously you pick-and-choose when his teachings suit you correct? You dislike me yet you utilize that which you claim creates the dislike against me. Odd, I believe Dr.Paul and various other people with a relatively expanded vocabulary would call that "hypocrisy." See, you suffer from the delusion that somehow finger pointing or projecting your blame will absolve you from it. Fact of the matter is you are just as bad as me. This thread and its faulty "announcement" are testament to that fact.

As Chill said, good luck and enjoy looking down on us. Dr.Paul would probably call you a hypocrite and a egotsistical problem child.
fight_or_flight
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States3988 Posts
June 11 2008 19:58 GMT
#31
Everyone who is taking offense at this or think he is looking down on you is misguided imo. TL is just a community of people with similar interests. His interests have changed to something else and he is sharing it with us.

If all of you are happy with the way you are thats good, others who aren't may wish to change in some way, and it seems like thats what he is doing.
Do you really want chat rooms?
Hypnosis
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States2061 Posts
June 11 2008 20:34 GMT
#32
On June 12 2008 01:50 niteReloaded wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 11 2008 23:34 RoC)Ninjah wrote:
I'm still a bit confused on how you "outgrew" TL.net, I'd think it's more due to just coming here all the time... But still, gl.

I realized spending time on TL is wasting it. There's much more to life than video games no matter how perfect they are. It's still gaming, at least outside of korea.

Show nested quote +
On June 11 2008 23:59 quirinus wrote:
good luck man.

I totally understand you.

try to maintain balance though, don't overdo it.

thx man, I'll try to not go crazy.

Show nested quote +
On June 12 2008 01:09 Nazarene wrote:
It's so incredibly stupid to spend time reading how to 'improve yourself' lal
How about getting out in real life instead?
gawd, I'm sick and tired of all those self-improvement gurus.

It only seems stupid if you think you reached a certain level, and you think that you are 'all that'.

One step at the time.
A smart person will always try to learn at least some theory before putting stuff to action.
I already did make some concrete changes, but I'm still just starting.
But you are right, actions are the only thing that counts.

Also, why are you tired of them? These guys are pretty wise, experienced etc. Everyone can learn at least something.


Well the reason its stupid is because you should probably try to improve yourself without outside help. I mean if you take other peopels advice ALL the time for "self-improvement" enough said..

but its good to take in all ideas, just spend more time outside of the internwets.
Science without religion is lame, Religion without science is blind
niteReloaded
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Croatia5282 Posts
June 11 2008 21:31 GMT
#33
On June 12 2008 04:28 {88}iNcontroL wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 12 2008 02:53 niteReloaded wrote:
On June 12 2008 02:09 thoraxe wrote:

Dr. Paul says that only people with low self-esteem are capable of insulting people, giving negative remarks etc

I think someone's hating on Inc (singsong)

I dont like Inc I openly admit it, I even dissed him a few times.

I never said my road of improvement has come to an end, tho. I just started.



"even openly dissed hima few times"

But what would Dr.Paul say about that? Obviously you pick-and-choose when his teachings suit you correct? You dislike me yet you utilize that which you claim creates the dislike against me. Odd, I believe Dr.Paul and various other people with a relatively expanded vocabulary would call that "hypocrisy." See, you suffer from the delusion that somehow finger pointing or projecting your blame will absolve you from it. Fact of the matter is you are just as bad as me. This thread and its faulty "announcement" are testament to that fact.

As Chill said, good luck and enjoy looking down on us. Dr.Paul would probably call you a hypocrite and a egotsistical problem child.

Me admitting that I was offensive towards you was me admitting that I am also a person with self-esteem issues. See? Usually when you don't like someone, it's something about yourself that you detect in other person that makes you 'go off', and you start bad-mouthing. It's true what you said, but you didn't notice that I did realize that already.

On June 12 2008 04:58 fight_or_flight wrote:
Everyone who is taking offense at this or think he is looking down on you is misguided imo. TL is just a community of people with similar interests. His interests have changed to something else and he is sharing it with us.

If all of you are happy with the way you are thats good, others who aren't may wish to change in some way, and it seems like thats what he is doing.

Yeah, ty man.

On June 12 2008 05:34 Hypnosis wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 12 2008 01:50 niteReloaded wrote:
On June 11 2008 23:34 RoC)Ninjah wrote:
I'm still a bit confused on how you "outgrew" TL.net, I'd think it's more due to just coming here all the time... But still, gl.

I realized spending time on TL is wasting it. There's much more to life than video games no matter how perfect they are. It's still gaming, at least outside of korea.

On June 11 2008 23:59 quirinus wrote:
good luck man.

I totally understand you.

try to maintain balance though, don't overdo it.

thx man, I'll try to not go crazy.

On June 12 2008 01:09 Nazarene wrote:
It's so incredibly stupid to spend time reading how to 'improve yourself' lal
How about getting out in real life instead?
gawd, I'm sick and tired of all those self-improvement gurus.

It only seems stupid if you think you reached a certain level, and you think that you are 'all that'.

One step at the time.
A smart person will always try to learn at least some theory before putting stuff to action.
I already did make some concrete changes, but I'm still just starting.
But you are right, actions are the only thing that counts.

Also, why are you tired of them? These guys are pretty wise, experienced etc. Everyone can learn at least something.


Well the reason its stupid is because you should probably try to improve yourself without outside help. I mean if you take other peopels advice ALL the time for "self-improvement" enough said..

but its good to take in all ideas, just spend more time outside of the internwets.

You claim that a 21 yr old guy has more knowledge than experienced 30+ yr olds whom other people find wise? Why is it wrong to take advice from others as long as you don't follow it blindly?

Of course I take everything with a pinch of salt, I've seen teachings of some gurus which I didn't find complete, so I discarded them.
Doctorasul
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
Romania1145 Posts
June 11 2008 22:11 GMT
#34
You will grow by leaving TL. You will grow even more by later returning to it. And EVEN MORE when you'll leave it for the second time! I'm at level 9 right now, will be leaving soon to hit 10.

Nah man, I'm teasing, you're cool. Good luck and don't forget to enjoy yourself. (traitor)
"I believe in Spinoza's god who reveals himself in the harmony of all that exists, but not in a god who concerns himself with the fate and actions of human beings." - Albert Einstein
nofAcedAgent
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States952 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-06-11 22:29:25
June 11 2008 22:29 GMT
#35
On June 12 2008 07:11 Doctorasul wrote:
You will grow by leaving TL. You will grow even more by later returning to it. And EVEN MORE when you'll leave it for the second time! I'm at level 9 right now, will be leaving soon to hit 10.


hahaah....

I give you a year (and thats being extremley generous)

...GL
Centric
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States1989 Posts
June 12 2008 01:08 GMT
#36
Hahaha...didn't TL.net help you get those Dr. Paul DVDs/CDs in the first place?

Irony, much?
Super serious.
Ancestral
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States3230 Posts
June 12 2008 02:10 GMT
#37
On June 11 2008 22:47 niteReloaded wrote:
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On June 11 2008 21:56 Ancestral wrote:
On June 11 2008 21:36 niteReloaded wrote:
On June 11 2008 20:50 KrAzYfoOL wrote:
well if i was that keen to live life to the fullest, i'd stop using the internet..
i mean c'mon there are so many new things going on with tl.net to make it THAT much more exciting, such as TL.net attack and perhaps a second TSL.
I've too been visiting this site for a good 3-4 years, and i most certainly can't say that TL.net currently is worse than it was in its previous years, the forum evolves and changes as you would naturally expect.

I'm not saying TL got worse, the point is I evolved.

I thought it would raise a few eyebrows when I said TL is not good enough for me anymore.

Sounds like Scientology. It's probably pretty similar.

isn't it cool to know everything without actually knowing anything?

I don't know, you tell me. LOL.
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clazziquai
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
6685 Posts
June 12 2008 02:13 GMT
#38
Can't stop ya! I hope you had your fair share of fun at TL! =] I understand why you're losing interest though aha. Good luck with your future!

I hope I don't lose interest in TL too. I love this site right now...my addiction on the Internet ><
But please do visit a lot! ^^
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niteReloaded
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Croatia5282 Posts
June 12 2008 10:56 GMT
#39
On June 12 2008 10:08 Centric wrote:
Hahaha...didn't TL.net help you get those Dr. Paul DVDs/CDs in the first place?

Irony, much?

yep, TL showed good will, but I decided not to go for it, I obtained them in other ways... :|
Chill
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
Calgary26003 Posts
June 12 2008 13:13 GMT
#40
Dr. Paul would not be impressed with your piracy.
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niteReloaded
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Croatia5282 Posts
June 12 2008 13:52 GMT
#41
On June 12 2008 22:13 Chill wrote:
Dr. Paul would not be impressed with your piracy.

nor would he be impressed with my financial situation.
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