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Spyder
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
176 Posts
June 09 2008 17:09 GMT
#1
I opened a blog entry coz i didnt want to pollute the broodwar forum

So, im originally a protoss player, i'm currently D+ on iccup and i plan to continue playing that race....but some friends told me that i should change race to terran coz i have a terran style of playing...well you know i'm not really willing to start from the beginning again...but i wanna hear TL.net's opinion...what do you think do i need to change race ?i thought a bit about it and i like the terran race...that's why i'm indecided

P.S: my terran would probably be D- on iccup and i would probably go 0-10 streak

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.kaz
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
1963 Posts
June 09 2008 17:14 GMT
#2
Just offrace vs people every now and then casually and see how you like it.
Pressure - "rock is the defender of justice" 이병민 / 박영민 Hwaiting~
thedeadhaji *
Profile Blog Joined January 2006
39489 Posts
June 09 2008 17:19 GMT
#3
P->Tshould be easier than P->Z
SnowFantasy
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
4173 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-06-09 17:26:36
June 09 2008 17:26 GMT
#4
What reason do you have to change races (other than a friends suggestion)?
gwho
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United States632 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-06-09 17:31:24
June 09 2008 17:30 GMT
#5
well we should probably hear what ur friend has to say about why he thinks ur a terran style ploayer and your opinion on the matter first. and also what do you think are your strengths and weaknesses in your playstyle. we do not know u. we can only say protoss is like this and terran is like that. and that won't help u as much. u already know that much info.
Spyder
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
176 Posts
June 09 2008 17:32 GMT
#6
well....he said that i'm too passive....and that that would perfectly fit playing terran....that's it, naturally i can try playing terran but is it worth? i dont have nerves to waste another amount of time to learn the basis
gwho
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United States632 Posts
June 09 2008 17:43 GMT
#7
m... even tho u may be passive, terrans still require a lot more apm and microing for battles. so i'm guessing u mena passive in the general sense like turtling and tending not to attack? it's really hard to help u out here man.

as long as ur having fun, go for it. mastering another race can be rewarding. plus it's not like ur an A/B player with your first race is it?
gwho
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United States632 Posts
June 09 2008 17:44 GMT
#8
On June 10 2008 02:19 thedeadhaji wrote:
P->Tshould be easier than P->Z


that's for sure. individual production buildings making certain types of ujnits is more similar P-T. i can't stand that so that's why i'm a zergy.
Spyder
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
176 Posts
June 09 2008 17:49 GMT
#9
On June 10 2008 02:32 Spyder wrote:
well....he said that i'm too passive....and that that would perfectly fit playing terran....that's it, naturally i can try playing terran but is it worth? i dont have nerves to waste another amount of time to learn the basis



nah i'm D+ with toss...but i'll try to play sometimes with terran altrought i tried it and tanks are so pimp

about that being passive...yes i tend not to attack...i just mass and mass...but that would be good if my macro was awesome but unfortunately it isn't
gwho
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United States632 Posts
June 09 2008 18:04 GMT
#10
i can only say, practice and just get better =/
Spyder
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
176 Posts
June 09 2008 18:07 GMT
#11
well.thanks...i thought a bit and decided that the best thing would be to keep playing toss..
CapO
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
United States1615 Posts
June 09 2008 18:24 GMT
#12
maybe ur friend's p and he doesn't want massive pvps.
SNSD fan
Lemonwalrus
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
United States5465 Posts
June 09 2008 18:30 GMT
#13
I think it would be interesting to just keep playing protoss with your 'terran style' spin on it. It is nice to have a 'style' that is different then the norm, makes for interesting games, well, at least for your opponents.
Spyder
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
176 Posts
June 09 2008 18:30 GMT
#14
nah he is random but his best race is zerg
Spyder
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
176 Posts
June 09 2008 18:30 GMT
#15
and he is A iccup ~_~ that's why his statement worried me
Lemonwalrus
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
United States5465 Posts
June 09 2008 18:31 GMT
#16
How many random A iccupers are there? I'm guessing we have narrowed it down to about 3 people just now.
Solarian
Profile Joined June 2008
United States100 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-06-09 19:28:12
June 09 2008 19:27 GMT
#17
I wish I was an A random rather than a terrible, terrible, toss...


Hi.
d1v
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Sweden868 Posts
June 09 2008 19:49 GMT
#18
Other than the very early game, I don't see how Terrans have a passive playstyle at all. If you're playing passively as a T, the other two races are going to out-expand you quite quickly. I think this is a general problem, which cannot be overcome simply by changing your race.
Adams Æbler
.MistiK
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
Netherlands347 Posts
June 09 2008 21:54 GMT
#19
On June 10 2008 04:27 Solarian wrote:
I wish I was an A random rather than a terrible, terrible, toss...




i feel your pain
HamerD
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United Kingdom1922 Posts
June 09 2008 23:55 GMT
#20
random is the true manly race
"Oh no, we've drawn Judge Schneider" "Is that bad?" "Well, he's had it in for me ever since I kinda ran over his dog" "You did?" "Yeah...if you replace the word *kinda* with *repeatedly*...and the word *dog* with son"
Mada_Jiang
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
Australia236 Posts
June 10 2008 00:06 GMT
#21
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Goosey
Profile Blog Joined September 2005
United States695 Posts
June 10 2008 00:10 GMT
#22
Terran style of play? So i guess you camp on 2 base and still somehow win every game. Damn terran skillless race.

Random is so annoying to fight, especially if they get Zerg since my normal BO is totally screwed -_-


Anyway I was thinking of trying terran out since I think TvT is the most exciting matchup in the game. I absolutely love the fast and furious massive drops and how expos are being thrown up and tore down rapidly. No clue why some people think TvT is boring, it is really fun to watch most of the time.
#1 Shuttle Fan.
NarutO
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
Germany18839 Posts
June 10 2008 07:46 GMT
#23
What do you guys think about race switching from T to Z
CommentatorPolt | MMA | Jjakji | BoxeR | NaDa | MVP | MKP ... truly inspiring.
Spyder
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
176 Posts
June 29 2008 17:13 GMT
#24
Ok to not open another blog I'll just continue here, but note that it hasn't to do anything about changing race. So my questions are the following:
1)Regarding hotkeys - so my hotkeys are the following: 1,2,3[army]4,5,6,7[gates]8,9,0[Nexuses] and it' pretty easy to play with those HKeys, but i watched some progamers replays and i noticed that many hotkey they starting nexus at 4 (like bisu and anytime). Anytime i.e uses 4,5,6[nexuses]1[army early game]2,3[gates] and after changes a bit. However i dont understand why nex at 4 if p for making probes is so distant, isn't it better to have 0 as nexus or 4 is near 1,2,3 so he doesnt have to move his hand so much? Are the koreans keyboards different than the normal QWERTY ones ?

I started thinking about hotkeys coz my macro sucks and i thought that the Hkeys could be a problem. pls help -_-;;

2) probe production - everyone told me that i need to constantly produce probes, however there is also probe cutting and i dont know when to do it. also how many probes it's neccessary to make from one nex. I saw that Anytime makes approximately 20 probes but if he transfers them then the number becomes lower. pls help -_-;;
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