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Neshapotamus
Profile Blog Joined May 2006
United States163 Posts
June 01 2008 21:50 GMT
#1
Hello Team Liquid. Today, I had my finals of wcg southern qualifier. During the finals of the game, after I came back from losers bracket. LAST SHADOW kept playing suspicous games verses me. One particular game that worries me is this specific one. I am almost certain that this game had to have had some sort of hack involed. So, before I complain to wcg, I would like your opinion.

link to replay: http://www.yousendit.com/transfer.php?action=download&ufid=BF3035B14F56266A

*****
Harem
Profile Joined November 2007
United States11390 Posts
June 01 2008 21:56 GMT
#2
lol lastshadow
Moderator。◕‿◕。
Superiorwolf
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
United States5509 Posts
June 01 2008 22:06 GMT
#3
Lastshadow was even allowed to play??? o.o
Check out my stream at www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=315053 and follow me on Twitter @EGSuppy! :)
minus_human
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
4784 Posts
June 01 2008 22:11 GMT
#4
LOL
IntoTheWow
Profile Blog Joined May 2004
is awesome32274 Posts
June 01 2008 22:12 GMT
#5
lol LS again
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Caller
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Poland8075 Posts
June 01 2008 22:16 GMT
#6
did he host the maps and were they use map settings?
Watch me fail at Paradox: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=397564
Demoninja
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
United States1190 Posts
June 01 2008 22:16 GMT
#7
xD he was allowed to play?
intrigue
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Washington, D.C9933 Posts
June 01 2008 22:37 GMT
#8
haha

- this guy doesn't bother probe scouting ever, and the timing of the scv arriving is too late to indicate where nesh is coming from
- have you ever seen a protoss dt rush and not bother checking for turrets up the ramp?
- p moves back his army to stop a drop he has no indication of, since the only observers he makes are to kill mines
- drops an unscouted island expansion, which isn't unheard of but look at how confidently his shuttle strolls in when every terran makes turrets there. isn't it odd to not drop on the unbuildable terrain, or scout with an observer first?

looks pretty hilarious
Moderatorhttps://soundcloud.com/castlesmusic/sets/oak
Neshapotamus
Profile Blog Joined May 2006
United States163 Posts
June 01 2008 22:38 GMT
#9
Here is the link to all the games that were played: http://www.yousendit.com/transfer.php?action=download&ufid=E7966CFC700EB829
Naib
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
Hungary4843 Posts
June 01 2008 22:42 GMT
#10
Well, it's WCG. And it's LastShadow all over again.

I've lost count the times he apologized and started to hack again, what a stubborn retard
Complete the cycle!
thedeadhaji *
Profile Blog Joined January 2006
39489 Posts
June 01 2008 22:48 GMT
#11
On June 02 2008 07:12 IntoTheWow wrote:
lol LS again


LS ICON
boss420
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Cyprus109 Posts
June 01 2008 22:54 GMT
#12
he's definately cheating, so obvious.
jtan
Profile Blog Joined April 2003
Sweden5891 Posts
June 01 2008 22:54 GMT
#13
Just notify the wcg organizers that he is a known hacker
Enter a Uh
jtan
Profile Blog Joined April 2003
Sweden5891 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-06-01 23:10:18
June 01 2008 22:56 GMT
#14
nvm
Enter a Uh
fight_or_flight
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States3988 Posts
June 01 2008 23:00 GMT
#15
On June 02 2008 07:16 Caller wrote:
did he host the maps and were they use map settings?

Do you really want chat rooms?
tec27
Profile Blog Joined June 2004
United States3700 Posts
June 01 2008 23:07 GMT
#16
Sounds like you just can't handle the pressure. Suck it up, it'll be all right
Can you jam with the console cowboys in cyberspace?
merz
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
Sweden2760 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-06-01 23:39:14
June 01 2008 23:16 GMT
#17
That was fucking ridiculous.

- He doesn't even scout you yet he sends his 2 first goons straight up to 12, assuming you are there.

- He stops his DTs from going up the ramp even though he did not scout whether or not you had a turret there or just went 2 fac mines (which you did)

- He all of a sudden thinks it's pretty cool to move ½ of his army back to his main anticipating an incoming vulture drop without any detection

- He goes straight for your island expansion without having seen it

Man, I mean, if the mistrzzz vs hullah rep was hack, this is like hack x2. Fucker didn't even try to hide it :/


BTW you should check out that "EG" python as well. Might be rigged ;O
Winners never quit, quitters never win.
GrandInquisitor *
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
New York City13113 Posts
June 01 2008 23:59 GMT
#18
Sounds like you couldn't stop his unreal macro and sick timing senses.
What fun is it being cool if you can’t wear a sombrero?
conCentrate9
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States438 Posts
June 01 2008 23:59 GMT
#19
You cracked under the PRESSURE.

... THE PRESSURE.
EnergyTraction
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
Canada233 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-06-02 00:08:03
June 02 2008 00:02 GMT
#20
ahahahahahahahaha this replay is fucking HILARIOUS

just watch it with his vision only. you'll be saying "WAT THE FUCK" like 10 times a second at all the totally fucking ridiculous shit he does

this replay is seriously making me laugh in real life...who the fuck is gonna open 2 goons, go to 12 with the entire map black, then go 2 dts, and then stop the dts without EVEN CHECKING/GOING UP THE RAMP? the only thing on his entire minimap is 2 depots and a barracks but he reacts to everything perfectly....looool

"ya ima go with makin 1 obs vs a mines/vults opening T and then make a shuttle to drop the island when 12 minutes into the game the only thing on my minimap is now 2 depots, a barracks, and a turret"

his vision never goes beyond the 25% of the top left corner of the minimap the ENTIRE game
He who adores the Beast shall drink of the wrath of God
EGLzGaMeR
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
United States1867 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-06-02 00:43:53
June 02 2008 00:42 GMT
#21
ROFLROFL NO WONDER HE BEAT ME (Luck)+ HAX LOLROFLZ i guess hacking while cent BBS is not much skill but hacks surely help lol

i want justice in WCG!! BAN HIM

Lz vs. Nesh Bo45 GOGO!
WCGEX
Profile Joined June 2008
United States2 Posts
June 02 2008 02:38 GMT
#22
Nesh you did play really well, I don't know why you kept trash talking me in every game and after every game..

I had specific map BO's intended for PvT and TvP.

The games for playing ICCup and Anti-Hacker maps for Christ Sake's, I can't hack.

The game where I 'dt drop' the island, I was going to dt drop your main, as I saw no push nor a 3rd, however, I saw a CC going down, so I opted to attack it instead.

As far as the 'Dt's didnt go up ramp' if you notice he SCOUTS my DT tech, and lol'd in the game (obs can probably attest to that) I'm not going to run into a potential 3tank w/ Turret FE and lose my DT's, I'll just contain and go 2 base to counteract his 2 base harrassive style..

The 'spotted dropship' or w/e, was because every game he was going dropship pretty much, even on peaks, he just didnt get the chance to use it. Its obvious its essential to his play, so befor I was going to setup my contain to kill his pushout, I moved a few goons back home 4(?) to kill any dropship, as he had a) no 3rd b) no large army count and was still on 2 base... obvious dropship..


All-In all, you BM'd me every fucking game, trashing me every time, hosting EVERY map, EVERY map was ANTI-HACK and were on ICCUP ANTI-HACK.

Don't even call me a hacker, I will be going to the LAN. And with your play level, you can easily qualify next time.. jesus christ you act like I BM'd you the entire time, yeah I did luck/cheesy build orders of course.

However, my macro wasn't luck or cheesy. . .

Maybe a bit all-in'ish in some games, but not to the degree of what your saying.

And @ LZGamer, i have nothing agaisnt you, I never BBS'd you I have the reps, you tried to cheese me on Tau Cross, i went 2rax FE but i blocked the lings coming thx to scout. We then proceeded to a 20minute game where i took you down on pure macro . . .

You even hosted the maps..

Nesh/LZ your both good players, and I respect you both .. . just please don't call me a hacker.. it was on ICCup for christ's sakes..

WCGEX
Profile Joined June 2008
United States2 Posts
June 02 2008 02:43 GMT
#23
Also.. you even raped me a few games and caught me off guard alot =/.. (blue storm + python w/ arbiter recall...)
Chill
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
Calgary25980 Posts
June 02 2008 03:22 GMT
#24
Kid, shut the fuck up. We know Kawaii cheated for it, it's so obvious. You're trash and fucking everyone else's chances. You will never goto WCG because you can't play straight up.

You walked a Probe directly to his proxy Factory.
You don't check ramps with DTs, you just "assume" Turrets are there.
You don't check mains.
You don't use Observers (Robo after Arbiter Tribunal anyone?)

I could go on but you're not worth the time. This was just in case someone reading thinks we're unfair against people like this.
Moderator
DeadVessel
Profile Blog Joined April 2006
United States6269 Posts
June 02 2008 03:49 GMT
#25
Haha LS you're such a faggot man.
Chill
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
Calgary25980 Posts
June 02 2008 03:51 GMT
#26
On June 02 2008 11:43 WCGEX wrote:
Also.. you even raped me a few games and caught me off guard alot =/.. (blue storm + python w/ arbiter recall...)


The games Kawaii wasn't obsing. What a surprise!
Moderator
micronesia
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States24680 Posts
June 02 2008 03:51 GMT
#27
It only took 1 replay to figure it out haha.
ModeratorThere are animal crackers for people and there are people crackers for animals.
littlechava
Profile Blog Joined March 2004
United States7218 Posts
June 02 2008 03:53 GMT
#28
a few games you didn't even scout in the beginning LOOOOOOOOOOOOL
in a game on python you sent a drop to his island when you didn't have obs to see it
Entusman #12
JigglypuffWCG
Profile Joined June 2008
United States6 Posts
June 02 2008 04:01 GMT
#29
@ Chill . .. his scv runs from my probe and then isnt found at my base in the game at peaks.. he is obviously proxying something..

Also at the 'kawaii wasnt obsing remark' um no, the game on BlueStorm kawaii was obsing and I still got raped and caught off guard.. jesus.

And the games before vs wampwamp, with no obs, and him hosting, I guess I hacked on ICCup too?

And I scout in every game, watch all my gamse, I late scout, even replays of me show very late scout unless I suspect something gay when someone is behind like 0-2 or something.

Yeah, the arbiter recall on 239042390423 mines, thats a clear hack..
And playing defensive and letting nesh setup at my choke on bluestorm.. w/ kawaii obs.

Seriously, I understand everyone is bias against me and hates me, but this is WCG I was playing my best and playing super safe.. Chill you have every reason to hate me.. I understand man.. but I will show up at the LAN. I promise.

I just got lucky on some things.

and also the 'assuming turrets' is because he scouts my citadel WARPING, obviously he will HAVE TURRETS by the time my DT's get there.. I wasn't going to risk running into 3 tanks frm an FE.

@ the 'dont check mains' I had observesr in his mains in Most of the games wtf? I can also judge someones factory count by their natural's army.. I fucking play Terran for christ's sake..

I didn't hack. I didn't cheat.
Half the time Kawaii wasn't even in my wcg games vs wampwamp/nesh. He wasn't even in the ones vs wampwamp.

And just to clear things up, how does my 'macro' in all the games account for hacks? I had clear PSI leads every game, not allowing him to mount an offensive.

and @ the 'no obs after arbiter turnal' by chill..

um.. when a Terran loses 2394234923scvs and 238904890234892tanks and 2342042 other things, I'm pretty fucking sure my unit numbers will be enough, especially if I just go 3stargate arbiter, and if you look, my obs was warping in as I attacked, as well as I was going to take a 4th.

why the fuck do i need obs w/ 3 control groups + 3 base + arbiter tech + 7 gate vs a super dmaged terran? it doesn't take an idiot to know 2 zeals run in, then attack w/ army..


I will go to the LAN thats all I'm saying, and I have been training very hard to break my persona of a cheater.. I won't give up.

Equinox_kr
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
United States7395 Posts
June 02 2008 04:17 GMT
#30
uhh good luck?
^-^
Neshapotamus
Profile Blog Joined May 2006
United States163 Posts
June 02 2008 04:30 GMT
#31
If you are telling me you didn't in some way cheat that game, you are ridiculous. You finding my proxy the previous game was also pretty ridiculous. I never seen a probe go and scout a spot where a starport might be. This game, you barely scouted. You made it pretty obvious that your friend helped you out. Stupid me for thinking he isn't your friend until after the games were played. You aren't fooling anyone thinking you can send goons in to my main base without a scouting probe when the SCV arrives late to your base. You didn't want to go up my ramp due to fact that you knew I had turrets up there. Also, I want you to note that in game 1 of peaks, you ran your dt when you knew i didn't have turrets. Isn't that very "lucky." You moved your goons right before my dropship came into your base. At least make it believable that you didn't cheat. Ohh, and your friend went afk when we played on bluestorm which is why you lost. I knew he wasn't there to watch you because the next game he didn't show up, and you lost that one as well. The third game he was there, and he told you about my proxy starport, and you found it and still lost that game. So please, tell me how is it "luck" when everything you did was straight up obvious that you cheated.
JigglypuffWCG
Profile Joined June 2008
United States6 Posts
June 02 2008 04:49 GMT
#32
@ Nesh...

I didn't cheat..

The game where i find your hidden starport I planned on expoing there, then I saw the starport and hid probe.. jesus.

Also the 'dropship find' @ Python, like I said I knew you were dropshipping from your unit count / no push / no 3rd . .. . so I opted for 2 base style ,as it seemed to counter yours... and i didnt lose the proxy starport game wtf..? i won that game then the next one..

The BlueStorm game ; Kawaii was in fact there, look at fucking broodwar chart wtf?

The game where I run dt's up ramp because i looked at the timing of your CC w/ Zeal then the timing of the turret at natural jesus christ, the turret @ nat was at 80, OBVIOUSLY any turret in main is same timing.

I play Terran, I think that gives me an edge on PvT...

The 'no-scout' goons, was obvious, your scv was super late, now either, your at 3 or 12, probably 12 as you would normally scout 12 -> 3 -> 6 -> 9.. I could judge by your scv timing..

=/ I didn't cheat, I swear to God, I will attend the LAN.. Nesh you are a good Terran.. you will qualify =/..
JigglypuffWCG
Profile Joined June 2008
United States6 Posts
June 02 2008 04:50 GMT
#33
@ Littlechava

Why scout on peaks? lol.. I used zeal to scout + attack.. its a 2player map lol.

My BO's on peaks was pre-planed, as I went over them with SLoG4[pG] initially I had planned to use them vs Reign[MnM] in the Atlantic and SLoG4[pG] helped me go over them (not really too well though :p).
clazziquai
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
6685 Posts
June 02 2008 04:51 GMT
#34
excuses excuses excuses
blah blah blah

hack hack hack


gtfo
#1 Sea.Really Fan / #1 Nesh Fan / Terran Forever~
Neshapotamus
Profile Blog Joined May 2006
United States163 Posts
June 02 2008 05:01 GMT
#35
Lastshadow, do me a favor. Go download the replay and watch the replay twice. One, with vision on to see excatly what happned in the game and then with vision on only yourself. Now, pretend it isn't you playing. Now, if that doesn't look like a cheater to you, I dont know what a cheater is then.


P.S.
This game, you don't expand in another main, why is that? becasue there is no proxy there this time?
iNcontroL *
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
USA29055 Posts
June 02 2008 05:04 GMT
#36
nesh i spoke to the wcg admins (you were there <3) in person and you need to make the complaint ASAP. They will react asap but they need the official complaint ASAP.

ASAP

PS: skew is sitting next to me and he asked for more asap's so...

+ Show Spoiler +
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JigglypuffWCG
Profile Joined June 2008
United States6 Posts
June 02 2008 05:05 GMT
#37
... Your saying you want me to do the same build order every game? Quote "Expand in another main again"

No.. I needed a 3rd for a fast transfer that game, rather than just play a harassive style as I intended w/ the dt's before it... I didn't hack man.. holy shit. I played really safe and just kept fluxuating through my hotkeys / base to make sure everything was on que.

And @ clizz..

you cant hack on iccup + Anti-Hack maps lol :p.

and to finish what nesh said.. it looked a little suspicious of course, but not something a player fighting for his WCG spot wouldn't do, especially when they play T, so they know how T thinks..

That is what gave me the edge over you imo..

goldenkrnboi
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States3104 Posts
June 02 2008 05:10 GMT
#38
honestly LS, why bother coming back? you know that if there's at least 1 suspicious move in the replay, TL isn't going to believe you, no matter what you say was going through your mind.


you say you're trying hard not to cheat again? what about the ~100000 other times you said that, and yet you were proven to constantly hack after you clearly said you wouldn't

i believe in second chances. however, tenth chance != second chance
JigglypuffWCG
Profile Joined June 2008
United States6 Posts
June 02 2008 05:25 GMT
#39
I never was caught hacking.. or even hacked for that matter..

I apologized a few times yes, each time I desired something more.. and i felt weak and was losing interest in friendships for some reason =/..

But now, I have a reason to fight, for the few people who helped me before from the USA who still believe that i can turn around, and to prove to myself that I'm not giving in this easily, I won't go down in SC without a giant fight for redemption.

I don't care what it takes, I will not cheat, I will not hack, I will not rig maps. I will train my fucking ass off everyday and practice non-stop w/ the best players I have, and when i need advice, i always seek out my good friends from the SC community (slog4 / i-emerge(mentor-esque)..

I know TL will go against me, its my job to prove them wrong.
No one said redemption would be easy.
And I know it was my mistake to cheat in the first place.. but thats my fault, not theirs and I am sorry, and this time, I am going to back my 'sorry' up with my skill/play.. I promise.
JigglypuffWCG
Profile Joined June 2008
United States6 Posts
June 02 2008 05:28 GMT
#40
On June 02 2008 14:04 {88}iNcontroL wrote:
nesh i spoke to the wcg admins (you were there <3) in person and you need to make the complaint ASAP. They will react asap but they need the official complaint ASAP.

ASAP

PS: skew is sitting next to me and he asked for more asap's so...

+ Show Spoiler +
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... and andy said you didn't even care.

Geoff, I apologized to you personally on MSN, and I was GM to you 24/7 whenever we spoke on Bnet or ICCup whatever it be..

I understand you'd take your friends side over mine, but there is nothing here. The games were anti-hack maps / anti-hack ICCup.
H
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
New Zealand6138 Posts
June 02 2008 06:50 GMT
#41
Cliffnotes for anyone disinterested in lastshadow's bullshit:

Legit player gets hacked against in WCG (again)
Said hacker creates an account to post piles upon piles of utter fucking bullshit

God I hope incontrol shows up to WCG and beats the fuck out of you kid
[iHs]HCO | のヮの | pachi & plexa ownz | RIP _
intrigue
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Washington, D.C9933 Posts
June 02 2008 07:18 GMT
#42
On June 02 2008 14:25 JigglypuffWCG wrote:
I never was caught hacking.. or even hacked for that matter..

I apologized a few times yes, each time I desired something more.. and i felt weak and was losing interest in friendships for some reason =/..

But now, I have a reason to fight, for the few people who helped me before from the USA who still believe that i can turn around, and to prove to myself that I'm not giving in this easily, I won't go down in SC without a giant fight for redemption.

I don't care what it takes, I will not cheat, I will not hack, I will not rig maps. I will train my fucking ass off everyday and practice non-stop w/ the best players I have, and when i need advice, i always seek out my good friends from the SC community (slog4 / i-emerge(mentor-esque)..

I know TL will go against me, its my job to prove them wrong.
No one said redemption would be easy.
And I know it was my mistake to cheat in the first place.. but thats my fault, not theirs and I am sorry, and this time, I am going to back my 'sorry' up with my skill/play.. I promise.

blah blah blah get off of your high horse
how the fuck do you live with yourself, you miserable piece of shit

no matter what you say you know that you still haven't changed. there's a word for people like you, psychopath: a person with an antisocial personality disorder, manifested in aggressive, perverted, criminal, or amoral behavior without real empathy or remorse, except along with that definition you're also a complete idiot.
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yubee
Profile Blog Joined May 2006
United States3826 Posts
June 02 2008 07:43 GMT
#43
On June 02 2008 16:18 intrigue wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 02 2008 14:25 JigglypuffWCG wrote:
I never was caught hacking.. or even hacked for that matter..

I apologized a few times yes, each time I desired something more.. and i felt weak and was losing interest in friendships for some reason =/..

But now, I have a reason to fight, for the few people who helped me before from the USA who still believe that i can turn around, and to prove to myself that I'm not giving in this easily, I won't go down in SC without a giant fight for redemption.

I don't care what it takes, I will not cheat, I will not hack, I will not rig maps. I will train my fucking ass off everyday and practice non-stop w/ the best players I have, and when i need advice, i always seek out my good friends from the SC community (slog4 / i-emerge(mentor-esque)..

I know TL will go against me, its my job to prove them wrong.
No one said redemption would be easy.
And I know it was my mistake to cheat in the first place.. but thats my fault, not theirs and I am sorry, and this time, I am going to back my 'sorry' up with my skill/play.. I promise.

blah blah blah get off of your high horse
how the fuck do you live with yourself, you miserable piece of shit

no matter what you say you know that you still haven't changed. there's a word for people like you, psychopath: a person with an antisocial personality disorder, manifested in aggressive, perverted, criminal, or amoral behavior without real empathy or remorse, except along with that definition you're also a complete idiot.
yeah dumbass
Frits
Profile Joined March 2003
11782 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-06-02 12:52:25
June 02 2008 12:49 GMT
#44
On June 02 2008 14:25 JigglypuffWCG wrote:
I never was caught hacking.. or even hacked for that matter..

I apologized a few times yes, each time I desired something more.. and i felt weak and was losing interest in friendships for some reason =/..

But now, I have a reason to fight, for the few people who helped me before from the USA who still believe that i can turn around, and to prove to myself that I'm not giving in this easily, I won't go down in SC without a giant fight for redemption.

I don't care what it takes, I will not cheat, I will not hack, I will not rig maps. I will train my fucking ass off everyday and practice non-stop w/ the best players I have, and when i need advice, i always seek out my good friends from the SC community (slog4 / i-emerge(mentor-esque)..

I know TL will go against me, its my job to prove them wrong.
No one said redemption would be easy.
And I know it was my mistake to cheat in the first place.. but thats my fault, not theirs and I am sorry, and this time, I am going to back my 'sorry' up with my skill/play.. I promise.


Holy shit where are you getting this from is this from your favorite anime or what I am in stitches everytime you 'apologise'.

Honestly man, the only thing you need to apologise is being genuinely sorry, which you obviously aren't since this is the FOURTH time at least where you got caught rigging/abusing/hacking.

ps. I thought you said you didn't care what it takes, how is anyone supposed to believe that you're not cheating then? What kind of logic is that.

jesus christ what a sociopath
QuanticHawk
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States32055 Posts
June 02 2008 14:36 GMT
#45
I really hope someone pulls a HovZ on your ass at the lan, you lil faget
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RaGe
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
Belgium9947 Posts
June 02 2008 16:40 GMT
#46
On June 02 2008 13:01 JigglypuffWCG wrote:
@ Chill . .. his scv runs from my probe and then isnt found at my base in the game at peaks.. he is obviously proxying something..

Also at the 'kawaii wasnt obsing remark' um no, the game on BlueStorm kawaii was obsing and I still got raped and caught off guard.. jesus.

And the games before vs wampwamp, with no obs, and him hosting, I guess I hacked on ICCup too?

And I scout in every game, watch all my gamse, I late scout, even replays of me show very late scout unless I suspect something gay when someone is behind like 0-2 or something.

Yeah, the arbiter recall on 239042390423 mines, thats a clear hack..
And playing defensive and letting nesh setup at my choke on bluestorm.. w/ kawaii obs.

Seriously, I understand everyone is bias against me and hates me, but this is WCG I was playing my best and playing super safe.. Chill you have every reason to hate me.. I understand man.. but I will show up at the LAN. I promise.

I just got lucky on some things.

and also the 'assuming turrets' is because he scouts my citadel WARPING, obviously he will HAVE TURRETS by the time my DT's get there.. I wasn't going to risk running into 3 tanks frm an FE.

@ the 'dont check mains' I had observesr in his mains in Most of the games wtf? I can also judge someones factory count by their natural's army.. I fucking play Terran for christ's sake..

I didn't hack. I didn't cheat.
Half the time Kawaii wasn't even in my wcg games vs wampwamp/nesh. He wasn't even in the ones vs wampwamp.

And just to clear things up, how does my 'macro' in all the games account for hacks? I had clear PSI leads every game, not allowing him to mount an offensive.

and @ the 'no obs after arbiter turnal' by chill..

um.. when a Terran loses 2394234923scvs and 238904890234892tanks and 2342042 other things, I'm pretty fucking sure my unit numbers will be enough, especially if I just go 3stargate arbiter, and if you look, my obs was warping in as I attacked, as well as I was going to take a 4th.

why the fuck do i need obs w/ 3 control groups + 3 base + arbiter tech + 7 gate vs a super dmaged terran? it doesn't take an idiot to know 2 zeals run in, then attack w/ army..


I will go to the LAN thats all I'm saying, and I have been training very hard to break my persona of a cheater.. I won't give up.



oh god you're a FUCKING RETARD. Look at your posts again

- 'I see him having no expansion so I opt for 2 base safeplay'
- 'I sent a probe to 6 to expand there'

Oh so you're going for 2base safeplay but still going for a third? In such a remote location when you claim your 'senses' knew he was going for drop? In every game where kawaii obsed you perfectly countered his build (except for the blue storm game, but hey, kawaii didnt observe after that game anymore, he went afk actually, until you got raped again, then you requested a break, and hey after the break kawaii was back? WHAT A COINCIDENCE)

Oh and Kawaii is notorious for saying 'Wouldn't you help your friend abuse?'
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Xeris
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
Iran17695 Posts
June 02 2008 17:51 GMT
#47
laff. this is funny I hope he gets banned from WCG.
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EvilTeletubby
Profile Blog Joined January 2004
Baltimore, USA22254 Posts
June 02 2008 19:04 GMT
#48
On June 02 2008 14:25 JigglypuffWCG wrote:
But now, I have a reason to fight, for the few people who helped me before from the USA who still believe that i can turn around, and to prove to myself that I'm not giving in this easily, I won't go down in SC without a giant fight for redemption.

I don't care what it takes, I will not cheat, I will not hack, I will not rig maps. I will train my fucking ass off everyday and practice non-stop w/ the best players I have, and when i need advice, i always seek out my good friends from the SC community (slog4 / i-emerge(mentor-esque)..

I know TL will go against me, its my job to prove them wrong.
No one said redemption would be easy.
And I know it was my mistake to cheat in the first place.. but thats my fault, not theirs and I am sorry, and this time, I am going to back my 'sorry' up with my skill/play.. I promise.


LooooL... god kid, you're so warped in the head.
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frozenclaw
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
Canada409 Posts
June 03 2008 00:19 GMT
#49
What does BBS mean?
Harem
Profile Joined November 2007
United States11390 Posts
June 03 2008 00:22 GMT
#50
On June 03 2008 09:19 frozenclaw wrote:
What does BBS mean?

barracks, barracks, supply
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NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
June 03 2008 00:22 GMT
#51
barracks, barracks, supply depot

It's a Terran opening.
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ShaLLoW[baY]
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Canada12499 Posts
June 03 2008 00:42 GMT
#52
It's often used to apply undue amounts of pressure.
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jimminy_kriket
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Canada5502 Posts
June 03 2008 07:04 GMT
#53
When I was watching the rep i kept switching between both players views and just lastshadows. I noticed some of nesh's mines went invisible but were still visible on the minimap ,even when I had vision of both players. Lastshadow looked like he could see mines all game long, walking around them etc. Could this be something left over from maphack or is it a known glitch?
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Ilikestarcraft
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
Korea (South)17727 Posts
June 03 2008 07:34 GMT
#54
dejavu
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