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dinmsab
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Malaysia2246 Posts
May 08 2008 05:24 GMT
#1
So basically I need advice on speakers, headphones and PC audio in general.... right now I own a set of Altec Lansing 4121 (2 years old I think) and im using an on board sound card to power it, Realtek HD if Im not mistaken. So right now i feel that I want to upgrade my entire sound system in general, and btw I use my PC mostly for games, music, and movies... So recently I got interested in seenheiser headphones and planning to buy a HD555 to be used on my PC. So doing some research about the headphones on the web I learned that in order to get good performance out of the HD555 you need to have a good sound card, on board just doesnt cut it. So now, Im facing the dilemma of either purchasing a sound card first, or a the HD555 first. So being the nub I am, I want you guys to clarify a few things for me.. how much diference would it make between a "real" soundcard and an onboard realtek? And maybe can someone tell me how much diference in sound quality is there between the HD555 and my Vs4121 speakers. Hope you guys can help me out here.

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zdd
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
1463 Posts
May 08 2008 05:34 GMT
#2
I remember this discussion on slashdot about a month ago: http://hardware.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=08/04/08/222220 some of that info should be useful. I think in general, you need a good sound card for recording, but for playback most sound is already compressed so onboard is enough.
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FirstProbe
Profile Joined June 2004
1206 Posts
May 08 2008 07:25 GMT
#3
I don't recommend it, but check out the Denon AH-D5000 - what a beautiful headphone...
gusbear
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
333 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-05-08 08:06:04
May 08 2008 07:42 GMT
#4
If you are only concerned with playback, there shouldnt be a need for a dedicated soundcard.
Unless:
1) You are able to identify the sound defect (for example abnormal hissing)
2) You need a certain feature that your onboard does not have

Otherwise, most newer onboards are as good and you wont be able to tell the difference. I would suggest you buy the headphones first, and you can easily borrow a soundcard and perform a fair test to see if you can tell the difference.

Now your second question is pretty much headphones vs speakers... well without a doubt you will be able to hear much more with the headphones, mainly because you are isolated from outside noise. unlike your 2ch speakers you will be able to get surround sound, which will probably be useless if you download mostly 2ch movies haha. But for playing a FPS, surround sound + good isolation = being able to hear footsteps.

But the thing about speakers is they offer more comfort, and if you are watching a movie with a proper subwoofer you will appreciate being physically shaken by massive explosions. (I think you should still be able to feel at least something with the VS4121) Its all a matter of personal preference, some people feel headphones are unnaturally pure and uncomfortable, others may feel speakers limit the ideal listening position and are affected by room noise and reflections.

In summary, I think you will love your HD555s but you wont abandon your VS4121 as they both have their strengths and weaknesses. dont worry too much, just enjoy the music.

Edit: Speakers vs Headphones http://www.dansdata.com/spkvshead.htm nobody tells it better than Dan
gEzUS
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Canada371 Posts
May 08 2008 07:46 GMT
#5
well i have a pair of hd555s and i regret not getting the 600s they are worth every penny. But the 555s are still great, and will be a vast improvement over what you currently have.

You can get them first and still see a huge improvement, and i know it might seem dumb, but a sound card can improve sound quality even with you current set-up. But get the phones first!!!!! You might also want to get new computer speakers. Or youll never use your current ones and just use your phones all the time. There are pretty much only two to consider that are reasonably priced, the Logitech Z-2300 and the Klipsh ones(forgot the name) both are 2.1 systems and are great for movies and music. The Logitechs are THX certified which means alot to some audio enthusiasts. I have them and they are great for the price.

edit: i just saw the post above and the sennheisers are not closed and leak alot of sound and left alot of sound in, DO not use them in a loud room. This open back allows a greater range giving the sound an open feel, and not cramped. Its personal preference.
useLess
Profile Blog Joined January 2004
United States4781 Posts
May 08 2008 08:28 GMT
#6
Get the headphones first. At least with that, you can still use em for your mp3 player or whatever.
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bustaBust
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
Canada469 Posts
May 08 2008 14:27 GMT
#7
I highly recommend getting a Creative X-Fi Extreme Music sound card and some digital speakers. I use Logitech Z-550 Digital 5.1 speakers and I love them. I have the HD kit for my Xbox 360 so get dolby digital 5.1 from that as well. Mind you the coax and optical cables are expensive (coax for PC, optical for 360), each are basically as much as the sound card ($80).

The difference between high quality speakers and headphones are speakers give a good atmosphere, especially with movies. Headphones will give you a very clear sound but no matter how good (Ive gone through 3 pairs of Bose Triports and I am using Pioneer HDJ1000s at the moment that are studio quality) it doesn't give you that dramatic effect and loud bass that you get with some nice speakers, thought my friends say "It feels like theres a subwoofer" in my new headphones. For competitive FPS video games there is NO substitute for headphones and a decent sound card.
dinmsab
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Malaysia2246 Posts
May 08 2008 14:57 GMT
#8
On May 08 2008 23:27 bustaBust wrote:
I highly recommend getting a Creative X-Fi Extreme Music sound card and some digital speakers. I use Logitech Z-550 Digital 5.1 speakers and I love them. I have the HD kit for my Xbox 360 so get dolby digital 5.1 from that as well. Mind you the coax and optical cables are expensive (coax for PC, optical for 360), each are basically as much as the sound card ($80).

The difference between high quality speakers and headphones are speakers give a good atmosphere, especially with movies. Headphones will give you a very clear sound but no matter how good (Ive gone through 3 pairs of Bose Triports and I am using Pioneer HDJ1000s at the moment that are studio quality) it doesn't give you that dramatic effect and loud bass that you get with some nice speakers, thought my friends say "It feels like theres a subwoofer" in my new headphones. For competitive FPS video games there is NO substitute for headphones and a decent sound card.


Well, thank you for the recomendations... but it still doesn't answer my question; is it worth it to upgrade my sound card considering that im not exactly interested in 5.1 audio? I mean, from what i've read there wont be much difference in playback, and unless your recording or using 5.1 audio there isnt much point in upgrading.
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gEzUS
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Canada371 Posts
May 08 2008 16:40 GMT
#9
5.1 is a messy proposition for computer set ups you have wires everywhere!! But they are also decent for the price.

And forget BOSE they are terrible, Across their whole line of products WAY TOO BOOMY. Ive heard many cheap HTIB that sound better than 6000 dollar set-ups.

The creative card is the one to get tho.
dinmsab
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Malaysia2246 Posts
May 08 2008 17:56 GMT
#10
On May 09 2008 01:40 gEzUS wrote:
5.1 is a messy proposition for computer set ups you have wires everywhere!! But they are also decent for the price.

And forget BOSE they are terrible, Across their whole line of products WAY TOO BOOMY. Ive heard many cheap HTIB that sound better than 6000 dollar set-ups.

The creative card is the one to get tho.


B.O.S.E- Buy Other Sound Equipment.
Gotta agree, you either love it.. or just hate BOSE speakers.. but for most of us they definitely suck and are generally more expensive than other brands too.
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