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Last Romantic
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
United States20661 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-04-30 00:17:25
April 29 2008 23:51 GMT
#1
Yeah, so after a long spell of thought/visiting/discussing and all sorts of sundry... whatever the fuck people do in order to make decisions, I've chosen to attend UC Berkeley for the next period of my academic career.

I'll be enrolled in the College of Letters and Science; hopefully I'll be admitted to Haas for the Business Administration major. Otherwise I'll be doing Economics.

For housing I applied to:

1) Bowles Hall
2) Unit 1 minisuite
3) Unit 2 minisuite
4) Unit 3 triple
5) anything else

I'm wondering as to who else is/will be attending Cal. Any and all advice/comments/questions/whatever you want to talk about is welcomed.

I know Evanthebouncy is currently a freshman there, but I'm not too sure on any other people.

+ Show Spoiler [Why Cal instead of LA] +

Initially I was dead set against Cal. At the time of my application it was my last choice. Then I got rejected from 8/10 schools I applied to, and was left with LA and Cal.

With the applications and admissions proper being largely fait accompli, and unwilling to appeal any decisions, I was fairly sure I'd be attending UCLA. However, my parents' insistence on Cal [since Berkeley is one of the ~5 schools Asian parents are aware of] persuaded me to visit and research both before choosing.

I find the Cal campus to be unpleasant to the eye with its hodgepodge of discontinuous architecture. Furthermore, the city of Berkeley itself is seedy at best: apart from the BART station and perhaps the Telegraph/Durant area, there is little to no reason to venture out past the University confines.

UCLA on the other hand is beautiful and relatively clean. It also has a closer-knit community feel due to the proximity of the residence halls, apartments, and Greek houses to one another. Westwood is both safer and more interesting than Berkeley, and I prefer Los Angeles over San Francisco as a city.

Yet after all was said and done, despite my moderate/conservative beliefs and strong adherence to aesthetic values, I chose Cal. As for why:

1) Academic prestige. Sure, people say that amongst the top 25, education doesn't differ much, and I believe it. A UCLA education won't be far inferior to even a Harvard education in terms of raw learning. The contacts/professors/name value of Berkeley is still greater, though, and beneficial in the long term.

2) Better [actually existent] business programme. Haas' undergraduate Business major is third in the nation; Anderson does not have one. Considering I am planning a career in Investment Banking [mergers/acquisitions, probably? not too sure on that part] it was a great incentive to choose Berkeley.

3) Branching out more. This argument may sound somewhat sophomoric, with all the nonsensical talk about 'diversity' and 'learning to accept others', but I do think a change of locale would benefit me. UCLA, despite being in Los Angeles, is still isolated from the dreary aspects of urban life. Though I once lived in comparative poverty, it was so long ago that I've forgotten all about hardship. It may make me a better person and open my eyes to common adversity.

4) The fact that I don't like the campus/area will help me concentrate on studying. UCLA would be too much fun and games, and I'm afraid I'd get sidetracked. With the Cal campus being more spread out, I can choose to go party or to visit SF when I want, but it's quieter when necessary.

5) Family pressures. Being raised with traditional Chinese values in mind, filial piety and loyalty to my elders is quite important. Since they're all supporting Cal, this was a large factor in my decision.

6) Convenient location. I can get home in an hour. Yes, it's a bit close, but not too close. The benefits of this are considerable, considering increasing gasoline/airfare prices. I also prefer Norcal weather over Socal weather.

I'm sure I'd have more fun at UCLA, and it may result in a slightly more enjoyable college experience. However, after I become accustomed to it, Cal should not be far inferior in either of those regards, and the other benefits entailed above outweighed my initial desire to become a Bruin.


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ahrara_
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
Afghanistan1715 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-04-29 23:58:53
April 29 2008 23:55 GMT
#2
I will be going there next year.

I hope you like asian girls.

edit:

I noticed you were born '85. Are you a grad student?

edit2:

nevermind, dumb question. What made you put school off for so long? Are you a transfer student? From where?

Good luck getting in Haas! It's very very competitive.

edit3:

(lol)

Just so I don't jinx it, let it be known that I THINK I'll be going to Berkeley next year, but that I don't find out until the 30th.
in Afghanistan we have 20% literacy rate
dronebabo
Profile Blog Joined December 2003
10866 Posts
April 30 2008 00:12 GMT
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dronebabo
Profile Blog Joined December 2003
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April 30 2008 00:12 GMT
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Last Romantic
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
United States20661 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-04-30 00:13:58
April 30 2008 00:13 GMT
#5
On April 30 2008 08:55 ahrara_ wrote:
I will be going there next year.

I hope you like asian girls.

edit:

I noticed you were born '85. Are you a grad student?

edit2:

nevermind, dumb question. What made you put school off for so long? Are you a transfer student? From where?

Good luck getting in Haas! It's very very competitive.

edit3:

(lol)

Just so I don't jinx it, let it be known that I THINK I'll be going to Berkeley next year, but that I don't find out until the 30th.


Oh my bday is 1990 I just didn't put it in my profile when I first registered for TL; I didn't think it was important.

Graduating from high school this year and whatever.

Edit: why do you find out so late?
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ahrara_
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
Afghanistan1715 Posts
April 30 2008 00:16 GMT
#6
I'm a transfer student from Ohlone. We find out later.
in Afghanistan we have 20% literacy rate
blabber
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States4448 Posts
April 30 2008 00:16 GMT
#7
dammnn I didn't even apply to Berkeley cause I knew I wasn't going to get in lol
blabberrrrr
Last Romantic
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
United States20661 Posts
April 30 2008 00:19 GMT
#8
:o

what high school did you attend? Mission?
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ahrara_
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
Afghanistan1715 Posts
April 30 2008 00:28 GMT
#9
American High.

Whoa, you from Fremont?
in Afghanistan we have 20% literacy rate
Last Romantic
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
United States20661 Posts
April 30 2008 00:28 GMT
#10
Nope. Los Altos.
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thedeadhaji *
Profile Blog Joined January 2006
39489 Posts
April 30 2008 00:31 GMT
#11
Los Altos Representttttttttttttttt
ahrara_
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
Afghanistan1715 Posts
April 30 2008 00:32 GMT
#12
Ah. Ya.

Just read your edit.

Berkeley is indeed very ghetto.
in Afghanistan we have 20% literacy rate
Cogito
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United States453 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-04-30 00:33:41
April 30 2008 00:32 GMT
#13
Good luck man. Berkeley is a great school. I use their online lectures to learn.

edit - so is Cal = UC Berkely? I always thought Cal = UCLA.
Last Romantic
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
United States20661 Posts
April 30 2008 00:34 GMT
#14
Cal = University of California = UC Berkeley = The University of California, Berkeley

UCLA = University of California, Los Angeles = UC Los Angeles.

I don't know why Cal has so many names
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LosingID8
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
CA10829 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-04-30 00:40:41
April 30 2008 00:40 GMT
#15
UCB was the first UC so they get to be called Cal

*edit* they also have the best shades of blue and yellow
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Last Romantic
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
United States20661 Posts
April 30 2008 00:42 GMT
#16
Losing isn't that just 'cause you're a USC man?
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NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
April 30 2008 00:57 GMT
#17
kudos LR

haha haji giving props to Los Altos. :X
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infinity21 *
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
Canada6683 Posts
April 30 2008 01:00 GMT
#18
business admin is boring as hell D:
I think I managed to stay awake for maybe 3 lectures throughout the whole year at Laurier.

Econ's nice though. You don't have to go to class and you can still get good marks.
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phase
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United States399 Posts
April 30 2008 01:01 GMT
#19
Ooh, gratz on getting admitted, and deciding on Cal. We do have a starcraft community here, although its kind of isolated to people's own groups. (I do lan with Yosh and a couple others every thursday, but hes graduating this year). There are probably a lot of TL lurkers here at Berkeley as well.

We're talking about trying to start a decal (student taught course) on Starcraft for next semester, so that'll be interesitng. There has also been a sponsored SC tourney for the past two semesters, and it’ll most likely happen again next semester (even if SC2 comes out before).
Last Romantic
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
United States20661 Posts
April 30 2008 01:05 GMT
#20
On April 30 2008 10:01 phase wrote:
Ooh, gratz on getting admitted, and deciding on Cal. We do have a starcraft community here, although its kind of isolated to people's own groups. (I do lan with Yosh and a couple others every thursday, but hes graduating this year). There are probably a lot of TL lurkers here at Berkeley as well.

We're talking about trying to start a decal (student taught course) on Starcraft for next semester, so that'll be interesitng. There has also been a sponsored SC tourney for the past two semesters, and it’ll most likely happen again next semester (even if SC2 comes out before).


Do it! I'll totally take it.
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