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{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
April 18 2008 14:55 GMT
#1
So I just read and heard about the Earthquake in Illinois and I find it interesting that yesterday I had found my cat Mookie in the corner of the backyard highly agitated and constantly meowing his tail wasn't puffed up so I figured he wasn't chased by dogs. So I finally brought him in and he didn;t eat anything and just hid everywhere until finally sitting still in a chair and an occasional meow. Learned from my Gf that that he started meowing at 4am this morning according to Bloomberg the quake hit at 4:37 this morning.

Since then Mookie is back to normal.

Can animals from 6 hours away detect when things will happen like an Earthquake?

"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
gusbear
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
333 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-04-18 15:26:32
April 18 2008 15:07 GMT
#2
not earthquakes, scienists cant even give accurate quake forecasts. But animals may be able to forecast weather events like storms by sensing changes in pressure and temps etc (much like how humans can tell to a certain extent when a storm is brewing)

edit: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Earthquake_prediction

Theres a section on animals, although I would rather count this as "pre-detection" instead of "prediction"

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=0ONJfp95yoE
DwmC_Foefen
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
Belgium2186 Posts
April 18 2008 15:12 GMT
#3
Bah why cant humans have all these traits? :p

But yeah it is said that animals can sense this stuff hours beforehand
minus_human
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
4784 Posts
April 18 2008 15:16 GMT
#4
Well I am almost sure this is plausible, even though the distance seems so big.

Normally, if earthquakes start gradually, animals could surely sense the small imperceptible vibrations long before the large-scale vibrations would occur.

I really don't know anything about earthquakes, however I am guessing they affect quite a large area, and only the smaller zone right on top of the epicenter would really suffer relative damage.
Naib
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
Hungary4904 Posts
April 18 2008 15:40 GMT
#5
On April 19 2008 00:12 DwmC_Foefen wrote:
Bah why cant humans have all these traits? :p



Because God picked Bloody Mess as a trait for us instead of this (shame on you if you don't get this sentence!).
Complete the cycle!
omgbnetsux
Profile Blog Joined April 2004
United States3749 Posts
April 18 2008 15:52 GMT
#6
On April 19 2008 00:40 Naib wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 19 2008 00:12 DwmC_Foefen wrote:
Bah why cant humans have all these traits? :p



Because God picked Bloody Mess as a trait for us instead of this (shame on you if you don't get this sentence!).

I was really hoping for the gigolo trait personally.
BluzMan
Profile Blog Joined April 2006
Russian Federation4235 Posts
April 18 2008 16:09 GMT
#7
Cats hear below 20 hz.
We don't hear below 20 hz.
Cats have better ear sensitivity.

Ez.


But in no way, in no twisted universe cats can "predict" earthquakes and do anything that proper equipment doesn't do better.
You want 20 good men, but you need a bad pussy.
zer0das
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States8519 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-04-18 16:43:18
April 18 2008 16:30 GMT
#8
That's assuming the sensitivity of the instrumentation is better than that of whatever mechanism animals use to detect earthquakes and that they are detecting the same thing. Some human made detectors rely on detecting the preceding wave before the shear wave messes up everything. If animals start acting strangely long before then, then they are probably detecting the same phenomena much faster or are detecting something else that precedes even the first wave.

Personally I think it's nonsense to think animals cannot detect earthquakes. There's enough cases of animals acting bonkers beforehand to demonstrate this fact. The Chinese have even used it to predict earthquakes.

6 hours is quite a distance away though. But I guess it could happen.
BluzMan
Profile Blog Joined April 2006
Russian Federation4235 Posts
April 18 2008 16:56 GMT
#9
Wake up.

Noone is saying that animals don't feel the initial effect of whatever phenomena better than humans do due to heightened senses. That is a known fact. The other known fact is that human-made tools can detect things like individual atoms and beyond. Yes, with a crappy seismograph that is older than dirt you might not be able to detect an incoming earthquake long beforehand. You also won't detect it if the operator is sleeping, drunk or playing blackjack with his coworkers. But saying that modern, properly operated equipment could be inferior to a cat is nonsense. The only thing of value in your post is that we really don't known the full earthquake mechanism, that is true. But whatever shape it manifests in, be it radiation, acoustic vibration or temperature fluctuations, we can measure all those things better than any animal in the world possibly can.
You want 20 good men, but you need a bad pussy.
EmeraldSparks
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United States1451 Posts
April 18 2008 17:27 GMT
#10
A fly can fly more effectively than any human-made robot of comparable size in the world. Any biological creature with legs can run faster than any artificial one. Most birds can fly in worse conditions than any artificial flier can deal with. A chameleon can stick flies faster than any computer. It's not just the "hardware." It's also the "software" and how you bring it all together.
But why?
BluzMan
Profile Blog Joined April 2006
Russian Federation4235 Posts
April 18 2008 17:53 GMT
#11
FOR THE FUCK'S SAKE READ.

Not fly, not run, not stick flies. MEASURE.
You want 20 good men, but you need a bad pussy.
EmeraldSparks
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United States1451 Posts
April 18 2008 18:16 GMT
#12
It's conceivable that the cat can synthesize its measurements, or extract a signal from them, in a way scientists haven't yet learned how to do.
But why?
BluzMan
Profile Blog Joined April 2006
Russian Federation4235 Posts
April 18 2008 18:21 GMT
#13
Oh my god.
You want 20 good men, but you need a bad pussy.
EmeraldSparks
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United States1451 Posts
April 18 2008 18:26 GMT
#14
Yes?
But why?
EmeraldSparks
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United States1451 Posts
April 18 2008 18:31 GMT
#15
Look, when a computer can't read

[image loading]


I find it hard to believe that computer analysis has managed to completely pawn all over biology.
But why?
omgbnetsux
Profile Blog Joined April 2004
United States3749 Posts
April 18 2008 18:41 GMT
#16
On April 19 2008 03:31 EmeraldSparks wrote:
Look, when a computer can't read

[image loading]


I find it hard to believe that computer analysis has managed to completely pawn all over biology.

CAPTCHA has actually been broken on a lot of sites.
XCetron
Profile Joined November 2006
5226 Posts
April 18 2008 18:43 GMT
#17
because computer has no real intelligent as of yet, and also they're made by "biology" so their imperfections and flaws are only results of our own.
.MistiK
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
Netherlands347 Posts
April 18 2008 18:54 GMT
#18
On April 19 2008 02:53 BluzMan wrote:
FOR THE FUCK'S SAKE READ.

Not fly, not run, not stick flies. MEASURE.


hahahaha

you're my new favorite TLnet poster
man
Profile Joined November 2005
United States272 Posts
April 18 2008 19:00 GMT
#19
37 mins before the quake? I highly doubt that.
EmeraldSparks
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United States1451 Posts
April 18 2008 19:03 GMT
#20
You can always make a even more disgusting captcha. Add sparkles and multicolors and random shapes and lines and whatnot and what it takes millions of lines for computers to do you will *still* be able to do in in a few seconds.
But why?
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