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Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States6722 Posts
February 16 2008 02:03 GMT
#1
Looking to get rid of my wow account. LvL 70 UD Mage on the US PvP server Tichondrius, it's open for server/account transfering, about 2.5k gold on character and flying mount. Armory currently showing my raid gear. Also got just under 5k arena points banked and a very solid PvP gear set up including pieces from both arena 1 and 2 sets as well as crafted epics all jeweled and enchanted to the tits.

The transaction will be a completely legal transfer of ownership as stated in the Blizzard EULA.

Any questions send me a pm or msg me on aim at ArtofAlone.

http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Tichondrius&n=Misplaced

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Snet *
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
United States3573 Posts
February 16 2008 02:34 GMT
#2
Goodluck, although I doubt a hardcore BW community will give you any customers.

I think accounts are alot harder to sell with the arena system, compared to before. Basically only an epic mount will give you a slight edge over the hundreds of other accounts for sale.

If you sell your account for enough money to break even with your past subscription fees you will have done well.
blabber
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States4448 Posts
February 16 2008 02:39 GMT
#3
I'll offer $100

also if you're really serious about selling it, please don't tell me TL is the only place you're advertising it
blabberrrrr
NotSorry
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States6722 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-02-16 03:14:59
February 16 2008 03:12 GMT
#4
I'm posting it on a few random places. I know TL has a lot of wow players so just added it in.

Suggestions on other places to post?
We have now sunk to a depth at which restatement of the obvious is the first duty of intelligent men. - Orwell
NotSorry
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States6722 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-02-16 03:16:13
February 16 2008 03:15 GMT
#5
On February 16 2008 11:34 Snet wrote:
Goodluck, although I doubt a hardcore BW community will give you any customers.

I think accounts are alot harder to sell with the arena system, compared to before. Basically only an epic mount will give you a slight edge over the hundreds of other accounts for sale.

If you sell your account for enough money to break even with your past subscription fees you will have done well.

Thats easy lol, I was getting 1200-1600 per account for awhile and I've only payed like 400-500 in script fees for the last 3 years.
We have now sunk to a depth at which restatement of the obvious is the first duty of intelligent men. - Orwell
jimminy_kriket
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Canada5498 Posts
February 16 2008 03:21 GMT
#6
$1200-1600 for a wow account? You have to be kidding me.
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So no fek
Profile Blog Joined June 2005
United States3001 Posts
February 16 2008 03:37 GMT
#7
Man, the gear is solid, it's a class I want to play, and it's on a server that I have friends on. >_<

If I had more money, I'd definitely make a serious offer, but at the moment, I can't offer much at all.
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Jibba
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States22883 Posts
February 16 2008 03:55 GMT
#8
On February 16 2008 12:21 jimminy_kriket wrote:
$1200-1600 for a wow account? You have to be kidding me.

I've sold several characters for over $1k (1,800 being the highest), but it was a character with perfect PvP gear and nearly perfect PvE gear (before most people had it), along with a ton of gold and all the trimmings. PvP characters usually don't get very much though. The titles/mounts are easy to get and anyone can get a full set, so you really need great PvE gear to get a good average offer (it's always possible to find an idiot who will overpay.)

mmobay is what I used.

As for "making money" selling WoW characters, you might have only paid $300-400 in subscription fees, but when you check your /played, you'll find you're making like 50 cents per hour. Selling accounts is like a tax refund check, after you've wasted way too much time/effort playing the awful game.
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NotSorry
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States6722 Posts
February 16 2008 03:56 GMT
#9
On February 16 2008 12:37 So no fek wrote:
Man, the gear is solid, it's a class I want to play, and it's on a server that I have friends on. >_<

If I had more money, I'd definitely make a serious offer, but at the moment, I can't offer much at all.

Well if things change hit me up, in no rush.
We have now sunk to a depth at which restatement of the obvious is the first duty of intelligent men. - Orwell
NotSorry
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States6722 Posts
February 16 2008 04:02 GMT
#10
On February 16 2008 12:55 Jibba wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 16 2008 12:21 jimminy_kriket wrote:
$1200-1600 for a wow account? You have to be kidding me.

I've sold several characters for over $1k (1,800 being the highest), but it was a character with perfect PvP gear and nearly perfect PvE gear (before most people had it), along with a ton of gold and all the trimmings. PvP characters usually don't get very much though. The titles/mounts are easy to get and anyone can get a full set, so you really need great PvE gear to get a good average offer (it's always possible to find an idiot who will overpay.)

mmobay is what I used.

As for "making money" selling WoW characters, you might have only paid $300-400 in subscription fees, but when you check your /played, you'll find you're making like 50 cents per hour. Selling accounts is like a tax refund check, after you've wasted way too much time/effort playing the awful game.

Oh yea for sure, you're making barely .50/hr at best, but for the time I would rather play wow 12hours a day than work 6-8 at a job. I haven't touched this account since July. At the time of quitting this was the best geared pve mage on the server. Money isn't an issue, more just getting rid of it since the expansion is coming and if I keep it I'll most likely get sucked back into playing again.
We have now sunk to a depth at which restatement of the obvious is the first duty of intelligent men. - Orwell
Drowsy
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
United States4876 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-02-16 04:03:59
February 16 2008 04:02 GMT
#11
Sorry to hijack your thread, I used to play on tichondrius too, never raided in BC, only back in original wow. I've got a 70 warlock with a normal flying mount and a 65 rogue, both very poorly geared cause I haven't played in about a year. How much do you think I could fetch for it? Where are the best spots to advertise? Will just grinding my rogue out to 70 increase the value pretty dramatically?

On February 16 2008 12:37 So no fek wrote:
Man, the gear is solid, it's a class I want to play, and it's on a server that I have friends on. >_<

If I had more money, I'd definitely make a serious offer, but at the moment, I can't offer much at all.


I'll sell you mine, just make me an offer, obviously mine will be worth a lot less than OP's.
Our Protoss, Who art in Aiur HongUn be Thy name; Thy stalker come, Thy will be blunk, on ladder as it is in Micro Tourny. Give us this win in our daily ladder, and forgive us our cheeses, As we forgive those who play zerg against us.
NotSorry
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States6722 Posts
February 16 2008 04:03 GMT
#12
On February 16 2008 13:02 Drowsy wrote:
Sorry to hijack your thread, I used to play on tichondrius too, never raided in BC, only back in original wow. I've got a 70 warlock with a normal flying mount and a 65 rogue, both very poorly geared cause I haven't played in about a year. How much do you think I could fetch for it? Where are the best spots to advertise? Will just grinding my rogue out to 70 increase the value pretty dramatically?

Grind it to 70, get a 2nd account move it. Sell it as 2 accounts instead of one you'll get more for it.
We have now sunk to a depth at which restatement of the obvious is the first duty of intelligent men. - Orwell
Drowsy
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
United States4876 Posts
February 16 2008 04:04 GMT
#13
On February 16 2008 13:03 NotSorry wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 16 2008 13:02 Drowsy wrote:
Sorry to hijack your thread, I used to play on tichondrius too, never raided in BC, only back in original wow. I've got a 70 warlock with a normal flying mount and a 65 rogue, both very poorly geared cause I haven't played in about a year. How much do you think I could fetch for it? Where are the best spots to advertise? Will just grinding my rogue out to 70 increase the value pretty dramatically?

Grind it to 70, get a 2nd account move it. Sell it as 2 accounts instead of one you'll get more for it.



I've got mostly just 5 man blues from a year ago, can you give me a price figure?
Our Protoss, Who art in Aiur HongUn be Thy name; Thy stalker come, Thy will be blunk, on ladder as it is in Micro Tourny. Give us this win in our daily ladder, and forgive us our cheeses, As we forgive those who play zerg against us.
Jibba
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States22883 Posts
February 16 2008 04:05 GMT
#14
On February 16 2008 13:02 NotSorry wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 16 2008 12:55 Jibba wrote:
On February 16 2008 12:21 jimminy_kriket wrote:
$1200-1600 for a wow account? You have to be kidding me.

I've sold several characters for over $1k (1,800 being the highest), but it was a character with perfect PvP gear and nearly perfect PvE gear (before most people had it), along with a ton of gold and all the trimmings. PvP characters usually don't get very much though. The titles/mounts are easy to get and anyone can get a full set, so you really need great PvE gear to get a good average offer (it's always possible to find an idiot who will overpay.)

mmobay is what I used.

As for "making money" selling WoW characters, you might have only paid $300-400 in subscription fees, but when you check your /played, you'll find you're making like 50 cents per hour. Selling accounts is like a tax refund check, after you've wasted way too much time/effort playing the awful game.

Oh yea for sure, you're making barely .50/hr at best, but for the time I would rather play wow 12hours a day than work 6-8 at a job.
Depends on the job, but WoW is more of an opiate than an actual game. Most of the time is spent bored out of your mind jumping on the bank and shit.

And that gear was cheating. Bullshit tailoring at the start of TBC.
ModeratorNow I'm distant, dark in this anthrobeat
Drowsy
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
United States4876 Posts
February 16 2008 04:10 GMT
#15
On February 16 2008 13:05 Jibba wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 16 2008 13:02 NotSorry wrote:
On February 16 2008 12:55 Jibba wrote:
On February 16 2008 12:21 jimminy_kriket wrote:
$1200-1600 for a wow account? You have to be kidding me.

I've sold several characters for over $1k (1,800 being the highest), but it was a character with perfect PvP gear and nearly perfect PvE gear (before most people had it), along with a ton of gold and all the trimmings. PvP characters usually don't get very much though. The titles/mounts are easy to get and anyone can get a full set, so you really need great PvE gear to get a good average offer (it's always possible to find an idiot who will overpay.)

mmobay is what I used.

As for "making money" selling WoW characters, you might have only paid $300-400 in subscription fees, but when you check your /played, you'll find you're making like 50 cents per hour. Selling accounts is like a tax refund check, after you've wasted way too much time/effort playing the awful game.

Oh yea for sure, you're making barely .50/hr at best, but for the time I would rather play wow 12hours a day than work 6-8 at a job.
Depends on the job, but WoW is more of an opiate than an actual game. Most of the time is spent bored out of your mind jumping on the bank and shit.

And that gear was cheating. Bullshit tailoring at the start of TBC.



There is nothing I regret in my life more than the time I spent playing wow, I want some god damn monies for it now! The only thing worse I could have spent like 90 days of my life on would be starting at a wall or dying of cancer or something.
Our Protoss, Who art in Aiur HongUn be Thy name; Thy stalker come, Thy will be blunk, on ladder as it is in Micro Tourny. Give us this win in our daily ladder, and forgive us our cheeses, As we forgive those who play zerg against us.
Energies
Profile Blog Joined September 2003
Australia3225 Posts
February 16 2008 04:14 GMT
#16
* Hydraxian Waterlords
* 2143/21000
* Revered

You're not worthy.
"Everybody wanna be a bodybuilder but dont nobody wanna lift no heavy ass weight" - Ronnie Coleman.
So no fek
Profile Blog Joined June 2005
United States3001 Posts
February 16 2008 04:14 GMT
#17
Honestly, the most I would be able to seriously consider offering, for any account, at the moment is like $100. And you could probably sell your account for more than that, even to IGE, or something. :p
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Energies
Profile Blog Joined September 2003
Australia3225 Posts
February 16 2008 04:31 GMT
#18
On February 16 2008 13:14 So no fek wrote:
Honestly, the most I would be able to seriously consider offering, for any account, at the moment is like $100. And you could probably sell your account for more than that, even to IGE, or something. :p


If you think about it, you're paying for a copy of world of warcraft and the burning crusade, you're also paying for all the gold he has, and for his time.

I just checked IGE for his faction and server.

2,500.00 gold sells for about $175.00 (192 AUD) Not to mention how much gold he has spent on his talents and mounts. Lets just say $300 (AUD) worth, just as a start
Just checked EBGames, to buy wow and tbc would cost $70.00 (AUD)
$15 for first months subscription.

You're looking at $277.00 (Aud) just to get started, and then it takes anywhere between 190 to 300 hours to level that thing to 70 depending on the class/server/faction.

Even if you were getting paid $1/hour to level, it still makes it very expensive.

I'm against buying toons if you play wow, half the fun of the game is leveling, but I'm just saying, if you are thinking of buying, its crazy and I'd never do it, but the price is justified.
"Everybody wanna be a bodybuilder but dont nobody wanna lift no heavy ass weight" - Ronnie Coleman.
NotSorry
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States6722 Posts
February 16 2008 04:48 GMT
#19
On February 16 2008 13:05 Jibba wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 16 2008 13:02 NotSorry wrote:
On February 16 2008 12:55 Jibba wrote:
On February 16 2008 12:21 jimminy_kriket wrote:
$1200-1600 for a wow account? You have to be kidding me.

I've sold several characters for over $1k (1,800 being the highest), but it was a character with perfect PvP gear and nearly perfect PvE gear (before most people had it), along with a ton of gold and all the trimmings. PvP characters usually don't get very much though. The titles/mounts are easy to get and anyone can get a full set, so you really need great PvE gear to get a good average offer (it's always possible to find an idiot who will overpay.)

mmobay is what I used.

As for "making money" selling WoW characters, you might have only paid $300-400 in subscription fees, but when you check your /played, you'll find you're making like 50 cents per hour. Selling accounts is like a tax refund check, after you've wasted way too much time/effort playing the awful game.

Oh yea for sure, you're making barely .50/hr at best, but for the time I would rather play wow 12hours a day than work 6-8 at a job.
Depends on the job, but WoW is more of an opiate than an actual game. Most of the time is spent bored out of your mind jumping on the bank and shit.

And that gear was cheating. Bullshit tailoring at the start of TBC.

Seriously I started out as JC/Miner then started raiding and spent over 10k gold getting my tailoring up
We have now sunk to a depth at which restatement of the obvious is the first duty of intelligent men. - Orwell
Puosu
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
6984 Posts
February 16 2008 04:54 GMT
#20
On February 16 2008 11:03 NotSorry wrote:
The transaction will be a completely legal transfer of ownership as stated in the Blizzard EULA.

hm?
there is no legal way to trade a WoW account..
So no fek
Profile Blog Joined June 2005
United States3001 Posts
February 16 2008 04:59 GMT
#21
On February 16 2008 13:31 Energies wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 16 2008 13:14 So no fek wrote:
Honestly, the most I would be able to seriously consider offering, for any account, at the moment is like $100. And you could probably sell your account for more than that, even to IGE, or something. :p


If you think about it, you're paying for a copy of world of warcraft and the burning crusade, you're also paying for all the gold he has, and for his time.

I just checked IGE for his faction and server.

2,500.00 gold sells for about $175.00 (192 AUD) Not to mention how much gold he has spent on his talents and mounts. Lets just say $300 (AUD) worth, just as a start
Just checked EBGames, to buy wow and tbc would cost $70.00 (AUD)
$15 for first months subscription.

You're looking at $277.00 (Aud) just to get started, and then it takes anywhere between 190 to 300 hours to level that thing to 70 depending on the class/server/faction.

Even if you were getting paid $1/hour to level, it still makes it very expensive.

I'm against buying toons if you play wow, half the fun of the game is leveling, but I'm just saying, if you are thinking of buying, its crazy and I'd never do it, but the price is justified.


I know, and if I had the money, I'd pay for it. But I don't. Thus, $100 is the most I'd be able to offer at this point.
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NotSorry
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States6722 Posts
February 16 2008 05:17 GMT
#22
On February 16 2008 13:54 Puosu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 16 2008 11:03 NotSorry wrote:
The transaction will be a completely legal transfer of ownership as stated in the Blizzard EULA.

hm?
there is no legal way to trade a WoW account..

You have to give over complete owner ship. In reality you are selling the CD/Booklet and CDkey that the account is on, not the account itself. The transfer of ownership is legal. Selling a random item/gold or character is illegal.
We have now sunk to a depth at which restatement of the obvious is the first duty of intelligent men. - Orwell
NotSorry
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States6722 Posts
February 16 2008 05:28 GMT
#23
Any suggestions on sites to post the info?
We have now sunk to a depth at which restatement of the obvious is the first duty of intelligent men. - Orwell
NarutO
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
Germany18839 Posts
February 16 2008 06:21 GMT
#24
ROFL BAN FOR THAT USER >.< OMG WOW
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jonhan
Profile Joined February 2008
Australia14 Posts
February 16 2008 08:22 GMT
#25
On February 16 2008 14:17 NotSorry wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 16 2008 13:54 Puosu wrote:
On February 16 2008 11:03 NotSorry wrote:
The transaction will be a completely legal transfer of ownership as stated in the Blizzard EULA.

hm?
there is no legal way to trade a WoW account..

You have to give over complete owner ship. In reality you are selling the CD/Booklet and CDkey that the account is on, not the account itself. The transfer of ownership is legal. Selling a random item/gold or character is illegal.

Just thought I'd point out that it is infact illegal under the EULA.

8. Ownership/Selling of the Account or Virtual Items.
Blizzard does not recognize the transfer of Accounts. You may not purchase, sell, gift or trade any Account, or offer to purchase, sell, gift or trade any Account, and any such attempt shall be null and void. Blizzard owns, has licensed, or otherwise has rights to all of the content that appears in the Program. You agree that you have no right or title in or to any such content, including the virtual goods or currency appearing or originating in the Game, or any other attributes associated with the Account or stored on the Service. Blizzard does not recognize any virtual property transfers executed outside of the Game or the purported sale, gift or trade in the "real world" of anything related to the Game. Accordingly, you may not sell items for "real" money or otherwise exchange items for value outside of the Game.
http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/legal/termsofuse.html
fight_or_flight
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States3988 Posts
February 16 2008 08:56 GMT
#26
Its not a big deal. I think that this is mainly here to keep people who get scammed from complaining to blizzard.
Do you really want chat rooms?
Macavenger
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United States1132 Posts
February 16 2008 09:28 GMT
#27
On February 16 2008 13:02 NotSorry wrote:
At the time of quitting this was the best geared pve mage on the server.


Sorry, but there's no way a 3/3 Spellfire and 2/2 Spellstrike was the best PvE gear on Tich last July. I played on Hyjal, which was also a day 1 server, and one with crap progression for a day 1 PvE server at that, and I could probably name a dozen Mage friends who had better gear than that in July. I'm assuming you probably just didn't ever raid past Magtheridon (I see you have his wand). Until about there the crafted stuff is ok, but as you get into SSC/TK you'd realize the lack of stamina causes it to massively blow. :p T4 is easily better in most if not all slots. As a Mage crafted gear will get you killed horribly on Hydross or Tidewalker, and is extremely risky on Leotheras and Karathress.
NotSorry
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States6722 Posts
February 16 2008 12:04 GMT
#28
On February 16 2008 18:28 Macavenger wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 16 2008 13:02 NotSorry wrote:
At the time of quitting this was the best geared pve mage on the server.


Sorry, but there's no way a 3/3 Spellfire and 2/2 Spellstrike was the best PvE gear on Tich last July. I played on Hyjal, which was also a day 1 server, and one with crap progression for a day 1 PvE server at that, and I could probably name a dozen Mage friends who had better gear than that in July. I'm assuming you probably just didn't ever raid past Magtheridon (I see you have his wand). Until about there the crafted stuff is ok, but as you get into SSC/TK you'd realize the lack of stamina causes it to massively blow. :p T4 is easily better in most if not all slots. As a Mage crafted gear will get you killed horribly on Hydross or Tidewalker, and is extremely risky on Leotheras and Karathress.
Sorry but you fail at trying to discredit. Check Blood Legion, you'll see me standing over Vashj's corpse before the first tich guilds even got to passed Tidewalker. I take it you've never played a mage to begin with. Nor raided top end until months after the first clears and the strats are posted on every website. You're bashing off of seeing one set of gear that is based for damage, and at the time(before all ssc/tk and above items were buffed to all hell) was considered insanely overpowered and had the whole forums crying for tailoring nerfs. Comparing how things are today as to how they were over 6months ago doesn't work.
We have now sunk to a depth at which restatement of the obvious is the first duty of intelligent men. - Orwell
NotSorry
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States6722 Posts
February 16 2008 12:10 GMT
#29
On February 16 2008 17:22 jonhan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 16 2008 14:17 NotSorry wrote:
On February 16 2008 13:54 Puosu wrote:
On February 16 2008 11:03 NotSorry wrote:
The transaction will be a completely legal transfer of ownership as stated in the Blizzard EULA.

hm?
there is no legal way to trade a WoW account..

You have to give over complete owner ship. In reality you are selling the CD/Booklet and CDkey that the account is on, not the account itself. The transfer of ownership is legal. Selling a random item/gold or character is illegal.

Just thought I'd point out that it is infact illegal under the EULA.

8. Ownership/Selling of the Account or Virtual Items.
Blizzard does not recognize the transfer of Accounts. You may not purchase, sell, gift or trade any Account, or offer to purchase, sell, gift or trade any Account, and any such attempt shall be null and void. Blizzard owns, has licensed, or otherwise has rights to all of the content that appears in the Program. You agree that you have no right or title in or to any such content, including the virtual goods or currency appearing or originating in the Game, or any other attributes associated with the Account or stored on the Service. Blizzard does not recognize any virtual property transfers executed outside of the Game or the purported sale, gift or trade in the "real world" of anything related to the Game. Accordingly, you may not sell items for "real" money or otherwise exchange items for value outside of the Game.
http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/legal/termsofuse.html
Notice there the talked about is "virtual items" never once says anything about game transfer. Keep reading the EULA. It's true selling items/accounts is not allowed. However there is absolutely nothing wrong with selling my copy of the game with the cdkey attached to it, which happens to have said accounts on it. It's the same way people have gotten passed Ebay for so many years.
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ZhenMiChan
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
Netherlands1181 Posts
February 16 2008 14:43 GMT
#30
its not allowed

they will get you, and 1k+ for an account your lying
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chicken`
Profile Joined January 2004
Germany3478 Posts
February 16 2008 14:59 GMT
#31
why the fuck would you spend loads of money on a wow acc when there will be an item wipe soon anyway when WotLK will be released
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Jibba
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States22883 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-02-16 15:11:56
February 16 2008 15:09 GMT
#32
On February 16 2008 18:28 Macavenger wrote:
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On February 16 2008 13:02 NotSorry wrote:
At the time of quitting this was the best geared pve mage on the server.


Sorry, but there's no way a 3/3 Spellfire and 2/2 Spellstrike was the best PvE gear on Tich last July. I played on Hyjal, which was also a day 1 server, and one with crap progression for a day 1 PvE server at that, and I could probably name a dozen Mage friends who had better gear than that in July. I'm assuming you probably just didn't ever raid past Magtheridon (I see you have his wand). Until about there the crafted stuff is ok, but as you get into SSC/TK you'd realize the lack of stamina causes it to massively blow. :p T4 is easily better in most if not all slots. As a Mage crafted gear will get you killed horribly on Hydross or Tidewalker, and is extremely risky on Leotheras and Karathress.

Not to derail the thread further, but not really. Our mages only started replacing the tailored stuff when we were getting t6, and then t5 to fill in the gaps when they broke the sets. But yeah, that stuff definitely wasn't the best in July, since everyone was in BT/Hyjal then.

And selling/trading account ownership is totally against the EULA. Doesn't matter if the game is included or no.
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jonhan
Profile Joined February 2008
Australia14 Posts
February 16 2008 15:39 GMT
#33
On February 16 2008 21:10 NotSorry wrote:
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On February 16 2008 17:22 jonhan wrote:
On February 16 2008 14:17 NotSorry wrote:
On February 16 2008 13:54 Puosu wrote:
On February 16 2008 11:03 NotSorry wrote:
The transaction will be a completely legal transfer of ownership as stated in the Blizzard EULA.

hm?
there is no legal way to trade a WoW account..

You have to give over complete owner ship. In reality you are selling the CD/Booklet and CDkey that the account is on, not the account itself. The transfer of ownership is legal. Selling a random item/gold or character is illegal.

Just thought I'd point out that it is infact illegal under the EULA.

8. Ownership/Selling of the Account or Virtual Items.
Blizzard does not recognize the transfer of Accounts. You may not purchase, sell, gift or trade any Account, or offer to purchase, sell, gift or trade any Account, and any such attempt shall be null and void. Blizzard owns, has licensed, or otherwise has rights to all of the content that appears in the Program. You agree that you have no right or title in or to any such content, including the virtual goods or currency appearing or originating in the Game, or any other attributes associated with the Account or stored on the Service. Blizzard does not recognize any virtual property transfers executed outside of the Game or the purported sale, gift or trade in the "real world" of anything related to the Game. Accordingly, you may not sell items for "real" money or otherwise exchange items for value outside of the Game.
http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/legal/termsofuse.html
Notice there the talked about is "virtual items" never once says anything about game transfer. Keep reading the EULA. It's true selling items/accounts is not allowed. However there is absolutely nothing wrong with selling my copy of the game with the cdkey attached to it, which happens to have said accounts on it. It's the same way people have gotten passed Ebay for so many years.

Selling an account is illegal, it does not matter if you're including the cd-key. And "people have gotten passed Ebay for so many years" was because Blizzard didn't take action, it was illegal. Try listing that at eBay, it will get taken down because it's against Blizzard's EULA. They also filed a lawsuit against some chinese gold spammers, although it's illegal to sell gold, it was only after the lawsuit when it was prohibited. My friends sell accounts all the time, nothing wrong with it. But there's no reason to feign ignorance.
Krohm
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Canada1857 Posts
February 16 2008 17:12 GMT
#34
So Jonhan are you saying once you buy your copy of WoW you're stuck with it for life. You cannot sell your game to anyone? Ever?

That's pretty messed up, Blizzard better have a pretty big and solid legal team if they want to sue some one for selling there copy of WoW to another person...


You see that's the loop hole. He's not actually selling the character... even though he clearly "is". Hes just selling the copy of the game/key that the character is on.
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jonhan
Profile Joined February 2008
Australia14 Posts
February 16 2008 17:35 GMT
#35
There's nothing in the eula that states you cannot sell the copy of the cd or the activation key. What it says is you cannot sell the account (information pertaining to the login of said account).

Selling cd/activation key = not selling account. Check
Selling cd/activation key+account information = selling account. No check
Selling account information = selling account. No check.

Hope that helps.
Krohm
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Canada1857 Posts
February 17 2008 01:34 GMT
#36
No, no. Unlike say Warcraft 3, and Starcraft. Accounts are tied with the CD-Key being used.

So unless in the EULA it says "In order to sell or trade your CD-Key, you must deleted all information tied to the CD-Key being traded or sold first." (Or something along those rough lines.)

So do you even get what I'm saying?
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Hypnosis
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States2061 Posts
February 17 2008 05:05 GMT
#37
On February 16 2008 12:55 Jibba wrote:
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On February 16 2008 12:21 jimminy_kriket wrote:
$1200-1600 for a wow account? You have to be kidding me.

.

As for "making money" selling WoW characters, you might have only paid $300-400 in subscription fees, but when you check your /played, you'll find you're making like 50 cents per hour. Selling accounts is like a tax refund check, after you've wasted way too much time/effort playing the awful game.


the thing is thats teh same bullshit thoery of "if you saved all your money you would be super rich". No shit, but getting a few hundred dollars for something that was entertainment for a long time is worth it right?
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So no fek
Profile Blog Joined June 2005
United States3001 Posts
February 17 2008 06:07 GMT
#38
They do say you can transfer physical ownership of the game, and all the contents with it, if you fully remove it from your computer. However, it's worthless, as Blizzard maintains ownership of the account (they're just leasing accounts, or something), and you can't create a new account with a CD code that has already been used. It's pretty sucky. Pretty much, it's a risk buying this, if they find out that the people playing the account have changed, they will ban the user, with very few exceptions.
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Jibba
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States22883 Posts
February 17 2008 06:20 GMT
#39
On February 17 2008 14:05 Hypnosis wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 16 2008 12:55 Jibba wrote:
On February 16 2008 12:21 jimminy_kriket wrote:
$1200-1600 for a wow account? You have to be kidding me.

.

As for "making money" selling WoW characters, you might have only paid $300-400 in subscription fees, but when you check your /played, you'll find you're making like 50 cents per hour. Selling accounts is like a tax refund check, after you've wasted way too much time/effort playing the awful game.


the thing is thats teh same bullshit thoery of "if you saved all your money you would be super rich". No shit, but getting a few hundred dollars for something that was entertainment for a long time is worth it right?

No. The people that have accounts that sell for $1k+ are sacrificing a huge part of their personal life to get those accounts, and probably hurting their job status as well. It's not like you're playing 2 hours a day for recreation and in the end you get to benefit from your enjoyment. You're playing 8+ hours a day and throwing your life away to get t6 before everyone else.

The even sadder part is that so many people still play those types of hours, and they're not even very progressed.
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Epicfailguy
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
Norway893 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-02-17 14:46:59
February 17 2008 14:44 GMT
#40
I sold my warrior for 5.000 Norwegian crowns, which equals about 1000 USD, its more expensive than you think.

Edit: Not to piss on your parade or anything, but buying these accounts isnt safe at all.
In the end, its the original owner and his personal information which determines who the owner really is.
Unless you feel you can trust the seller, stay the fuck away from buying wow accounts.
Its so easy for the seller to get the account back, and you're left with nothing.

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