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Germany2044 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-02-10 17:14:28
February 10 2008 17:13 GMT
#1
teamliquid.net은 전세계의 스타크래프트를 사랑하는 사람들이 모여 만든 커뮤니티 사이트입니다. 저희 teamliquid 데이타베이스에는 스타크래프트 선수들 및 팀에 관련된 정보와 통계 자료들이 전부 빠짐없이 수록되어 있으며, 또한 이 곳에서는 현존하는 모든 게임 vod를 무료로 감상하실 수가 있습니다.
본 데이타베이스는 가입을 하지 않아도 모든 서비스의 이용이 가능하다는 장점을 가지고 있으며, 스타크래프트 한국 팬들과의 친목 도모 및 정보 교류의 취지에서 저희는 오늘과 같은 자리를 마련하고 여러분들을 아래의 사이트로 초대하고자 하는 바입니다.

http://www.teamliquid.net

데이타베이스가 애초에 전부 영어로 제작된 점을 고려해 TLPD (TeamLiquid Progaming Database)의 사용 방법을 아래와 같이 미리 한 번 준비해 보았습니다.
설명을 돕기 위해 지금부터 여러분이 마재윤 선수의 과거 특정 경기를 다시 보려고 하시는 경우를 생각해 보겠습니다. 먼저, www.teamliquid.net에 가셔서 스크린 우측 중간쯤에 위치한 검색창을 찾습니다.


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검색창을 찾으셨으면 이제 거기다 찾으시고자 하는 선수의 한글 이름이나 영어 ID를 넣어주시면 됩니다. (예: 마재윤, 또는 sAviOr)


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그럼 다음과 같은 화면이 뜨면서 해당 검색 결과물을 보여줍니다.
이 때, 마재윤 선수의 ID를 클릭하시면 마재윤 선수의 개인 정보 페이지로 이동합니다.


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이 곳에는 마재윤 선수에 대한 정보가 상세히 기록되어 있으며, 그 밖에 화면 상단의 메뉴를 통해 이 때까지의 highlight videos (경기 하이라이트 장면), ceremony videos (경기 세레머니 동영상), 그리고 record & games (경기 전적 및 기록) 등이 확인 가능합니다.



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record & games를 클릭하시면 다음과 같은 리스트가 화면에 출력됩니다. 이 때, 아래로 보이는 경기 목록의 좌측에 표시된 노란 십자가 버튼을 클릭하면 해당 경기의 동영상을 볼 수 있는 사이트로 바로 이동하실 수 있게 됩니다. 단, 이 때 십자가 버튼이 노란색이 아니라 회색이라면 이것은 해당 경기에 대한 vod 서비스가 현재 제공되지 않고 있음을 뜻합니다.


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노란 십자가 버튼을 클릭 후 VOD라는 상단의 메뉴를 별도로 다시 한 번 클릭하시고 나면 다음과 같은 화면이 뜹니다. 이 곳에서는 동영상을 보는 것뿐만 아니라 화면 하단의 링크를 통해 동영상을 다운받아 보실 수도 있는데, 단, 동영상을 다운받으려 하시는 분들께서는 flv 파일을 지원하는 플레이어를 사용하셔야 동영상을 보실 수가 있습니다.



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또한 TLPD에서는 프로맵 전편을 다운받아 보시는 것이 가능합니다.



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그 밖에도 TLPD에는 아래와 같이 스타크래프트 프로팀들의 선수 명단 및 팀의 역사에 대한 자료가 정리되어 있으며,



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역대 KeSPA 랭킹에 대한 정보를 확인하실 수도 있게 되어 있습니다.


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http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/games에 가시면 최근에 열린 경기 결과를 보실 수가 있으며, 경기 스포일러를 원치 않으시는 분들께서는 상단의 full game list 라는 제목 아래의 'No Spoilers' 옆 빈칸에 체크하신 후 Update 버튼을 눌러주시면 되겠습니다.

질문 또는 건의할 사항이 있으신 분들께서는 이 곳 게시판에 직접 글을 올려주시거나 teamliquid.net 홈페이지에 가입해 글을 남겨 주십시오. 감사합니다!

그럼 즐거운 사용 되시길 바라겠습니다. ^ㅡ^



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@riotsnowbird
snowbird
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
Germany2044 Posts
February 10 2008 17:15 GMT
#2
#1
@riotsnowbird
Kennigit *
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
Canada19447 Posts
February 10 2008 17:15 GMT
#3
If this is what i think it is - you sir are a god. Thanks very much :D
RaGe
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
Belgium9949 Posts
February 10 2008 17:16 GMT
#4
post on every korean forum u know!
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Jathin
Profile Blog Joined February 2005
United States3505 Posts
February 10 2008 17:17 GMT
#5
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fusionsdf
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
Canada15390 Posts
February 10 2008 17:18 GMT
#6
its an advertisement for tlpd in korean that we've been trying to get for like a year
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grobo
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Japan6199 Posts
February 10 2008 17:19 GMT
#7
PoP is gonna love this.

Awesome!
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fusionsdf
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
Canada15390 Posts
February 10 2008 17:26 GMT
#8
awesome work snowbird
SKT_Best: "I actually chose Protoss because it was so hard for me to defeat Protoss as a Terran. When I first started Brood War, my main race was Terran."
SonuvBob
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
Aiur21550 Posts
February 10 2008 17:27 GMT
#9
<3 snowbird
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Puosu
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
6992 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-02-10 17:39:45
February 10 2008 17:39 GMT
#10
Snowbird you are awesome

Don't forget to give us the links to the forums you post this on, I want to see how they react.
fanatacist
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
10319 Posts
February 10 2008 17:43 GMT
#11
Very nice, great for the community n_n
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Live2Win *
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
United States6657 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-02-10 18:04:35
February 10 2008 18:03 GMT
#12
As amazing as this is.

Koreans have KeSPA website that pretty much does most of the features as TLPD. I think most of them will just use that.

But this 안내 is really nicely written.

EDIT: OH FUX NEVER MIND THEY DON'T HAVE VODS LOOOOOOOOOOOOL

TLPD > KeSPA
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alffla
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Hong Kong20321 Posts
February 10 2008 18:12 GMT
#13
nice
nice
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mikeymoo
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
Canada7170 Posts
February 10 2008 18:13 GMT
#14
On February 11 2008 02:15 Kennigit wrote:
If this is what i think it is - you sir are a god. Thanks very much :D


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PoP
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
France15446 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-02-10 18:51:47
February 10 2008 18:47 GMT
#15
Zomg. That's fantastic snowbird. I don't read korean but from the screenshots I can guess what stuff you described and I think it's great. I don't know if you can post this on some korean forums yourself, but that'd be <3.

L2W: KeSPA's site is quite bleh to be honest. afaik they don't have detailed map stats, league stats, they don't have filter options (other than players), VODs, etc. I think ygosu's database is far closer actually. But TLPD's still more useful/intuitive/featureful in my opinion (I'm probably extremely biased though ahah), so imho it's worth giving it a try and ask them how they'd like a full korean version of it.

Well, ideally we'd just point out what the TLPD does and ygosu/KeSPA don't. If I compile a little list, could you translate it and add it to your article before submitting it snowbird?

In any case, thanks a ton again.

P.S. : btw, seems like there's a little glitch with the page navigation buttons (just above the tables, the thing with "<< < [page number] > >>") on your comp. Could you tell me which browser you use?
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SonuvBob
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
Aiur21550 Posts
February 10 2008 19:24 GMT
#16
On February 11 2008 03:03 Live2Win wrote:
As amazing as this is.

Koreans have KeSPA website that pretty much does most of the features as TLPD. I think most of them will just use that.

But this 안내 is really nicely written.

EDIT: OH FUX NEVER MIND THEY DON'T HAVE VODS LOOOOOOOOOOOOL

TLPD > KeSPA

KeSPA has a great db (full official game list), but a godawful interface. The backend may very well be a text file instead of an actual db, since pretty much all you can do with it is get a list of a player's games.

ygosu's db has a much better interface than KeSPA's (and a better game list), but still not as intuitive as TLPD's. However, it's close enough that the Koreans probably won't care about TLPD. =/

Do you know when ygosu's db came out? Their betting thing only goes back to October.
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Titusmaster6
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States5937 Posts
February 10 2008 19:31 GMT
#17
No fucking way. This is unbelievable, way to go Snowbird, this is so good for TL.
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pyrogenetix
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
China5098 Posts
February 10 2008 19:56 GMT
#18
mother fuck this is incredible
Yea that looks just like Kang Min... amazing game sense... and uses mind games well, but has the micro of a washed up progamer.
PoP
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
France15446 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-02-10 20:07:29
February 10 2008 20:07 GMT
#19
I'm actually wondering whether ygosu's DB got inspiration from the TLPD. Tons of things are extremely similar. -_-

It's really good I must say. Bob might be right that Koreans might not care too much about the TLPD since they have something more than decent already.

I'm compiling a list of stuff we have and they don't have right now. (But there's also some stuff they have that we don't, esp the current leagues' brackets--we need this btw).
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GTR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
51507 Posts
February 10 2008 20:08 GMT
#20
cant wait till you link us where you posted these
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o3.power91
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
Bahrain5288 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-02-10 20:13:39
February 10 2008 20:13 GMT
#21
Nice Snowbird
LuMiX
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
China5757 Posts
February 10 2008 20:19 GMT
#22
good work snowbird =)
Cascade
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
Australia5405 Posts
February 10 2008 20:21 GMT
#23
wow! Great job on the ad!

So basically TL is not only the "top foreign pro-sc fansite", but also just "top pro-sc fansite"? omg, we pwn! ^^ At least PoP and snowbird do.
Xiberia
Profile Joined September 2007
Sweden634 Posts
February 10 2008 20:39 GMT
#24
Sexy. I think.
Carnac
Profile Blog Joined December 2003
Germany / USA16648 Posts
February 10 2008 21:18 GMT
#25
can someone link me to the ygosu database? i'm curious after a few of the comments i read here and I am totally incapable of navigating their site (and don't feel like go through all their navigation doing basically trial and error...).
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Reflex
Profile Joined March 2007
Canada703 Posts
February 10 2008 21:32 GMT
#26
On February 11 2008 05:07 PoP wrote:
I'm actually wondering whether ygosu's DB got inspiration from the TLPD. Tons of things are extremely similar. -_-

It's really good I must say. Bob might be right that Koreans might not care too much about the TLPD since they have something more than decent already.

I'm compiling a list of stuff we have and they don't have right now. (But there's also some stuff they have that we don't, esp the current leagues' brackets--we need this btw).


Maybe you could integrate ITW's progaming music thread into TLPD.
PoP
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
France15446 Posts
February 10 2008 21:37 GMT
#27
On February 11 2008 06:18 Carnac wrote:
can someone link me to the ygosu database? i'm curious after a few of the comments i read here and I am totally incapable of navigating their site (and don't feel like go through all their navigation doing basically trial and error...).


http://www.ygosu.com/?m=reports
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Carnac
Profile Blog Joined December 2003
Germany / USA16648 Posts
February 10 2008 21:50 GMT
#28
some striking similarities oO
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PoP
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
France15446 Posts
February 10 2008 21:53 GMT
#29
indeed
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IntoTheWow
Profile Blog Joined May 2004
is awesome32277 Posts
February 10 2008 22:27 GMT
#30
Nice snowbird!
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Dknight
Profile Blog Joined April 2005
United States5223 Posts
February 10 2008 22:43 GMT
#31
As similar as the reports section may be between TLPD and YGDB, how else could you organize them that still shows the same information without it being similar?
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pachi
Profile Joined October 2006
Melbourne5338 Posts
February 10 2008 23:09 GMT
#32
TLPD looks much sexier.
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snowbird
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
Germany2044 Posts
February 10 2008 23:17 GMT
#33
I went to sleep as soon as I finished this, just woke up and gotta go to language class now so I'll be back later. You guys could recommend forums I could post this on. I don't know that many Korean sites, I have accounts on Fomos, Fighterforum and DCInside. But I noticed that most of these Forums don't have that many hits and have a pretty low post count, so I don't know how much exposure a simple thread would get. Maybe we could consider e-mailing some of the Fomos/FighterForum staff guys? I dunno.
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Texas
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
Germany2388 Posts
February 10 2008 23:58 GMT
#34
gj
PoP
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
France15446 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-02-11 06:44:35
February 11 2008 06:44 GMT
#35
On February 11 2008 07:43 Dknight wrote:
As similar as the reports section may be between TLPD and YGDB, how else could you organize them that still shows the same information without it being similar?


Two of the "weird" things I've noted:
1. On some of their tables they use the exact same labels for the column headers; not only the same, but in English, while most of their stuff is in Korean (ex. their game list, although their league list for inst. have korean header labels) ;
2. Their "all" search displays the 5 first results of each category, with the full number of results for each on the left, and a link to the category-specific results on the right... just like we do.
3. etc.

These might be pure coïncidences but I'm quite skeptical. Not that I really care though, I'd even be quite flattered if they did get inspiration from the TLPD.

snowbird > I'll post here again as soon as I've finished compiling the list I was talking about. Thanks again.
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ZhenMiChan
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
Netherlands1181 Posts
February 11 2008 09:00 GMT
#36
wow thats really cool :D
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LosingID8
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
CA10828 Posts
February 11 2008 09:34 GMT
#37
good writeup
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snowbird
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
Germany2044 Posts
February 11 2008 11:01 GMT
#38
i just noticed that we have the problem that our VOD function is technically illegal, so i doubt we can advertise this on fomos or fighterforum, since these are commercial sites. i made a post on DCInside (site where koreans get their vods) and the thread got deleted some time during the day, not sure why, but i guess because they don't allow this kind of advertisement?
so hmm, seems like there is nothing much we can do especially since ygosu got their own database kind of thing.
@riotsnowbird
GTR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
51507 Posts
February 11 2008 11:08 GMT
#39
pgr21 is the best way to go, but you need to get in contact with someone like Waxangel who has access to post topics (I think).
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proA.June91
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
Vietnam445 Posts
February 11 2008 15:19 GMT
#40
interesting...i've change and change from ff windows to ff windows...i have no idea of korean so google helped me but after reading the translation, i know you did such a good work.

you'll put it on some korean site? that'd be great. GL ^^!
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Norway25 Posts
February 11 2008 18:16 GMT
#41
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United States5625 Posts
February 11 2008 19:39 GMT
#42
Does this explain the
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