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Boxer's APM?

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gwho
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United States632 Posts
February 04 2008 21:55 GMT
#1
i noticed that when they show player's screens, it's rather slow, compared to my first impressions. I hear Boxer's APM is ridiculous, and most players' seemed about 2/3 speed. anyone know boxer's APM? or Who has the highest, or where we can find average APM statistics for each player?

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Aesop
Profile Joined October 2007
Hungary11304 Posts
February 04 2008 21:57 GMT
#2
273 against Rekrul . But that might be different from regular games.
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.kaz
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
1963 Posts
February 04 2008 22:04 GMT
#3
I think NaDa is one of the fastest, somethings reaching 400 APM in games. Just search for NaDa FPVODs on youtube.
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NonY
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
8751 Posts
February 04 2008 22:08 GMT
#4
jaedong and julyzerg also have really high apm
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freelander
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
Hungary4707 Posts
February 04 2008 22:14 GMT
#5
fastest players are jaedong, nada, shine, casy I think..

boxer's apm is 280ish
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Pressure
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
7326 Posts
February 04 2008 22:17 GMT
#6
shine?
wtf

july,nada,and casy in that order are the fastest im pretty sure
JD is somewhere up there too
Bub
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
United States3518 Posts
February 04 2008 22:22 GMT
#7
As far as I've seen- Nada and Casy I'm not sure about the third and on. It seems terrans in general have a higher APM.. of course they're more dependant on speed.
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Equinox_kr
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
United States7395 Posts
February 04 2008 22:25 GMT
#8
Boxer is slooooooooooooooooooooooooooow

Nada is fastest, with Reach and July close behind.
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Try
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States1293 Posts
February 04 2008 22:26 GMT
#9
Personally, I thought zergs need the highest apm. Quite a few C terrans get by with 130, while most D+ zergs push 200.
HamerD
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United Kingdom1922 Posts
February 04 2008 22:28 GMT
#10
Sorry to divert but can I quickly ask are there any pros who go under 150 or even 100?
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starrek
Profile Joined December 2007
Japan164 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-02-04 22:29:02
February 04 2008 22:28 GMT
#11
G.s)KyO is faster than NaDa from reps on gg.net
:beer:
abandonallhope
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
Sweden563 Posts
February 04 2008 22:29 GMT
#12
Boxer has got ~250 most games I think.
Bub
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
United States3518 Posts
February 04 2008 22:30 GMT
#13
On February 05 2008 07:28 starrek wrote:
G.s)KyO is faster than NaDa from reps on gg.net


Yeah but he spams more.
XK ßubonic
starrek
Profile Joined December 2007
Japan164 Posts
February 04 2008 22:30 GMT
#14
kyo reaching over 500apm...
:beer:
starrek
Profile Joined December 2007
Japan164 Posts
February 04 2008 22:31 GMT
#15
On February 05 2008 07:30 Bub wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 05 2008 07:28 starrek wrote:
G.s)KyO is faster than NaDa from reps on gg.net


Yeah but he spams more.


he still has about same % hotkey i think
:beer:
Myrmidon
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
United States9452 Posts
February 04 2008 22:33 GMT
#16
On February 05 2008 07:28 HamerD wrote:
Sorry to divert but can I quickly ask are there any pros who go under 150 or even 100?


I think under 200 would be quite unusual; I've never heard of it. Low 200's is on the lower end for progamers, but those ones have a relatively high percentage of useful actions. All the super-high APM players like G.s)KyO have mass mass hotkey percentage, over what is useful.
miNi
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
Korea (South)2010 Posts
February 04 2008 22:37 GMT
#17
chojja is extremely fast also
knyttym
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
United States5797 Posts
February 04 2008 22:57 GMT
#18
Boxer is usually high 200s to low 300s. He is actually somewhat slower than your average pro terran which is mid 300s
NaDa and Casy are usually high 300s to mid 400s. I'd say 380-450. Last time I saw the apm comparison between the two was at Shinhan Masters where iirc NaDa was like 390 and Casy 450.
Bub
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
United States3518 Posts
February 04 2008 22:58 GMT
#19
sAviOr, during his period of dominance, was only doing around 220. Not too many actions needed when he's got perfect clicks.
XK ßubonic
Sigrun
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
United States1655 Posts
February 04 2008 23:11 GMT
#20
I believe for each race, the fastest would be Nada, Bisu, and Jaedong/July.
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LumberJack
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States3355 Posts
February 04 2008 23:18 GMT
#21
bisu is 375-400 average apm in his games...
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Reflex
Profile Joined March 2007
Canada703 Posts
February 04 2008 23:27 GMT
#22
On February 05 2008 08:11 SigrUn wrote:
I believe for each race, the fastest would be Nada, Bisu, and Jaedong/July.

I think this is right.
ShaLLoW[baY]
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Canada12499 Posts
February 04 2008 23:33 GMT
#23
On February 05 2008 08:27 Reflex] wrote:
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On February 05 2008 08:11 SigrUn wrote:
I believe for each race, the fastest would be Nada, Bisu, and Jaedong/July.

I think this is right.


Yeah, although I vaguely recall ELIZA, who retired recently, was a demonically high apm zerg?
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noobienoob
Profile Joined July 2007
United States1173 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-02-05 00:02:54
February 04 2008 23:44 GMT
#24
Correct me if I'm wrong but, although Boxer's APM is only mediocre compared to other progamers, it's his mouse hand's speed/accuracy is what's supposed to be insane. There's a reason why he's known for his unbelievable micro.
0xDEADBEEF
Profile Joined September 2007
Germany1235 Posts
February 04 2008 23:50 GMT
#25
SigrUn is right.
Boxer never was really fast, although years ago he was among the fastest ones, but the general level of skill was of course much lower than it is today.
Boxer sometimes gets really good APM peaks, though. I remember a short, old FPVOD of him where he got 600 APM during a short time.
On average though, I think even Savior is faster than him, and Savior is already quite slow with his 250-350.
Ancestral
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States3230 Posts
February 04 2008 23:59 GMT
#26
In very early replays it seems 170 was pretty much considered really fast.
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Titusmaster6
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States5937 Posts
February 05 2008 00:03 GMT
#27
In his recent osl match against Savior, Jaedong averaged around 450 and peaked at around 520. Insane.
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fusionsdf
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
Canada15390 Posts
February 05 2008 00:16 GMT
#28
In_dove is pretty fast too
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CaucasianAsian
Profile Blog Joined September 2005
Korea (South)11584 Posts
February 05 2008 00:24 GMT
#29
Tossgirl was pushing around 400 as well
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gwho
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United States632 Posts
February 05 2008 00:44 GMT
#30
what source do you guys get your numbers from? it would be helpful if personal stats included apm...
ShaLLoW[baY]
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Canada12499 Posts
February 05 2008 00:45 GMT
#31
On February 05 2008 09:44 gwho wrote:
what source do you guys get your numbers from? it would be helpful if personal stats included apm...


Mostly post game analysis + replays :p
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StripedBlueCrow
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States506 Posts
February 05 2008 01:33 GMT
#32
You guys are forgetting about Xellos... he's one of the fastest EVAR.
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CapO
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
United States1615 Posts
February 05 2008 03:19 GMT
#33
G.s)Kyo was like the fastest i think lol

also xellos is fast as well.
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fanatacist
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
10319 Posts
February 05 2008 04:04 GMT
#34
Wasn't there a July game where he average 414 and peaked 812?

Also, like others have said, Boxer is a lower APM player.
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zoLo
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States5896 Posts
February 05 2008 05:23 GMT
#35
wtf 812?! O_O
FieryBalrog
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States1381 Posts
February 05 2008 05:46 GMT
#36
Man, fuck apm
I will eat you alive
Texas
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
Germany2388 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-02-05 14:21:34
February 05 2008 14:09 GMT
#37
On February 05 2008 08:44 noobienoob wrote:
Correct me if I'm wrong but, although Boxer's APM is only mediocre compared to other progamers, it's his mouse hand's speed/accuracy is what's supposed to be insane. There's a reason why he's known for his unbelievable micro.


^ is right. he has very, very fast mouse speed, other terrans have higher apm due to hotkey selection.

pro_nt.junitoss used to be quite fast as well iirc
ATeddyBear
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Canada2843 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-02-05 14:53:39
February 05 2008 14:52 GMT
#38
On February 05 2008 13:04 fanatacist wrote:
Wasn't there a July game where he average 414 and peaked 812?

Also, like others have said, Boxer is a lower APM player.

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fanatacist
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
10319 Posts
February 05 2008 15:10 GMT
#39
On February 05 2008 14:23 zoLo wrote:
wtf 812?! O_O

Yea there is a video of the end-game stats on Youtube after a match where his peak is 812, you can try to find it.
Peace~
fanatacist
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
10319 Posts
February 05 2008 15:11 GMT
#40
On February 05 2008 09:44 gwho wrote:
what source do you guys get your numbers from? it would be helpful if personal stats included apm...

It'd be pretty useless in my opinion because APM doesn't matter that much, it's how effective you use the non-spam actions.
Peace~
Bub
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
United States3518 Posts
February 05 2008 15:45 GMT
#41
On February 06 2008 00:11 fanatacist wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 05 2008 09:44 gwho wrote:
what source do you guys get your numbers from? it would be helpful if personal stats included apm...

It'd be pretty useless in my opinion because APM doesn't matter that much, it's how effective you use the non-spam actions.


Yeah, exactly.
XK ßubonic
MrowaTheLegend
Profile Joined January 2008
Poland9 Posts
March 05 2008 14:32 GMT
#42
Nada & Casy & Inter MInd

as you can see Teran player has the biggest apm ;]
fanatacist
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
10319 Posts
March 05 2008 16:38 GMT
#43
It's the general policy of this forum to avoid bumping 1 month old topics with posts that don't bring anything that valuable to the topic. Just for future reference [: This is adhered to more strictly in the more serious sections of the forum.
Peace~
Falcynn
Profile Blog Joined June 2005
United States3597 Posts
March 05 2008 17:35 GMT
#44
On February 05 2008 07:28 HamerD wrote:
Sorry to divert but can I quickly ask are there any pros who go under 150 or even 100?
Below 150...I believe some foreign semi-pros are around that, but under 100...no never. I forgot who said it, but I believe Nada (or some other korean pro) said that you need to have at least 120apm in order to multitask efficiently in this game.
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