EPTSo who you do guys think, ever came close to the nearest flawless play againts Terran near Bisu's PvZ level? I mean Stork clearly has a flaw, Bisu deos as well, as well as Ra. I think Reach would be the best candidate, do you not agree?
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Thegreatbeyond
United States287 Posts
So who you do guys think, ever came close to the nearest flawless play againts Terran near Bisu's PvZ level? I mean Stork clearly has a flaw, Bisu deos as well, as well as Ra. I think Reach would be the best candidate, do you not agree? | ||
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LaLuSh
Sweden2358 Posts
Basically forced the Terrans to eventually abandon the 2 fac opening. | ||
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Tadzio
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Cambium
United States16368 Posts
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Plexa
Aotearoa39261 Posts
His use of arbtiers in the proscene started the arbtier trend in pvt which is now a major part of PvT. This is comparable to the 'bisu build' (whatever that is..) in its influence on the mu. Also, he just plays some damn sick games all the time. Gotta love him. On December 29 2007 16:23 LaLuSh wrote: iirc wasn't it Midas's innovation of the FD which gave terran a hugeee advantage in the PvT mu which was finally sorted out in So1 OSL thanks to pusan/anytime. I dont think terran were 'forced' to give it up, just that the fd was such an incredibly strong weapon that it surpassed the 2 fac in its usefulness. Garimto. Sure, it's a long time ago. But his increasingly macro oriented style paved the way for the future of PvT. And the fact that zealots were stronger back then probably contributed somewhat as well. Basically forced the Terrans to eventually abandon the 2 fac opening. | ||
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TheFoReveRwaR
United States10657 Posts
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RaGe
Belgium9950 Posts
On December 29 2007 16:43 Plexa wrote: Stork is the best pvt of all time imo (if bisu is the best pvz) His use of arbtiers in the proscene started the arbtier trend in pvt which is now a major part of PvT. This is comparable to the 'bisu build' (whatever that is..) in its influence on the mu. Also, he just plays some damn sick games all the time. Gotta love him. iirc wasn't it Midas's innovation of the FD which gave terran a hugeee advantage in the PvT mu which was finally sorted out in So1 OSL thanks to pusan/anytime. I dont think terran were 'forced' to give it up, just that the fd was such an incredibly strong weapon that it surpassed the 2 fac in its usefulness. Terrans gave up 2fac way before Midas even invented FD. 1fac siege expo was popular for a long long time | ||
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freelander
Hungary4707 Posts
one hand he standardized the arbiter usage years ago... other hand he standardized reaver+early carrier as a general strategy recently. | ||
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LaLuSh
Sweden2358 Posts
On December 29 2007 16:29 Cambium wrote: I thought Zealots were weaker back then with 80/80 instead of 60/100. You're right. I meant dragoons were stronger back then. 2 Fac pushes are mostly against goons only. | ||
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Cascade
Australia5405 Posts
On December 29 2007 16:09 Thegreatbeyond wrote: Even when Protoss's were doing good againts Terrans, Terrans still dominated the leagues hardcore. That's because zerg dominated protoss even more at that time. My thread on that mecanism.  I think I'd say stork as well. He is clearly not domination all matchups, and I wouldn't say that his PvT is perfect. It's only damn good.  | ||
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Thegreatbeyond
United States287 Posts
But again thats just my opinion. | ||
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