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ShaLLoW[baY]
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Canada12499 Posts
December 27 2007 19:57 GMT
#41
I'm pretty sure that you're not helping the situation LumberJack :p
Sera, if it makes you feel any better, just know that once you've defended the rush the Zerg is so fucked it's not even funny. Hell, I think this build has only worked once for me in all of my ZvP matches
ALEXISONFIRE ARE FUCKING BACK (sAviOr for life)
Seraphim
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
United States4467 Posts
December 27 2007 20:47 GMT
#42
Guys, don't mind Lumberjack. He's just an asshole that likes to troll these forums. I have no idea why he's not banned ~_~

Thanks guys, but my anger is out now. Thanks for letting me vent ^^
Hermes | Bisu[Shield] Fighting~!
Seraphim
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
United States4467 Posts
December 27 2007 20:48 GMT
#43
fanatacist, how many PvZ's do you win?

Oh and Lumberjack. At least I don't hack you fucking noob. Stop thinking you're gosu shit cause you're not.
Hermes | Bisu[Shield] Fighting~!
Aurious
Profile Blog Joined April 2006
Canada1772 Posts
December 27 2007 23:23 GMT
#44
I lay down an extra cannon if I see anymore than 6 lings. And I win a majority of my PvZ's at my level.
LumberJack
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States3355 Posts
December 28 2007 23:00 GMT
#45
so you lie about records, you falsely accuse me of hacking, and yet im the troll? How does that work? You're the one crying about 3 hatch ling when you only want to make 1 cannon, and im the bm idiot? Wow, look in the mirror kid, seriously
Man fears the darkness, and so he scrapes away at the edges of it with fire.
Caller
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Poland8075 Posts
December 29 2007 01:50 GMT
#46
3 hatch lings is actually a good counter to bisu build because it comes at just the right timing, right as the sair pops out. The moral of the story is, if you're going to FE, be ready for the consequences. This applies to everybody.

I think after watching Oversky > Bisu, people started speedling rushing.
Watch me fail at Paradox: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=397564
BluzMan
Profile Blog Joined April 2006
Russian Federation4235 Posts
December 29 2007 02:17 GMT
#47
On December 29 2007 08:00 LumberJack wrote:
so you lie about records, you falsely accuse me of hacking, and yet im the troll? How does that work? You're the one crying about 3 hatch ling when you only want to make 1 cannon, and im the bm idiot? Wow, look in the mirror kid, seriously


Yes you are. Get the fuck out please.
You want 20 good men, but you need a bad pussy.
Seraphim
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
United States4467 Posts
December 29 2007 03:21 GMT
#48
On December 29 2007 08:00 LumberJack wrote:
so you lie about records, you falsely accuse me of hacking, and yet im the troll? How does that work? You're the one crying about 3 hatch ling when you only want to make 1 cannon, and im the bm idiot? Wow, look in the mirror kid, seriously


Wow, at least I'm not 35 years old and PMSing over a video game. Get a life you retard.

Nice job making an ass out of yourself, though.
Hermes | Bisu[Shield] Fighting~!
LumberJack
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States3355 Posts
December 29 2007 03:57 GMT
#49
im 26? and how am i coming out to be an ass? Because i tell the truth? I dont lie about records or hack? is that why i'm an ass? sweet, ill take it. thanks yo~
Man fears the darkness, and so he scrapes away at the edges of it with fire.
Seraphim
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
United States4467 Posts
December 29 2007 08:37 GMT
#50
Lumberjack, keep in mind that every person on this site hates you. Have fun fag.
Hermes | Bisu[Shield] Fighting~!
Jonoman92
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
United States9110 Posts
December 29 2007 17:52 GMT
#51
I'm mad about this too. PvZ was my best MU on iccup, I was like 9-1 and my last few games i've died to all-in ling crap.

Then one game I 10/12 gated on gaia saw his 9 pool, and just walled up and teched. He comes at me with some 3 hatch ling all in ramp break and accuses m of map hack because I have 6 zlots...

He was incredulous that he gay shit got foiled... lol
fgsvsd
Profile Joined June 2007
Switzerland348 Posts
December 30 2007 02:39 GMT
#52
On December 29 2007 17:37 Seraphim wrote:
Lumberjack, keep in mind that every person on this site hates you. Have fun fag.

Wow, I just skimmed through this thread and you sound pretty sad.
What's with all the poisonous hate?


On December 27 2007 13:50 Polemarch wrote:
Take it as a sign that you need to brush up on your scouting, ramp micro, or FE defense. Your opponents are probably seeing weaknesses in your game and capitalizing on them. Adapt.

All there is to say about the OP.
OneOther
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States10774 Posts
December 30 2007 08:04 GMT
#53
On December 28 2007 02:55 LumberJack wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 27 2007 18:23 Seraphim wrote:
Lumberjack, get the fuck out of my blog.

Don't even start talking about people's off-races owning people's main. Need I mention OneOther's terran 36-0'ed your main?

Yeah.

Gtfo and stfu.


its actually 1-3, but thanks for lying about it again : ) Maybe ill host our games sometime? Cause i actually have the replays ;P


LumberJack you have never beaten my Terran

post rep , but you dont have it.
OneOther
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States10774 Posts
December 30 2007 08:22 GMT
#54
On December 29 2007 08:00 LumberJack wrote:
so you lie about records, you falsely accuse me of hacking, and yet im the troll? How does that work? You're the one crying about 3 hatch ling when you only want to make 1 cannon, and im the bm idiot? Wow, look in the mirror kid, seriously


oh the irony

lying about records? lol?
Saracen
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States5139 Posts
December 30 2007 08:27 GMT
#55
On December 27 2007 14:37 Seraphim wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 27 2007 14:16 Tadzio00 wrote:
On December 27 2007 14:04 Seraphim wrote:

I'm talking more about the 3 hatch speedling strat. But whatever.



are you FEing? I've lost more games than I've won with 3 hat speedling. I'm no expert, but I know what stops me. keep a probe alive somewhere near his base. If your 1st probe lives long enough to see him take drones off his gas, that's a good first clue. If you scout it, add a cannon or two and try your heart out to get an archon. Screw rushing corsair. If you don't scout it, keep a probe outside his choke and try to spot his ling count and/or see when they move out. Use building placement to protect your cannons. and use zealots to block off your choke, with cannon support, even if he breaks through you may be able to use probes to end the all-in.

and you might want to try proxy 9/9 sometime. I dunno what quality players you play against, but it works vs me with depressing frequency.


I use buildings to protect cannons, but for some reason it doesn't work. The probe outside choke is way too late. He'll be moving out with the lings to my base and even if I build cannons, it won't complete in time. I rarely build zealots, except one or two, which not at all help against the rush.

I FE every game by the way.


noyadont ^_^
OneOther
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States10774 Posts
December 30 2007 08:29 GMT
#56
PS
karma we will work on this together hardcore.
Seraphim
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
United States4467 Posts
January 05 2008 02:15 GMT
#57
hawt
Hermes | Bisu[Shield] Fighting~!
Seraphim
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
United States4467 Posts
January 05 2008 02:16 GMT
#58
On December 30 2007 17:27 Saracen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 27 2007 14:37 Seraphim wrote:
On December 27 2007 14:16 Tadzio00 wrote:
On December 27 2007 14:04 Seraphim wrote:

I'm talking more about the 3 hatch speedling strat. But whatever.



are you FEing? I've lost more games than I've won with 3 hat speedling. I'm no expert, but I know what stops me. keep a probe alive somewhere near his base. If your 1st probe lives long enough to see him take drones off his gas, that's a good first clue. If you scout it, add a cannon or two and try your heart out to get an archon. Screw rushing corsair. If you don't scout it, keep a probe outside his choke and try to spot his ling count and/or see when they move out. Use building placement to protect your cannons. and use zealots to block off your choke, with cannon support, even if he breaks through you may be able to use probes to end the all-in.

and you might want to try proxy 9/9 sometime. I dunno what quality players you play against, but it works vs me with depressing frequency.


I use buildings to protect cannons, but for some reason it doesn't work. The probe outside choke is way too late. He'll be moving out with the lings to my base and even if I build cannons, it won't complete in time. I rarely build zealots, except one or two, which not at all help against the rush.

I FE every game by the way.


noyadont ^_^


LOL

basically, before our game I played a million PvTs so I somehow thought it was PvT, and I realized just in time "OH PVZ CRAP"

So I could change my build to a 2 gate:/ I would've FE'ed if I remembered
Hermes | Bisu[Shield] Fighting~!
nAi.PrOtOsS
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
Canada784 Posts
January 05 2008 03:39 GMT
#59
For the most part i agree with u, so many stupid noobs just play one mu and do the same strat every fucking game. Who the fuck does fuckint 5 pools biggest waste of fucking time for the player playing it who the fuck cares if u win with it and if u lose with it who gives a shit either waste of time. Stupid noob cheesers need to go to hell.
Seraphim
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
United States4467 Posts
January 05 2008 04:10 GMT
#60
Word, brother
Hermes | Bisu[Shield] Fighting~!
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