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On September 25 2007 07:19 RebelHeart wrote:Show nested quote +On September 25 2007 07:00 xM(Z wrote:
you judgmental pricks. if that shit would to happen to you there's no way in hell you will just accept it.
fuck god
fuck atheism
fuck the grand scheme of things
is the people that made him suffer, people like you.
you vain fools. i hope you pay x10 for every lie you spewed, for every person you stepped on, you robbed from, you mocked, for every deceit, for every failed promise, for every dream you crushed, for every hope you shattered, for ever... Uhh, who are you referring to? FYI my uncle died of cancer last year, worked as a bus driver all his life. Christians don't just accept it we have to pray for them and do everything we can to help them find peace.
i covered you and your kin under the first fuck so don't worry.
but i don't understand your last sentence. i'll try a translation/adaptation: christians don't just accept that your uncle died of cancer; christians pray for him and do everything they can to help him find peace. ??
i don't get it.
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Cayman Islands24199 Posts
well well, multitude of people would be jumping on the guy as an example of a creature bent out of shape by capitalist society. or something of that sort.
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On September 25 2007 08:18 xM(Z wrote:Show nested quote +On September 25 2007 07:19 RebelHeart wrote:On September 25 2007 07:00 xM(Z wrote:
you judgmental pricks. if that shit would to happen to you there's no way in hell you will just accept it.
fuck god
fuck atheism
fuck the grand scheme of things
is the people that made him suffer, people like you.
you vain fools. i hope you pay x10 for every lie you spewed, for every person you stepped on, you robbed from, you mocked, for every deceit, for every failed promise, for every dream you crushed, for every hope you shattered, for ever... Uhh, who are you referring to? FYI my uncle died of cancer last year, worked as a bus driver all his life. Christians don't just accept it we have to pray for them and do everything we can to help them find peace. i covered you and your kin under the first fuck so don't worry. but i don't understand your last sentence. i'll try a translation/adaptation: christians don't just accept that your uncle died of cancer; christians pray for him and do everything they can to help him find peace. ?? i don't get it.
wtf Christians dont believe if we pray for someone he will go to heaven when he dies , i believe your confusing it with Catholicism
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Cayman Islands24199 Posts
nah, cancer is accepted, just that death and the whole thing is another narrative or whatnot it is called these days.
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On September 25 2007 08:13 TesisMech wrote:
Cpt.Obvious your basically blaming it all and cursing against someone you dont believe exists -_- so you either believe God exist or your straight-up confused/crazy
You don't understand at all. He is not "blaming" god.
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On September 25 2007 05:30 RebelHeart wrote:
I'm sorry to hear that. Does he believe in God? I don't think it's a good idea to not have faith when something bad happens, because the whole purpose of believing in God is to help you in the hard situations.
Are you fucking brainwashed or something?
"Oh, too bad he didn't have faith when he had cancer! He would've lived!"
Tsk tsk. Some people don't like the idea of blindly accepting in something that has not helped anybody ever..
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Sorry to hear about your friend. I don't know what to tell you, I'm not really sure what to think about death.
My best friend died a month ago at the age of 19, I've known him ever since I can remember but for some reason I didn't feel anything. I just became worried about his family. It's the only direct experience that I've had with death, I don't know why I reacted the way I did. After a while I became bothered by my reaction, but then I just thought that he wouldn't want me to suffer because of his death so I just decided that instead of being sad I would remember the good times I've had with him.
I don't know if telling you this helps, but it's all I really know on the subject.
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My intention was not to bring religion as an organisation into this, I never even mentioned whether he was religious or not, the fact of the matter is, if things like cancer, where we can do nothing to foresee and in most cases nothing to do to prevent or stop can happen, don't you stop for a moment and think why? Why is this happening, what is the reason behind this, if the person believes in an afterlife they will go there anyway, why would you have to take them earlier than their natural body clock says its time.
There is so much shit going on in the world, if there is a god why doesn't he do something good for once in the history of mankind to warrant even a belief in him.
By the way, whoever said if he isn't even Christian why expect anyway.. wow. So yeah, Christians don't suffer in their lives, ever.
What if he is Jewish or Muslim or Catholic? Does he deserve less of an answer as to why this is all happening?
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there IS a CURE for cancer!!! LAETRILE! VITAMIN B17! selectively targets cancer cells to destroy them. Cancer is not a death sentence anymore, in fact, there has been a cure for it long ago. But American mainstream medicine will not have it. Thousands actually have to leave the US to other countries to get the treatment.
You may be skeptical, but if you're friend is worth anything to you, you might want to at least lend your ear to those hollering in the background claiming they have a cure.
Some resources:
1) " http://home.bluegrass.net/~jclark/b17_dosage.htm " easy reading and lots of info you can learn about cancer cures and what cancer actually is. *this site is not a blabber-on about how it's hopeless, and that we can do something, but you're eventually going to die" kind of site. Cancer cannot survive without lots of sugar, and an alkaline blood pH. Most people with illnesses, even common cold have low blood pH. thats one reason why soda and such is bad for you - it lowers your blood pH.
2) drfuhrman.com - nutritional therapist that completely cures diabetes. I recall that he has something on cancer as well
3) the book "World Without Cancer" - explains everything from the mechanisms to the politics of Vitamin b17 / Laetrile / natural cures.
I believe your friend can indeed get better without chemo worsening his body, and killing him even earlier. I wish the best for your friend, his family and you. But it's up to you to tell him there is a cure if he's ever going to get better.
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United States22883 Posts
I'm not sure what's worse - bumping an old and terrible blog or trying to peddle bullshit pseudoscience for medicine.
http://cancer.ucsd.edu/Outreach/PublicEducation/CAMs/laetrile.asp
But why trust a university or the NIH? I'm sure the good folks at alternativecancer.us are much more objective and accurate. What's that? The whole site is sponsored by a Laetrile producer who wants to sell it to you for $16 a day?!? And by "leave the US to other countries" you mean go to Mexico, because that's the only place the crackpot medicine can be produced?!?
The drug companies do dirty things to take advantage of patents and ban cheaper, generic versions, but if something actually works they find a way to make money off of it. Laetrile is not one of those things.
It is believed that the active anticancer ingredient in laetrile is cyanide
Laetrile has shown little anticancer effect in laboratory studies, animal studies, or human studies
The side effects of laetrile are like the symptoms of cyanide poisoning
Sounds awesome!
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Calgary26003 Posts
This is like the guy on TV who claims some root in the rainforest will cure diabetes. OH WOW, MY PANCREAS JUST GOT REBOOTED FROM THIS ROOT THANKS KEVIN TREDEAU.
Edit: ololol I just read point #2 and it's about curing Diabetes. How ironic.
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Actually, I've done a decent amount of reading on alternative medicine, and everything I've read does seem to indicate that keeping your body alkaline (high pH), avoiding sugar, and eating a very healthy diet of raw vegan food can do much to help cancer.
It makes a good bit of sense to me, given that cancer rates keep rising as people deviate further and further from healthy lifestyles. A healthy lifestyle should include good fresh organic food (raw preferably!), lots of exercise, and avoidance of toxins and unhealthy foods/drugs (processed sugar, trans fats, various toxic food additives such as aspartame and MSG.)
Everything sounds crazy until it is accepted into the mainstream. Gallileo sounded crazy at one time, now we take his ideas for granted and laugh at people who contradict what he discovered.
Still, I don't think there is any reason to pay 16 bucks a day for a cancer cure, Lol.
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And, regarding the OP, I think it is really pretty low to use this story as a way to attack Christianity. Way out of line, and likewise with all the folks who jumped on the bandwagon.
As to the question in the title of the blog, "Why devote your life to work?" I say it depends. If you love your work, then love is the "why."
On the other hand, I think the vast majority of people do not love their work, and it is indeed a very sad thing that people devote their lives, or at least sacrifice much of their lives, to things they do not really care for (or often actively despise.) Certainly in this case it is better to choose something other than work. This very idea was the inspiration for my recent blog entitled "Relax."
Sad to waste life in unpleasant work, only to realize near death that you never lived.
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... Why is anyone posting in this anymore.
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United States22883 Posts
On February 06 2008 12:23 nA.Inky wrote:
Actually, I've done a decent amount of reading on alternative medicine, and everything I've read does seem to indicate that keeping your body alkaline (high pH), avoiding sugar, and eating a very healthy diet of raw vegan food can do much to help cancer.
It makes a good bit of sense to me, given that cancer rates keep rising as people deviate further and further from healthy lifestyles. A healthy lifestyle should include good fresh organic food (raw preferably!), lots of exercise, and avoidance of toxins and unhealthy foods/drugs (processed sugar, trans fats, various toxic food additives such as aspartame and MSG.)
Everything sounds crazy until it is accepted into the mainstream. Gallileo sounded crazy at one time, now we take his ideas for granted and laugh at people who contradict what he discovered.
Still, I don't think there is any reason to pay 16 bucks a day for a cancer cure, Lol.
Right, doing those things in your middle paragraph will go a long way to keeping yourself healthy and less likely to develop cancer and many other diseases, besides genetic problems. But most of those medicines, especially the homeopathic kind, are sold as "wonder drugs" that can somehow undo all the mistakes you've committed in your life. There are some natural cancer remedies that scientists are exploring such as capsaicin, but selling undeveloped and unproven sugar (or cyanide in this case) pills as "life saving" medicine is even less ethical than what the big drug companies do.
Galileo wasn't refuted upon on rigorous testing and meticulous peer review.
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That is why I like living in Canada; cancer treatment is health care, and it's free. There is no reason why you should pay for that. We might have higher taxes, but the poor saps who wind up with needing bypass surgeries and such get fucked over in the end.
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nm, I realized this is an old bump.
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